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JollyJoker said: With brexit, it's not muslim-phobia, but Eastern-Europe-EU-member-UK-mover-phobia
Please, don't act like EU is the only way to go, this is the irrational crap and eurocentrist propaganda I denounce on all levels. There are several countries in EU geographically doing better -and in ALL areas, than any country in the EU gang while they are NOT in the EU gang. How is that possible and who is playing fear here?
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But that is a problem of law enforcement agencies not working together properly,
It is exactly what I'm saying. Traditional parties must reconsider their approach and solutions, as until now they are ineffective.
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artu said: It would also be nice to remember that the dominating elite that you complain about votes for conservative Republicans in the U.S., not the liberal Democrats.
Sometimes though, you're very funny, I didn't know you had it in you.
But we know how most rich business owners are opposed to gay marriage, after all, they pushed that rainbow flag on their products, and we know who pushed for gay marriage.
The dominating elite votes for whoever is the most popular, that way they can continue to influence politics, by putting one of their agents in the most popular party, why endorse a failing party? In a Democrat government they could do next to nothing if they all were Republican.
The only ones that I think will never vote Democrat are the gun producers, for obvious reasons, and even then, they may change banner if the Democrats stop pushing for gun control (extremely improbable, but who knows).
Trump is a tycoon, Hillary works for the establishment, both are viable candidates for being part of the grand conspiracy, so let's stop fooling ourselves with this dream of democracy, if Hillary was anti-establishment, as Obama should have been, we would have seen some effects, and, as far as we know, Hillary will continue Obama's policies, so...
Trump, is... a wildcard, nothing else to say, he may be a buffoon, but he knows how to play the game of mass media, is he sincere? Who knows...
You want democracy? Too bad, you're tangled in a system where the rich do whatever they want, if you thought that Bernie stood a chance because he was an outlier? You thought that somehow a champion of the people would arrive?
Enjoy the ride.
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Okay, first of all, the significant problem in the U.S. about the symbiotic relationship between finance and politics is their laws allowing unlimited financial support for candidates. The solution to that is obviously not abandoning democracy, though. Many Americans already see this and try to produce solutions. It was also Bernie Sanders reason of popularity, he couldn't win but at least he caused Hillary Clinton to soften her position on the matter, to avoid reaction.
Secondly, the creme de la creme in the U.S. really is significantly Republican, Democrats usually get most of the minority votes and the middle-class is divided as can be expected. An example, every American here will instantly get this joke, it's from an American TV show, the dialogue is between a lawyer and her husband, they are invited to a mountain resort, kind of a private club for the very rich:
- So, this is the top one percent of the top one percent
of the top one percent?
- We're not gonna talk like communists here, okay?
- So, how did you get to know all these billionaires anyway?
- R.D.
- If I were to set off a bomb in this room, we'd have Democratic presidents for the next 30 years!
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posted July 08, 2016 12:23 PM |
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artu said: it isn't only Sal from France teaching BB from US why Trump triumphs), but many of the local millions who vote against them as well.
Look, my complaint isn't about who wins, but about the quality of info I get and which is supposed to create in me a rational choice, based on my convictions, my life experience and the facts related. Is about the core of journalistic responsibility, is about me not being able to construct a neutral opinion because I am constantly manipulated.
Three days ago, all french media decide to show the "ugliest world doggy" video competition, and when the winner is proclaimed, a photo of Trump is displayed nearby. Imagine I put a baboon pic near Obama, how that looks any worse? The day after, all titles are about Obama the "Nobel peace price", openly supporting Hillary, the title mixing peace, Nobel and Hillary. Today Trump is depicted in underlined titles as anti semitic monster because his tweet against Hillary uses a text bubble in form of David star (seriously? sheriffs are all antisemitic then). Every day we face a flood of ideologically missguided info, while the media role is to display the reality, not how they interpret it. As reader, it is my privilege to interpret the news, not to constantly swallow them already chewed.
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posted July 08, 2016 12:27 PM |
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artu said: That's not what you did, saying "you have nothing that can prove he will do something just because he says so" isn't to be not prejudiced against someone until they are tested, it's literally saying that their word means nothing and they can't be trusted about what they promise. You test someone by expecting them to KEEP the promise, not the other way around, it's a pretty basic concept in every culture!
