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MrDragon
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posted November 11, 2010 10:02 PM |
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Edited by MrDragon at 22:03, 11 Nov 2010.
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Yeah I think nobody here HATES the old system, but the new system sounds like it will be an improvement.
Back on topic: with any luck we'll be able to put this thread to rest before the end of the month.
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DarkLord
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posted November 11, 2010 10:51 PM |
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Yeah I think nobody here HATES the old system, but the new system sounds like it will be an improvement.
I love the idea of new system, and yes i shall agree that it is an improvement. Going on and on with rebuild HoMM3 system is not a best decision. Thumbs up  for core/elite/champion's , i will say it's tactical improvement!!!
Back on topic: with any luck we'll be able to put this thread to rest before the end of the month.
You are soo right MrDragon.. just can not wait for this day!!!
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FuntimeManchop
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posted November 16, 2010 12:58 AM |
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Since Haven is defensive and Inferno is offensive, it makes me think that Necomancer's drawn out tactic will have an opposite also. The 4th or 5th faction could be one whos strength is quick battles.
I'm thinking this is either Dungeon coming out of the darkness quickly to assassinate you, the Rangers or the water serpent faction is a real quick one.
4th faction is probibly either Dungeon or 'Forest'.
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DarkLord
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posted November 19, 2010 12:24 PM |
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Still can not imagine HoMM without Academy.. It's kind of wrong.. It's like denying the very basics of Heroes series..
Even though i am NOT a fan of Academy, there SHOULD be Mages with their Titans... i would say it's a Must!!!
p.s. but could be Sylvan as well ... lol
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Nelgirith
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posted November 19, 2010 12:56 PM |
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Basic ? Academy didn't exist in Heroes 1! Dungeon, Stronghold and Rampart/Sylvan are more basic than Academy 
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MrDragon
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posted November 19, 2010 01:19 PM |
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Since Haven is defensive and Inferno is offensive, it makes me think that Necomancer's drawn out tactic will have an opposite also. The 4th or 5th faction could be one whos strength is quick battles.
I'm thinking this is either Dungeon coming out of the darkness quickly to assassinate you, the Rangers or the water serpent faction is a real quick one.
4th faction is probibly either Dungeon or 'Forest'.
I'd say the faction that most benefits from rushing in headfirst and being as aggresive as possible, trying to end it before all the other faction's nasty magical effects start stacking up and rolling in would be Stronghold.
Barbarians benefit most from quick and decisive battles, having the least supernatural effects to fall back on traditionally.
Also now that Haven's so spiritual in nature and Inferno seems to have turned it's magic swinging up a few notches, Stronghold seems to compliment them best.
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FuntimeManchop
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posted November 19, 2010 06:46 PM |
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I apologize if any heroes have seen this post before. But it belongs in this 4th faction prediction thread.
Quote: All schools will be accessible. Each faction will favor a specific Magic school among the others.
Light, Darkness, Earth, Fire, Air, Water and Primordial.
If Haven is Light, Necropolis is Darkness and Inferno is Fire, that leaves the other two factions with Earth, Air, Water or Primordial style/theme.
If the 5th faction is the water serpents, that rules out Water, so then the 4th faction is is either Earth, Air or Primordial.
Earth: Elves? 
Air: Wizards? 
Primordial: H3 Fortress??? OH GOD PLEASE 
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xerox
Promising
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posted November 19, 2010 10:15 PM |
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I am guessing (with the factions I think will appear in H6)
Light: Haven
Dark: Necropolis
Fire: Inferno
Earth: Sylvan
Water: Naga
Perhaps Academy could be an expansion town but they would fit with both primordial and air magic. Dragon knights also come to mind when we think about Primordial magic.
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DarkLord
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posted November 20, 2010 11:48 AM |
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I am guessing (with the factions I think will appear in H6)
Light: Haven
Dark: Necropolis
Fire: Inferno
Earth: Sylvan
Water: Naga
Perhaps Academy could be an expansion town but they would fit with both primordial and air magic. Dragon knights also come to mind when we think about Primordial magic.
That's a good one !!! looks like True !!! Hard to disagree!!!
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Danny
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posted November 20, 2010 12:17 PM |
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I apologize if any heroes have seen this post before. But it belongs in this 4th faction prediction thread.
Quote: All schools will be accessible. Each faction will favor a specific Magic school among the others.
Light, Darkness, Earth, Fire, Air, Water and Primordial.
If Haven is Light, Necropolis is Darkness and Inferno is Fire, that leaves the other two factions with Earth, Air, Water or Primordial style/theme.
If the 5th faction is the water serpents, that rules out Water, so then the 4th faction is is either Earth, Air or Primordial.
Earth: Elves?
Air: Wizards?
Primordial: H3 Fortress??? OH GOD PLEASE
Is a non-magic faction completely ruled out though? And as it had already been discussed, technically Fire is the Dwarf faction.
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blizz
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posted November 20, 2010 01:05 PM |
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Quote:
Quote:
I apologize if any heroes have seen this post before. But it belongs in this 4th faction prediction thread.
Quote: All schools will be accessible. Each faction will favor a specific Magic school among the others.
Light, Darkness, Earth, Fire, Air, Water and Primordial.
