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bloodsucker
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posted April 05, 2014 03:36 PM |
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Storm-Giant said:
^Agree.
If the game wasn't so unbearable I would play them again. If only...
I said it before, for me H4 is by far the most ambitious of all Heroes series. Unfortunatly AI is not up to the match and I believe this was (at least to some degree) made on purpouse.
3DO was affraid that H3 gameplay difficulty or harder would keep the newbies away.
I remember to read an interview with a woman who worked in 3DO marketing department. She said the original H3 AI was too good to be beatable and they decided to add so limitations. Then they decided to add some more in the Heroes Chronicles.
If not by this, how would you explain the fact that AI doesn't buy Necromancers (or develop them if given) when it buys priests and sorcerers?
It is incredible how much playability has been sacrifized to the purpose of generate more players in this series. And I believe the tendency will remain for H7.
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Sarcyan
Adventuring Hero
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posted April 05, 2014 09:10 PM |
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B0rsuk said:
Heroes IV has very good music and amazing storyline. The rest may be half-baked, but the storyline alone makes it worth it.
The narrative in the game is excellent, uncommonly good for a HoMM game, where other areas usually shine more. Better than in Heroes 2, Heroes 3 and Heroes 5, imho. Second to it would probably be Heroes 2 for me, but it's not even close.
As I said, every little thing happening has some kind of story behind.
Storm-Giant said:
^Agree.
If the game wasn't so unbearable I would play them again. If only...
It's more bearable and palatable than I thought it would be when I didn't play it and read about the game.
They improved a few aspects of the game. The factions are much more specific and recognisable in Heroes IV. Nature is nature, it doesn't sound like Fortress or Dungeon in Heroes 3. And it is the only Heroes game, along HoMM 2 and 1, with true wolves as creatures -Wolf Riders are not what I'd want as a creature-  .
Nature changed to Sylvan in Heroes 5 but it's also easily recognisable that way, 'cos something Sylvester is related to nature.
It's also the only game where there are wolves as creatures along with 2 --didn't check Heroes 1.
Hell Hounds in Heroes 5 can be two, but they aren't the same as in the nature faction or the first HoMM games.
I have to say too that Heroes 5 made the inferno faction interesting, in Heroes 3 Inferno is the least appealing faction for me.
bloodsucker said:
Storm-Giant said:
^Agree.
If the game wasn't so unbearable I would play them again. If only...
I said it before, for me H4 is by far the most ambitious of all Heroes series. Unfortunatly AI is not up to the match and I believe this was (at least to some degree) made on purpouse.
3DO was affraid that H3 gameplay difficulty or harder would keep the newbies away.
I remember to read an interview with a woman who worked in 3DO marketing department. She said the original H3 AI was too good to be beatable and they decided to add so limitations. Then they decided to add some more in the Heroes Chronicles.
If not by this, how would you explain the fact that AI doesn't buy Necromancers (or develop them if given) when it buys priests and sorcerers?
It is incredible how much playability has been sacrifized to the purpose of generate more players in this series. And I believe the tendency will remain for H7.
Heroes 5 though is very balanced, not a walk in the park for newbies at times but not overly difficult, and you can choose the difficulty level of each campaign from the get go.
I hope that Heroes 7 adds balance but also some of the ideas for games like Heroes of Might and Magic: Clash of Heroes.
I discovered the actual Heroes of Might and Magic because of a very talented Youtuber -I told the story in another thread-...
But it seemed that my fate was tied to this series before.
I am a console gamer, most of all.  And back in October I got Heroes of Might and Magic: Clash of Heroes, for the Xbox 360.
It was the last Xbox 360 game I ever completed, before getting the Xbox One. 
That might sound mundane, but I had more than 200 Xbox 360 games and I only managed to complete a few of them, like 5% of my entire collection, and played the others just a little.
The game got me totally hooked from the very first day I played it. BUT I just liked the Heroes of Might and Magic name and remembered reading that name, Heroes of Might and Magic, here and there. Although I never cared about it.
So I completed the game -it's very different from the typical HoMM game though-, something particularly odd for me, loved it and got another console...
Anyways, not to write a thesis, some of the creatures of the Sylvan faction in HoMM: Clash of Heroes never made into the Heroes of Might and Magic games, afaik.
