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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted October 12, 2013 05:09 PM |
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U mad. If I knew my opponent's hand I wouldn't lose half my games.
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RMZ1989
Supreme Hero
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posted October 12, 2013 08:22 PM |
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RedEmperor30 said:
RMZ1989 said:
The_Polyglot said:
I say if one devotes such resources to maybe get a glimpse at my deck composition WHILE planning his turns so he doesn't run out of time, good for him!
It is still considered cheating, and he knows your cards while you don't know his, he is in advantage already with his planning. If you aren't playing swiss, you have enough time for everything.
Btw, currently testing Nergal slowpoke(just for testing, I hate these kind of decks), and it is stupidly powerful even without single one Throne of Renewal, I don't have any. I feel pathetic, people can't do anything, they just sit there and watch you recycle all your important spells, fortunes and paos, while you poke them... slowly...
a nergal slowpoke, the carcass of the red emperor drags itself from beneath a muddy rock, ears pricked up, you said a neragl slowpoke... show me my precioussssss... plz 
Wait, you are an 1500 player, it isn't possible for you to not know what Nergal slowpoke is... or is it? O.o
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Give a man a mask, and he'll
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RedEmperor30
Famous Hero
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posted October 12, 2013 09:46 PM |
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i may have played against it once in my journey - or it never left much of an impression on my deck builds lol
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RMZ1989
Supreme Hero
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posted October 12, 2013 10:01 PM |
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Edited by RMZ1989 at 22:03, 12 Oct 2013.
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http://www.mmdoc.net/show_deck/11855/
http://www.mmdoc.net/show_deck/14147/
Some variations.
Why is it so strong and what is different from Dhamiria? Well, the fact that you can recycle anything you want and that you need. Few games I was with just 1 Stone Shield/Altar of Shadows, and didn't get any in my drawing phase, but I just recycled that single one until I got more.
You can use Wasteland up to 8 times, or even worse, Stone Shield up to 12 times.
I am playing it without Throne of Renewal(don't have any) and I have solid winning streak at my level for now, still didn't lose a game with it. Some of the versions go with From Whom the Bell Tolls, because it is cheaper way to wipe the board, and it is wiped in next turn, so you have all your resources.
EDIT: Just took a closer look at second version by PlineQ, and he has no Wastelands, don't know why, they are the key to this deck.
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Give a man a mask, and he'll
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DoubleDeck
Promising
Legendary Hero
Look into my eyes...
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posted October 13, 2013 08:19 AM |
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Elvin said:
U mad. If I knew my opponent's hand I wouldn't lose half my games.
I know, but the thing is one can generally know the vibe on the stat build of opponent and what spells schools their hero can use...like if has fire and going level 4 magic, don't place troops adjascent to each other, common sense.
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Hermes
Famous Hero
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posted October 13, 2013 12:16 PM |
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Have been playing Hearthstone for a week now, thought I wouldn't like it but damn its good.. Not perfect but makes some of the DoC flaws clear...
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NamelessOrder
Famous Hero
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posted October 13, 2013 01:57 PM |
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So decided to let Cassandra retire and started playing Sandal. My "final" version of the deck: http://www.momcards.fr/fr/deck/view/2882.html#main -> i think this might be the strongest haven deck right now and is definitely one of the best decks vs Ammar.
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Today i played my first jackpot with Sandal and i have to say i'm very... disappointed. I lost many games, i couldn't reach 200 TELO. Finally about an hour before the end of the tournament i switch to Cassa and started a chase against others and time. I manage to get around 150 points (i think i lost only 1-2 games out of 7-9) in an hour; yeah im kinda bragging but the point is that:
- switching to a new deck is hard
- it takes time to learn a new deck
- and i shouldn't think that other decks are easier and i should just switch to get better results.
I'm writing it b/c it wasn't obvious for me and maybe it's not obvious for others.
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Have been playing Hearthstone for a week now, thought I wouldn't like it but damn its good.. Not perfect but makes some of the DoC flaws clear...
Indeed. I think there is a problem with M&M team's output (= games like H6). I'm not blaming anybody, it might be that they are just underfunded.
One of the problem is that they are not treating is a online game - no hot fixes, balance patches or patches in general are relatively rare.
I haven't played Hearthstone, just watched it but as far as i understand one draws a card at the end of a turn - this is great when you cannot act during your opponent turn. You can think of your strategy when your opponent is playing.