If Haven is Light, Necropolis is Darkness and Inferno is Fire, that leaves the other two factions with Earth, Air, Water or Primordial style/theme.
If the 5th faction is the water serpents, that rules out Water, so then the 4th faction is is either Earth, Air or Primordial.
Earth: Elves?
Air: Wizards?
Primordial: H3 Fortress??? OH GOD PLEASE
Is a non-magic faction completely ruled out though? And as it had already been discussed, technically Fire is the Dwarf faction.
well yes demons worship urgash primordial dragon of Chaos and dwarfs worship arkath elemental dragon of fire.
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mytheroes
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posted November 20, 2010 01:19 PM |
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What about Dungeon? Everybody seems to forget about them. Either Darkness or Primordial maybe but in H5 they're master of the elementals (sort of)so maybe they don't favor one particular school?
Also, Academy as a wizard faction seems kinda weird if they favor a particular school of magic. I mean, that's basically the choice of the individual wizard, isn't it?
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Nelgirith
Promising
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posted November 20, 2010 01:25 PM |
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There are 3 factions that can't really be affiliated to schools.
Academy : They don't worship any dragon thus they can't be affiliated to any elemental school. I tend to think that if Academy appears in the game, they won't have one favored school, but all of them.
Necropolis : they worship Asha which is one of the Primordial dragons (with Urgash). It would make sense that Necropolis is affiliated with Dark Magic, but Dark Magic belongs to Malassa, the goddess of the Faceless (and future dark elves).
Inferno : Same as Necropolis, except that Inferno are Urgash's offsprings. Also Fire Magic belongs to Arkath, the god of the dwarves.
Here's my opinion :
Primordial : Inferno - Necropolis
Light : Haven
Dark : Faceless/Dark Elves
Water : Nagas
Earth : Sylvan Elves
Fire : Dwarves
No school : Orcs / Beastmen
Air : Free Cities ? Dragon-Knights ?
We know Ylath created mankind and that he was worshipped by humans before some of them turned towards Elrath, but another human faction might be boring.
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Elvin
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posted November 20, 2010 01:41 PM |
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Just because there are elemental 'Gods' it doesn't mean that those who don't worship them cannot favour the specific magic. That would not only make little sense but also change heroes as we know it.
Also I see no reason why two towns would be unable to favour the same element except maybe criticism for lack of variety But still remember that factions have some unique spells apart from the general spells of the school. For instance a dwarf fire specialization would likely be different to a demon fire specialization despite having some common ground.
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mytheroes
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posted November 20, 2010 02:04 PM |
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Yea, but the WHOLE Academy, a wizard faction, favoring a specific school of magic? I can't see that happening.
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Nelgirith
Promising
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posted November 20, 2010 02:21 PM |
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But still remember that factions have some unique spells apart from the general spells of the school. For instance a dwarf fire specialization would likely be different to a demon fire specialization despite having some common ground.
That sounds interesting enough ! I was hoping for something like this but thought it might be a tad overcomplicated
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FuntimeManchop
Adventuring Hero
Adventure!
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posted November 20, 2010 06:46 PM |
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Why is everyone talking about the Dwarf faction??? its like the joke faction. So uncreative and rediculous! I would prefer the return of Infernopolis to Dwarves again! I hated them. I would always strive to destroy them when playing.
What did they have?
Dwarf with shield.
Dwarf with spears.
Dwarf riding a bear.
Dwarf with knuckledusters.
Dwarf with magical septer.
GIANT DWARF.
1. lol
2. NO
Inferno will have Fire magic. Demons come from Hell, where there is a lot of heat and fire. Most of the demons are on fire anyway, so they will have Fire magic, not dwarves, who will not be returning and if they do, should have Earth magic, as dwarves are underground earthy creatures.
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bludgeon
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posted November 20, 2010 07:06 PM |
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Edited by bludgeon at 19:07, 20 Nov 2010.
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Dwarves could totally work, if only more though was put into developing them than in H5. I really really hope dwarves are remade for H6 in an expansion or content patch or DLC. Remade with some fresh ideas they desperately need.
For example, shift focus from dwarves to mountain folk, and dwarves will be only a part of the faction. A coalition of races that protect their mountains from some threat.
Core - dwarf runesmith, dwarf berserker, gargoyle
Elite - valkyrie, dwarf spirit-caller, some sort of mountain beast (for example basilisk)
Champion - firbolg
See? Only 3 dwarves, gargoyle stolen from academy (which doesn't need two golem-like creatures), 2-3 totally new units. Dragon gone, as is the case with other H6 towns. Defenders, harpooners, bear riders and priests gone.
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xerox
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
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posted November 20, 2010 07:46 PM |
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Yes, I would love to see a Dwarf faction based on Norse mythology such as:
Core: Berserker, Ulfsark, Worg
Elite: Valkyrie, Einherjar, Troll
Champion: Giant (they do not need to be similar to Titans at all, they can be completly different)
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Over himself, over his own
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radar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Castle/Haven player
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posted November 20, 2010 07:57 PM |
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Ulfsark attacks Ejnhernars. Ejnhernars get xqwygzvded!
I wouldn't welcome that with open arms. I've thought that Rakshasa is a dumb enough name already.
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