For the Sylvan wolves would be perfect in Heroes 7 -Sylvan had bears in HoMM: Clash of Heroes-, and creatures like the Deer. The Deer could jump over obstacles and hit hard with their antlers. It was pretty cool.
You can see a short video of the game here, where the Sylvan creatures appear in the puzzles -not the actual gameplay, these are just puzzles, but you get the idea-:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGyT1CcXGT0
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
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posted April 05, 2014 09:27 PM |
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Sarcyan said:
Storm-Giant said:
^Agree.
If the game wasn't so unbearable I would play them again. If only...
It's more bearable and palatable than I thought it would be when I didn't play it and read about the game.
Have in mind I played Heroes 4 for about 2 years when it came out and I was young - and I enjoyed it. But now, after so many years I can't simply enjoy it, way too different and ugly
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bloodsucker
Legendary Hero
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posted April 06, 2014 12:09 AM |
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Sarcyan said:
Heroes 5 though is very balanced, not a walk in the park for newbies at times but
Truth is I didn't played Heroes V for long and I almost didn't opened Heroes VI but I didn't found Heroes V credible. I remember once I was playing with a computer ally and my main had Enlightment with scholar and mentoring and leadership with diplomacy. I tryed to reach my ally heroes to teach them but in the process I also got some strong joinners I didn't need so I passed them to his heroes.
Believe it or not those groups started to grow exponentialy. Suddenly he had thousands of dead knights and mummies when there was no way of increase their numbers. Bad!!!
Another thing I hated was the way you were forced to have Attack so you could get Tactics, for me one of the most important skills in the game. What I remember to like were Luck and Pathfinding secondaries.
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Sarcyan
Adventuring Hero
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posted April 06, 2014 03:22 AM |
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Edited by Sarcyan at 03:27, 06 Apr 2014.
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bloodsucker said:
Sarcyan said:
Heroes 5 though is very balanced, not a walk in the park for newbies at times but
Truth is I didn't played Heroes V for long and I almost didn't opened Heroes VI but I didn't found Heroes V credible. I remember once I was playing with a computer ally and my main had Enlightment with scholar and mentoring and leadership with diplomacy. I tryed to reach my ally heroes to teach them but in the process I also got some strong joinners I didn't need so I passed them to his heroes.
Believe it or not those groups started to grow exponentialy. Suddenly he had thousands of dead knights and mummies when there was no way of increase their numbers. Bad!!!
What difficulty level were you playing at? I wonder... My experience with Heroes 5 comes from the campaign mode, where I almost completed the Haven campaign.
I set the difficulty level to Heroic, where the CPU is most challenging and ubiquitous in the map. I guess the AI cheats that way, but so it does in other Heroes games at higher difficulty levels.
For now I have a hard time choosing a favourite between Heroes 3, Heroes 5 and Heroes 2, but Heroes 5 is up there at the top for me. It has 3D, it is incredible overall, quicksaving is pretty easy, and it runs like a dream even if your machine isn't that powerful. (I run it internally at 2560x1600 in a 1280x720 window, crisp as it can get)
Wanted to run it at 4k and 8192x8192, but my graphics card isn't compatible with those modes. 
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Another thing I hated was the way you were forced to have Attack so you could get Tactics, for me one of the most important skills in the game. What I remember to like were Luck and Pathfinding secondaries.
You might have a point there with the logistics thing. Still I think Logistics have nothing to do with attack but Intelligence -knowledge?.
I remember years ago a radio programme featuring a very smart German general, called Kurt von Hammerstein, and the talk show guests mentioned how von Hammerstein used his soldiers in the military and how he categorised his men.
Some of Hammerstein theories always resound in my head, 'cos he was so right!!
According to him, the smart people who are hard working make excellent staff, because they take every detail into consideration.
He also went as saying that those who are hard working and stupid are the most dangerous people, a menace. Hence, they should be fired at once! --'cos they create irrelevant work for everyone.
So THIS!! I certainly know what he is talking about, some people just create work to others 'cos they think high of themselves for being hard workers -which I agree they are-, but many many times the work they want others to do is as fruitless as an oakwood in the desert.
It's just like "do this because there has to be something to do".
Additionally, his theory says that the stupid lazy ones must be left alone, they don't do any harm.
