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salubri
salubri


Adventuring Hero
posted May 13, 2013 08:02 PM

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Look in the same article:
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Look what they've done to poor Nagas, painful to look at them...
Adding another level 1 shooter might do a bit of disbalance to the game.
Rockets, Tanks and Lasers in HOMM - even more weird than that muppet town idea !
Killing with an axe or a sword is one thing, but killing with rockets and guns increases HOMM3's violence rating.
Beast vs Magic and now vs Technology - adds something new to the game, on another side HOMM3 is no longer a fantasy game.
In HOMM3 there are 3 good towns, 3 bad towns and 2 neutral towns. FORGE is a baddie's town, that will mean balance will be broken. Technology was blaimed on some "weapon-producing-artifact", how the heck such thing got there!? Alien invasion would sound more convincing to me... Somebody's got a really bad imagination
A very reliable source, yes Author of this article did not even know that kreegans — this is exactly the alien invasion.


Who is this man? People who don't know M&M history have no right to complain. Ah but i want to reply to his post so much

Look what they've done to poor Nagas, painful to look at them...
Kastore thought: Nagas are powerfull creatures summoned from another world so why don't i summon them and do a little upgrade with my technology.

Adding another level 1 shooter might do a bit of disbalance to the game.
Tower town has 3 shooters so? My favorite town by the way

Rockets, Tanks and Lasers in HOMM - even more weird than that muppet town idea !
Play M&M 1-9 then we will talk.

Killing with an axe or a sword is one thing, but killing with rockets and guns increases HOMM3's violence rating.
Violence = Good It's like that wonderfull screen in Resident Evil: This game contains scenes of violence and gore. Translation: Good game

Beast vs Magic and now vs Technology - adds something new to the game, on another side HOMM3 is no longer a fantasy game.
Go play King's Bounty

In HOMM3 there are 3 good towns, 3 bad towns and 2 neutral towns. FORGE is a baddie's town, that will mean balance will be broken.
So in future there will be one more good town. Welcome back to the balance.

Technology was blaimed on some "weapon-producing-artifact", how the heck such thing got there!?
It was there before MM 1 or HOMM 1 started. So called Time of Wonders.
When the Kreegans weren't... long story.

Alien invasion would sound more convincing to me... Somebody's got a really bad imagination
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY6tCnu-1Do

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blueskirt
blueskirt


Adventuring Hero
posted May 13, 2013 09:15 PM
Edited by blueskirt at 21:21, 13 May 2013.

I suggest next time you announce a creature, don't specify its power level, nor if it replaces any other creature in the Forge line up, nor whether it's intended to be in the Forge line up or as an alternative creature or as a neutral creature, that will save you much nitpicky criticism.

I personally see no inconsistency with the Sentry Droid and the Forge, Heroes of Might and Magic III or the Might and Magic universe, although I'd love to know what will happens to the Jump Troopers.

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Warmonger
Warmonger


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posted May 13, 2013 09:30 PM

Oh snow, what the snow is this crap?

Utterly dissapointed.
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Macron1
Macron1


Supreme Hero
posted May 13, 2013 10:25 PM

And this droid rotating will shake nerves when looking at the screen.
Maybe better make him not rotating, but levitating?
And some projector inspecting earth will be cool.

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nerevar
nerevar


Adventuring Hero
posted May 13, 2013 11:26 PM

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I suggest next time you announce a creature, don't specify its power level, nor if it replaces any other creature in the Forge line up, nor whether it's intended to be in the Forge line up or as an alternative creature or as a neutral creature, that will save you much nitpicky criticism.

I'd say that would simply make all the criticism come when the new version is released and people find out about the changes.

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I personally see no inconsistency with the Sentry Droid and the Forge, Heroes of Might and Magic III or the Might and Magic universe, although I'd love to know what will happens to the Jump Troopers.

The biggest problem isn't inconsistency but the fact most think the droid simply doesn't fit the Forge lineup.

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Ivan
Ivan


Known Hero
posted May 13, 2013 11:26 PM
Edited by Ivan at 11:35, 14 May 2013.

Here's a little geographical problem: the M&M VI droids can be found only in the Tomb of VARN and the Control Center, which are located on Enroth. Kastore becomes king of Deyja which has no sea access whatsoever (the large body of water in the M&M VII map is a lake between Deyja and AvLee) and his invasion is directed at Erathia. How in the world could he get scraps of M&M VI droids with no sea access from a continent that is several weeks of sea travel to the North-West?

Also, if I'm getting this right, someone is actually using the word "technik" (with a "k", no less) in the english version? What's the problem with "technician"? Back to my point about changing things for no apparent reason...

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Hobbit
Hobbit


Supreme Hero
posted May 13, 2013 11:30 PM

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someone is actually using the word "technik" (with a "k", no less) in the english version?