Here's a saying from Sweden Artu, "Swedes don't listen to what they are saying, but from what they are doing". Trump is no different. What you said only confirms what I first said, because it is not the speaches that matters, it's the actions. Yet you slam down the judgement hammer based on what he's yapping.
artu said: Speaking of... Not every disagreement is cultural you know, just the other day I've read you in a H3 thread "wondering if it's a cultural difference" because you didn't agree with someone about Dungeon being better than some other town. Lol. You see, it is your own mindset that ties everything to cultural difference, JJ is from Germany and he also said something similar about your comment, why don't you dig for any cultural difference there?
"What you see in others is the mum part of yourself" and you proved this with bravura. It's not about the disagreement being cultural, it's how your culture and history shapes your way of looking at things, which is why experience is the only real mentor Artu.
You cannot comprehend immigration because I doubt you have your elders living like prisoners in prison. I doubt you can understand why immigration is scoffed at when you have not had the scenario when your elders asks for 1$ extra cup of coffee a day while a foreign random jerkface gets food made specifically for him or her at a cost of 90$ a day times the exorbitant amounts of them. And best part of it all? They are NOT happy with this.
I have seen what happened to the brave souls who made this country great. They rot away in a cramped retirement house that smells of dog snow while Mr and Mrs Foreign comes and gets everything served on a silverplate, free contributions, free houses, right to cut in line for rent apartments, retroactive parent money and god knows what else.
This stings my heart Artu and while you have good arguments, this is something that is almost impossible to grasp until it is affecting you and those close to you. And despite our arguments, I pray this will never happen to you or anyone close to you.
You did in fact summarize it pretty good yourself Artu.
"If you don't see it, you don't see it."
Here's mine:
"You don't experience it, you don't grasp it".
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posted July 08, 2016 12:38 PM |
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Quote: It's not about the disagreement being cultural, it's how your culture and history shapes your way of looking at things, which is why experience is the only real mentor Artu
When the discussion is about which fraction is better in a computer game, comparing units, terrain, etc. The diversity in preference is really not shaped by history and culture, Ebonheart. And this happens to be my experience.
Quote: Here's a saying from Sweden Artu, "Swedes don't listen to what they are saying, but from what they are doing". Trump is no different. What you said only confirms what I first said, because it is not the speaches that matters, it's the actions. Yet you slam down the judgement hammer based on what he's yapping.
We also have a synonymous proverb, "The mirror of a person is his deeds, not his words." Once again, this all means that you have to keep your word, not that your words are not important.
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posted July 08, 2016 12:47 PM |
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artu said:
When the discussion is about which fraction is better in a computer game, comparing units, terrain, etc. The diversity in preference is really not shaped by history and culture, Ebonheart. And this happens to be my experience.
I respect your opinion.
artu said: Once again, this all means that you have to keep your word, not that your words are not important.
But how exactly can you then brand Trump for all of the stuff mentioned in the thread since he has not yet had his chance in the office?
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posted July 08, 2016 03:38 PM |
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Neraus
Over the years I've come to realize the two parties act like two parties but for whatever reason, in power they are little different. We need look no farther than the Bush to Obama hand-off.
I want neither the Clinton nor the Bush machines to ever hold ANY office again.
Will Trump be just the same puppet but with a different face? Can't say till he is elected, IF he is elected by the people. Maybe yes or maybe no. I'm not holding my breath either way, today I trust actions and no words.
Since all politicians today can front their lies with straight-faces, usually in convincing fashion, because of their "practicing and using the two-identities power strategy" (which most of us common folks would call fabricated split personalities)access to Truth is worse than ever.
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posted July 08, 2016 04:05 PM |
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Last night the identity politics and cop hatred preached by the democrat party, including Obama and Hillary resulted in the shooting of 12 cops in Dallas. 5 police officers are dead.
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posted July 08, 2016 04:39 PM |
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This year alone, 123 black people have been shot dead by police. 38 of them were unarmed.
Now i'm not saying the US police is a bit racist (it is in fact EXTREMELY racist), I just thought I'd put that out there.
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What do you think, what would happen if the sides were reversed? A dark-skinned policeman shot (and killed) a fair-skinned man?
Elodin said: Last night the identity politics and cop hatred preached by the democrat party, including Obama and Hillary resulted in the shooting of 12 cops in Dallas. 5 police officers are dead.
Then where's the communist party when you need it?
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posted July 08, 2016 05:42 PM |
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As a victim of gang stalking since im 10 years old, you'll have to forgive how I celebrate every time a cop is shot with a beer.
On a less biased perspective though, I don't agree with the actions, but I do understand it and consider it a natural consequence.