Finally, my favourite of his theories, which involved the following reasoning... Now that's when we get at your point. 
He said that there is another lot. The intelligent lazy ones, and those are the best people at Logistics.
This, this, and so this!!... always always resounded in my head!
It's so, so, so very true. Why? Because they are intelligent, and since they are lazy they use their intelligence to manage finding a way to get things done.
That's called Logistics.
By getting things done I mean that they manage to fulfil the needs of their army with the less work for everyone involved and distribute the work in a very intelligent way, when time is at a prime.
So things get done efficiently and quickly with the less work involved.
Do I know what he is talking about...! I've met some lazy but charming, intelligent people and they know their stuff.
And while they aren't the most appropriate for certain jobs, when they are under pressure they think about a way to find a solution rather quickly.
By that I mean getting rid of a problem, great problems that they get out of the way sometimes, like anyone else in this world!
Quick thinkers, so they don't have to work more than they need to. Sheer Logistics stuff.
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bloodsucker
Legendary Hero
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posted April 06, 2014 04:41 AM |
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I never heard about your general but I had a Statistics teacher who used to say that we owe all the progress of mankind to the lazy people. They are the ones who put their brains to work to find a way of getting the job done with less effort. Maybe she also had read your general premisses, I don't know.
But from that perspective HC veterans are the worst kind of people in the world: they don't get paid, their work is un-necessary and they really put a lot of effort in doing it, so they can create a lot of un-necessary work for others.
Think on such magnificent works of art as "The Dragon Slauther" or "Alexander, the great". Salamandre told me once he could spend one year working on his maps. And some of us had already spent days or weeks trying to win them...
If I were u I would keep those ideas to myself or you can get banned. 
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Sarcyan
Adventuring Hero
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posted April 06, 2014 05:17 AM |
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Edited by Sarcyan at 05:18, 06 Apr 2014.
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bloodsucker said:
I never heard about your general but I had a Statistics teacher who used to say that we owe all the progress of mankind to the lazy people. They are the ones who put their brains to work to find a way of getting the job done with less effort. Maybe she also had read your general premisses, I don't know.
But from that perspective HC veterans are the worst kind of people in the world: they don't get paid, their work is un-necessary and they really put a lot of effort in doing it, so they can create a lot of un-necessary work for others.
Think on such magnificent works of art as "The Dragon Slauther" or "Alexander, the great". Salamandre told me once he could spend one year working on his maps. And some of us had already spent days or weeks trying to win them...
If I were u I would keep those ideas to myself or you can get banned.
HC, what does it mean? Those people you mention are uncommonly good. They would be hard workers/intelligent people, so they would deserve to be in the high rankings.
Thanks for sharing your teacher's theory. She got it right, I think. Being lazy is not good, that's for sure, but when you are lazy and smart then you can make great things, not only for you but also for others.
http://www.businessinsider.sg/why-clever-and-lazy-people-become-leaders-2014-3/#.U0DDhnmKC00
I hope Ubisoft listen to your concerns about Logistics, bloodsucker, you might be onto something... he he
I gotta add that intelligent, lazy people aren't without criticism because of their laziness -maybe deservedly so at times-, but those are generally the people who look for the others the most in complicated situations and when pressured get the best results in the less time.
I knew a guy who was a workmate, to me certainly that kind of person your teacher described and he was appointed as Team Manager. He was so lazy sometimes he didn't even go to work /by that I mean going to a wind farm where the rest of his workmates were working/, just attended his mobile phone and he'd appear at work only if need be.
He was very charming and smart, and amusing at times. Thing is, he knew A LOT! When there was a big problem, there he was, and he fixed it -he was an Electro-mechanic- with flying colours, then he left afterwards and nobody knew of him for some time afterwards.
The company's staff knew him well and even so they accepted him, and they certainly made the right decision, knowing the "risks", despite some criticism he received for being happy-go-lucky at times, when problems arose you could count on him. He was certainly a better worker than quite a few others, it's just that he just wanted to work when he considered it absolutely necessary. Not to mention that he had a lot of charisma.
I remember this one time in a wind farm, he had to make something work and he was tired and.., while holding a heavy tool and climbing a wind turbine, he said; "I lack Newtons" -'cos of his lack of strength at the time (he was of a very strong build though)
That sentence kinda became famous in the whole company.