Which flaws are you referring to exactly.
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Uplay: ZergRusher | H6: Thoughts on duels | DoC: Cassa
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted October 13, 2013 02:09 PM |
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Thank for the deck Nameless I was looking for a Cass deck and you looks good.
But I would drop the Heartstone topi here.. maybe make a new for it..
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Hermes
Famous Hero
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posted October 13, 2013 03:28 PM |
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Nameless, there are many things I like about Hearthstone - faster pace, direct hero attacks, arena mode(in which you make a deck from random cards and play until you lose three times for prizes), etc. But this is what I feel about DoC after playing:
1. DoC is very complex and tactical game, and I love this complexity. However for me personally there are way too much removal in the game, and creature/buffing decks are weak.
2. Hearthstone is much better funded. There are distinct animations for all spells and effects, voiceovers for attacks/deployment etc and it does add something to the game(although no practical advantages)
3. About card draw, you do draw in the beginning of you turn, and extra draw powers/cards ar far and between. So the number of cards you have is really important.
4. But most importantly for me, in HS classes feel really.. Different? Look at Nergal slowpoke.just how many real necro cards ar in there? 5-6? I'm so sick of almost every deck in DoC using paos, and to a lesser extent DA's. I actually refuse to use them(and I hav four of each!). In HS every class actually uses its native abilities and mechanics, and unique neutrals are nowhere near as important as paos in DoC..
Saying this, I still consider DoC to be a better game, partially due to it being the part of M&M universe, which in my opinion is way better then Warcraft lore post WoW..
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DoubleDeck
Promising
Legendary Hero
Look into my eyes...
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posted October 13, 2013 06:07 PM |
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...and Hearthstone has kiddies graphics...like clash of heroes 
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted October 13, 2013 07:54 PM |
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As a person who has never been interested in Card Games, I sometimes open streams of people like Totalbiscuit when they are streaming Hearthstone and I enjoy them. The few times I tried to watch DoC I got bored
(There's a HearthStone thread in the OGET, in case you want to talk about just HS there )
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted October 14, 2013 08:12 AM |
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Was that because the game was not easy to follow?
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DoubleDeck
Promising
Legendary Hero
Look into my eyes...
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posted October 14, 2013 08:23 AM |
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Lol - Elvin.
Back to DoC now:
Infernal pit - I looked in the pit this morning and saw an Archlich. Wow! A green card from the base set! Would be nice if they had more FW cards in the pit now together with tossing in rare/epics.
I think the pit should only have rare/epics now, as no one would sacrifice cards anymore for lesser stuff (as we now have the wild cards option).
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted October 14, 2013 12:17 PM |
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Well I buy Shiny C/U cards from VR set to get the Phatis achievement faster
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DoubleDeck
Promising
Legendary Hero
Look into my eyes...
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posted October 14, 2013 01:19 PM |
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Sure, but shiny VR packs you can buy with gold now...
My point is, now with Wild cards, the Infernal Pit seems unimportant now, especially with common/uncommon base sets on offer!
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Hermes
Famous Hero
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posted October 14, 2013 02:03 PM |
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Can someone please help me to create Academy creature heavy deck please? Preferably with spells and Hakeem, Myranda or Asalah
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DoubleDeck
Promising
Legendary Hero
Look into my eyes...
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posted October 14, 2013 07:06 PM |
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The_Polyglot
Promising
Supreme Hero
channeling capybara energy
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posted October 14, 2013 08:29 PM |
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So expensive though... will have to sit this one out.
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Dave_Jame
Promising
Legendary Hero
I'm Faceless, not Brainless.
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posted October 14, 2013 09:44 PM |
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So Nameless. Playing your cass
It's a good deck, but a T1? I would not even go as far as calling it relaibable. Its just so weak against sevral situations. Like week of Taxes Rush decks. As a Rush deck in it self it lacks a lot if the oponent breaks its first burst. Works but I would not call it a TOP deck.
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EvilNuff
Adventuring Hero
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posted October 14, 2013 10:32 PM |
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I think that Uraxor's version of Cass fortune is better but its extremely reliable. I am currently at 89% win rate with it. You have to abuse the fortunes...which by the way is why singularity is an important missing piece. Multiple prisons in a game alone is enough to win.
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