AFAIK - nope.
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Vade_Parvis
Vade_Parvis


Known Hero
posted May 14, 2013 07:07 AM

Quote:
Here's a little geographical problem: the M&M VI droids can be found only in the Tomb of VARN and the Control Center, which are located on Enroth. Kastore becomes king of Deyja which has no sea access whatsoever (the large body of water in the M&M VII map is a lake between Deyja and AvLee) and his invasion is directed at Erathia. How in the world could he get scraps of M&M VI droids with no sea access from a continent that is several weeks of sea travel to the North-South?
Kastore and co. had found droids during archeological excavations around Heavenly Forge. And since this Heavenly Forge initially was belonged to the enrothian VARN — it was protected by the same model of security droids as that was found in the Tomb of VARN.

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Macron1
Macron1


Supreme Hero
posted May 14, 2013 08:05 AM


Quote:
Quote:
someone is actually using the word "technik" (with a "k", no less) in the english version?

AFAIK - nope.


In version 0.4 there is still "k":
"{
"technik" :
{
"name" : "Technik"
},
"general" :
{
"name" : "General"
}
}
"

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Hobbit
Hobbit


Supreme Hero
posted May 14, 2013 11:56 AM

AFAIK they were supposed to be Polish names. Don't know why it's General, not Genera³, though.

It's not the final version anyway.
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Drakon-Deus
Drakon-Deus


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Qapla'
posted May 14, 2013 04:17 PM

How's the project going?
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Vade_Parvis
Vade_Parvis


Known Hero
posted May 14, 2013 05:32 PM

Which one?

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Hobbit
Hobbit


Supreme Hero
posted May 14, 2013 08:08 PM
Edited by Hobbit at 21:58, 14 May 2013.

After revealing Sentry Droid we, Forge Team of Poles, were stunned that minotaurs weren't official. After such information, we decided to change this unit for something different as well. After some thoughts we came up with Candle Creeper!



Candle Creepers could be met in Might and Magic 3. While Kastore with friends were taking off from Terra, these creatures went to Lincoln's board in secret and travelled all the way to Enroth. Kastore acknowledged their existence, but instead of killing he left them alone multiplying. While reproducing Heavenly Forge he added some technological stuff to these creatures and joined them to his army. Now Candle Creepers, creeping along with Forge forces, are causing fear in the whole Antagarich...
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OxFEA
OxFEA


Promising
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feanor on DF2.ru
posted May 14, 2013 09:25 PM

PSSSSSSSSSSST

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DarkDXZ
DarkDXZ


Known Hero
Haiku sensei
posted May 14, 2013 10:07 PM

Literally the last thing I'd expect to see in the Forge.
But anyways, I've sent Paul Romero another e-mail (just a reminder if anything).
He said he'd answer the rest of the question later that week, which was like 2 months ago by now. So I figured it'd be a good (or at least NOT bad) of an idea to remind him kindly about this.


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RustyEy3
RustyEy3


Hired Hero
posted May 15, 2013 07:47 AM

Candle Creeper? Wow Drone is much better option than that.
Well please dont remove Jump Troopers and replace them with those. Name really fits they are creepy and candles but I dont want to see these abominations.

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Trith
Trith


Adventuring Hero
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posted May 15, 2013 08:10 AM

Well, for me candle creepers are much better for an unit than drones presented earlier, with no doubt.

Candle follow most of graphical "patterns/rules" of H3 units where drone is an example of shameless breaking said "rules".

Creeper is humanoid/beast, as every regular unit in H3. Drone could be mistaken with war machine.
Possible animation can actually resemble whatever it's supposed to mean (like defense and attacking animations) can differ thanks to parts of creature (hands) which can perform movements associated with specific actions. Drone at its best can change rotation speed and use different types of laser/force field. Sorry but I don't see what else it could do to make its attack look different from defending.
Both Creeper and Drone are based on what we could find in other MM games, so I don't see how creeper is supposed to be worse than drone.
And who forbids some humor in H3? Candle creeper may not be the most serious of units, but imps have big noses and pit lords like to scratch their naked buttcheeks.

Thank you for your attention.

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solitaire345
solitaire345


Promising
Famous Hero
posted May 15, 2013 08:47 AM

Whoa.
While candle creepers don't look like they are Forge-related, I think they would look great as some neutral creatures on swamp/dungeon (I don't know much lore though..)
The droids indeed look neat and I don't really understand why some of you say that an all-technical unit would not fit a hi-tech town.
Lightning/sparks for attacking, forcefield for defending, laser beam for shooting (if it's a shooter) and that's it. I doubt that spherical forcefield (defending) would look very similar to sparks or lightning..

Also about the weak-looking part: I think they are actually meant to look weak. The first time I encountered them in MM6 (they were guardians of some dungeon IIRC) I was quickly eradicated, because they looked weak. And that's what aggressive defense means: getting your enemy close to you to believe they can kill you and then destroying him

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Storm-Giant
Storm-Giant


Responsible
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posted May 15, 2013 08:59 AM

Scare them all!  
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Ivan
Ivan


Known Hero
posted May 15, 2013 10:41 AM

Ah, the Candle Creeper from the old M&Ms, that was very funny, Hobbit By the way, guys, it's obviosly a joke meant to parody the spiked orbs, why is everyone acting like it's really being added?

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