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bloodsucker
Legendary Hero
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posted April 06, 2014 06:19 PM |
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Sarcyan said:
HC, what does it mean?
And sometimes even the most intelligent, dedicated and full of integrity person fails to see the obvious
HC = Heroes Commmunity
I was refering to people like Slava, Valery, Jim Vogan or Quamarine who have done tons of intelligent hard-work to give us the oportunity of spend a large part of our time dilligently doing "nothing of use".
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Sarcyan
Adventuring Hero
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posted April 06, 2014 08:36 PM |
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Edited by Sarcyan at 20:38, 06 Apr 2014.
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bloodsucker said:
Sarcyan said:
HC, what does it mean?
And sometimes even the most intelligent, dedicated and full of integrity person fails to see the obvious
HC = Heroes Commmunity
Thaanaaaank you very much. Not being familiar with some terms makes for an awkward situation on occasion...
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I was refering to people like Slava, Valery, Jim Vogan or Quamarine who have done tons of intelligent hard-work to give us the oportunity of spend a large part of our time dilligently doing "nothing of use".
You may get a rock tossed my way for this one , but that actually sounds hilarious to me... _xD In your defense, though, I do concur... To those fellers, any kind of appreciation and admiration seems to be never enough.
My other two real life heroes of the Heroes community are Kivo and Orzie, because of the Succession Wars mod. Heroes 2 in Heroes 3 is just way too much awesomeness.
On a different note, regarding the logistics theory. I will point out an issue here. Being lazy alone is obviously very bad. If you are intelligent, lazy and have integrity then that's ok.
Unnatural laziness alone can lead to tensions and turmoil. I didn't live that, but a brother of mine spent about a month working (his company sent him there for a month) in certain country -let's just say it is close to the equator area- and they didn't get things done.
Laziness was a cultural thing there, but not the kind of natural laziness where making an effort is tough for you in a natural manner, but things like, whether making an effort or not was required, showing up late at work, with a smile, with anything done, just like that, everything seemed fine as if nothing happened, etc.
That's why while the country has lots of potential, it's an emergent one, it's upside down. Now we have Germany where this general's theory about the people in his ranks originated, and there... well, sure there are lazy people, but you can compare what Germany is compared to other countries...
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bloodsucker
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posted April 06, 2014 09:50 PM |
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No, you can't compare German to other people except curiously to Japanese.
They are the only one's I know who try hard things like "meditate" ("I have to stop thinking!! I have to Stop thinking!!!")
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted April 07, 2014 12:07 PM |
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sarcyan said:
Regarding Heroes IV, I am so excited to try it. I know that for you it creates conflicting voices in your head.
To be honest, I've been playing through Heroes IV for the past few weeks. I've been doing it mainly to wrap up the story of Tarnum (who is the main protagonist in all of the Heroes Chronicles games), but to experience the stories of the other campaigns as well.
In all honesty, they put more work on a narrative in the vanilla campaigns, they were done very well. In both expansions, the stories are of lower quality, in my opinion. Still, they're fairly good, but they've made a few design issues that are noticable within the stories.
Since I can't be bothered to play through it 'fair' (because I don't give much about the playstyle of the game), I've been using cheatcodes to give myself the upper hand and stroll through the maps easily - generating massive stacks to guard choke points, level up any Heroes to max level right at the start of the map and give myself a boatload of resources as soon as I am short on any of them. I don't give myself infinite movement, as a lot of the narrative comes days, weeks or months after either the start of the game or after hitting a certain trigger.
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Maurice
Hero of Order
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posted April 07, 2014 12:16 PM |
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bloodsucker said:
I said it before, for me H4 is by far the most ambitious of all Heroes series. Unfortunatly AI is not up to the match and I believe this was (at least to some degree) made on purpouse.
Actually, they were pressed for release, so they didn't have the time needed to polish the AI. It has lead to some rather awkward AI choices. On the campaign map, the AI has a tendency to ignore resources and powerups. It fails to see guarded bordergates as a threat and will blindly try to pass them. During castle sieges, I've seen the AI shuffle ranged attackers on and off the towers, instead of just shooting. I've seen defenders exit the castle to attack an attacking stack that's inside the castle walls through those walls - even if there is plenty of room inside the castle walls, even on a tower next to it (the reason this is stupid is that stacks behind the castle walls receive cover from attacks by stacks outside the castle walls). I've seen defenders leave the safety of the castle walls to attack the castle gate.
Furthermore, when you put the game on auto-combat, stacks that are attacking eachother have the tendecy to start some sort of dance around eachother, moving before attacking (and sometimes the path they take to do so is extremely awkward) even if they're right next to eachother. I've seen Heroes cast a non-damage spell while they could have finished combat by simply attacking or casting a damage spell.
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
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posted April 07, 2014 01:28 PM |
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Maurice said:
bloodsucker said:
I said it before, for me H4 is by far the most ambitious of all Heroes series. Unfortunatly AI is not up to the match and I believe this was (at least to some degree) made on purpouse.
Actually, they were pressed for release, so they didn't have the time needed to polish the AI.
I read that for most of the development of the game, they only had 2 programers because 3DO was already crumbling and they were trying to make money through spin-offs and such.
Also, I think the release of H4 was a disaster in terms of bugs (not like it improved a lot in H5 or H6...)
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Aron
Known Hero
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posted April 07, 2014 01:43 PM |
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Edited by Aron at 13:44, 07 Apr 2014.
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I've said it before but I'll say it again: I can't stand the graphics in IV. I'm not big on graphics (meaning I can even play games without graphics)...But I can't take disconnected, lego/playdoo type of graphics in a game trying to take itself seriously. Everything seems disconnected, everything looks like plastic.
I'd pay for a mod that fixes it.
edit: And fine, each has their own taste. This isn't mine! So no hate to those that like it. I abandoned a great RPG too, sadly, because I can't take this type of graphics. I dunno what it is tbh.
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted April 07, 2014 02:09 PM |
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Aron said:
I've said it before but I'll say it again: I can't stand the graphics in IV. I'm not big on graphics (meaning I can even play games without graphics)...But I can't take disconnected, lego/playdoo type of graphics in a game trying to take itself seriously. Everything seems disconnected, everything looks like plastic.
I have the same. Armor doesn't look / feel like it's armor (but maybe that's also a sound issue). The way units look (for instance Minotaurs are top-heavy with skimpy legs) or move is horrid (especially units like the Satyr and Leprechaun). I can't really stand it.
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Storm-Giant
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Undefeatable Hero
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posted April 07, 2014 02:16 PM |
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Or the Behemoth, it looked just terrible
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bloodsucker
Legendary Hero
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posted April 07, 2014 04:26 PM |
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In Heroes IV, I never put the game in auto-combat because I don't apreciate computer's choice of damaging spells.
This happened to me some years ago. I was playing with Death (as usual) and the map was almost finnished. Even my Death Knight (now a Field Marshall) was an extremely powerfull spellcaster with GrandMaster Chaos Magic and GrandMaster Sorcery. In the beginning of a new month I attacked a dozen new creatures (genies and mages, it was the month of the genie) and he casted Armageddon. I've lost more troops on that insignificant fight then I had lost in any other battle of the game.
I never used it again and I created a unjustified prejudice against auto, cause I've notice that at least in WoG, H3 simulations are generally very close to my level of gameplay. Also, in Heroes IV computer casts always the most powerfull spells disposable not saving spell points and that doesn't happen in Heroes III.
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sarcyan
Adventuring Hero
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posted April 07, 2014 08:21 PM |
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Maurice said:
sarcyan said:
Regarding Heroes IV, I am so excited to try it. I know that for you it creates conflicting voices in your head.
To be honest, I've been playing through Heroes IV for the past few weeks. I've been doing it mainly to wrap up the story of Tarnum (who is the main protagonist in all of the Heroes Chronicles games), but to experience the stories of the other campaigns as well.
In all honesty, they put more work on a narrative in the vanilla campaigns, they were done very well. In both expansions, the stories are of lower quality, in my opinion. Still, they're fairly good, but they've made a few design issues that are noticable within the stories.
Since I can't be bothered to play through it 'fair' (because I don't give much about the playstyle of the game), I've been using cheatcodes to give myself the upper hand and stroll through the maps easily - generating massive stacks to guard choke points, level up any Heroes to max level right at the start of the map and give myself a boatload of resources as soon as I am short on any of them. I don't give myself infinite movement, as a lot of the narrative comes days, weeks or months after either the start of the game or after hitting a certain trigger.
Did you mention the story of H4? Oh my....!
The story in Heroes IV is precious, it is a lovely surprise. I gotta admit Heroes 4 is growing on me, once I ran it in compatibility mode –XP compatibility, I have Windows 8- some of the previous issues I had with it are gone, and it definitely saves a lot of heartache down the road.
I started the Necromancer campaign to test it –not getting into Heroes IV fully anytime soon- and I read a better story in just the first two texts of the Necromancer campaign than in the entire campaigns of a few AAA modern games.
But the best thing is the sound of Ghosts when they laugh ‘cos the AI didn’t hit them –they are incorporeal.
It is in the same league as the legendary “Blaaaaaaaaa” sound of vampires in Heroes of Might and Magic 2.
As for the art, I kinda feel the same but when it comes to Heroes 3. Some of the H3 towns look really beautiful, some of the creatures are also great to look at. That’s not the problem.
Rampart and Dungeon towns are the best for me, in that sense, and so is the Conflux (best one to me, by far, in fact it doesn't seem to be a H3 town), which fortunately is a huge step away from what you would expect in the art style of Heroes 3.
Necropolis is also okay, so is Tower. But the Stronghold, Haven and inferno factions don’t look that good to me.
Working on the principle that Heroes 3 looks fine overall in the creatures design and towns design department….
I blame it on the fact that the game was programmed in the late 90s, when 3D started to shine and character models looked the same in most game -say, Heroes 3 and The Longest Journey have very similar 3d models, like many many other games of the time-, but not outstanding.
Typical of late 90s are the drab 3D models not affected by light at all, which was great at the time, but it is unacceptable nowadays. That’s my main gripe with it.
Still not the game’s fault, and artists did a great job with the game. Most of the creatures are imaginative, perturbing, beautiful, awesome.
Heroes 3 HD is the best thing that could happen to Heroes 3, because the game is so good and solid by its own merits that it doesn’t need much to shine, just an HD update like that and 32 bits and that’s how Heroes 3 is where it is now.
Heroes 3 HD let you play the game as for the original vision of the developers. Without it, and if your GPU doesn’t accept 32 bits, you are just looking at a confusing, pixelated mess that doesn’t do justice to Heroes 3 awesomeness.
For instance, I tried Heroes Chronicles once again, and with all the upscaling going on running on full screen, I can’t bring myself to like it.
Each time I try I feel confused and want to leave the game, because it’s not windowed and it looks so drab, it forces the GPU to run at 16 bits for windowed mode, and my GPU is only keen on accepting 32 bits.
The main problem is that Heroes Chronicles runs internally at 800x600 and it's not compatible with Heroes 3 HD, so everything looks larger and skewed, more stretched than it should. It makes my aim rather difficult and confusing. 
Heroes IV on the other hand, is colourful and crisp, and beautiful to me, regardless of the faction. Just like Heroes V –although I don’t like the look of peasants and priests in Heroes 5, they are much more awesome in Heroes 2-.
Another thing I like about Heroes IV -and V- is that the opponents can come with tactics you don't expect, like in a chess game, where the opening can be different depending on the player. Heroes 3 has a bit of this, although it is slightly more hero dependent in that regard. Still pretty acceptable.
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Aron
Known Hero
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posted April 07, 2014 08:40 PM |
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Edited by Aron at 20:45, 07 Apr 2014.
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You should certainly try Age of Wonders II and Elemental: Fallen Enchantress.
Probably AoW III as well but I haven't tried it so I don't know (still waiting for good news about AI and multiplayer).
There's alot more tactics in both games while still being very hero-dependent in map-exploration.
AOW I'm sure you know already a bit but here's FE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBwZvhR5v5Y
I actually haven't played it since I payed for Elemental: War of Magic or what ever it was called. We who bought it after a certain date got scammed. They stoped patching it, it was bugged as hell and people who bought it earlier got a free FE. So I sorta boycotted Stardock for this series at least.
The old game was ALOT more complex...extremely interesting economics.
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Aron
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posted April 07, 2014 08:40 PM |
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