There are many "legal loopholes" that prevents us from telling the real truth. Saying that peaceful means do not always solve a problem, and saying that cops are unfazed by anything else than violence is, in a way, inciting for violence and thus illegal. Funny huh?
Such an attack is based on generalization. But you know what? I like to slap a percentage on generalizations. Let's say... "all black people talks loud in libraries, these uneducated f---s." How true is it? Is it 10 % true, or maybe 20 % true, or only true 5 % of the time? Now, let's say I say... "All cops only apply the law on the little people, not on themselves." How true is that? 99% of the time?
The cops are so united in their stubbornness and fear of consequence of doing anything against a fellow cop that said percentage reached the very high digit of 99%. The percentage is so high that shooting cop A when cop B was the racist one makes sense. I'm not saying it's righteous, but it does make sense.
To me, justice and vengeance are like light and shadow. One cannot exist without the other. If someone is wronged to the point where his life is ruined, and cannot have justice through proper means, then that person's vengeance isn't really vengeance. It's just... the rule of the strong.
This shooting... was but the cry of a people tried of being shot at by racist cops that never pays for their mistakes, and since what holds the cops in line is fear, well, if they fear their own government and their own gangs, surely they can also fear other people, like blacks.
Cops, as usual, will not bend to reason, and will be quick to call out this shooting as an evil act ( which it is ) and use this as an excuse to blow things out of proportion. They will either go on strike and stop doing their job with the citizens or put major pressure on every black lives matter protest from here on out, instead of just be like "ok we will stop defending our violent cops".
People in the law making us "respect" their authority, as usual. Most countries are like that, really. It's just that the US is so good at trying to look good, many US citizens still doesn't get it.
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posted July 08, 2016 06:04 PM |
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Things race pimping democrats do not want you to know.
Clicky
Whatever the reasons of the two cop-black shootings were it does not justify the murder of white cops and shooting of white civilians in Dallas.
It is bigotry to paint cops as bigots. Cops of every race put their lives on the line for all races. In the shootings in Dallas the cops ran towards the shootings and tried to protect even the protesters there who hated them.
The demonizing by the left of cops is morally reprehensible. One of the many reasons Hillary must never be POTUS.
A month or so before Hillary announced her campaign to be POTUS Bill Clinton said identity politics is a poison that is destroying our nation. But he has not had the courage to stand up and denounce his wife for being the Queen of identity politics.
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posted July 08, 2016 06:13 PM |
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kiryu133 said: This year alone, 123 black people have been shot dead by police. 38 of them were unarmed.
Now i'm not saying the US police is a bit racist (it is in fact EXTREMELY racist), I just thought I'd put that out there.
Ye ye we get the point that you are a racist since you love to focus on race, but it gets tiresome to listen to it.
Kayna said: As a victim of gang stalking since im 10 years old, you'll have to forgive how I celebrate every time a cop is shot with a beer.
Why don't you then celebrate every death in the world then? Every terrorist that beheads men, women and children, you raise that tankard for them too I hope?
Cause you know, those working as cops got a life too and families that will never see their beloved one again. Disgraceful.
Kayna said: On a less biased perspective though, I don't agree with the actions, but I do understand it and consider it a natural consequence.
On a less biased perspective though, I don't agree with the actions, but I do understand that the holocaust was needed and consider it a natural consequence. /Bitter sarcasm.
Kayna said: There are many "legal loopholes" that prevents us from telling the real truth. Saying that peaceful means do not always solve a problem, and saying that cops are unfazed by anything else than violence is, in a way, inciting for violence and thus illegal. Funny huh?
Have you given what you said a second thought?
Kayna said: Such an attack is based on generalization. But you know what? I like to slap a percentage on generalizations. Let's say... "all black people talks loud in libraries, these uneducated f---s." How true is it? Is it 10 % true, or maybe 20 % true, or only true 5 % of the time? Now, let's say I say... "All cops only apply the law on the little people, not on themselves." How true is that? 99% of the time?
It does not matter what it is based on, it is wrong and that's final.
Kayna said: The cops are so united in their stubbornness and fear of consequence of doing anything against a fellow cop that said percentage reached the very high digit of 99%. The percentage is so high that shooting cop A when cop B was the racist one makes sense. I'm not saying it's righteous, but it does make sense.
No it sadly does not.
Kayna said: To me, justice and vengeance are like light and shadow. One cannot exist without the other. If someone is wronged to the point where his life is ruined, and cannot have justice through proper means, then that person's vengeance isn't really vengeance. It's just... the rule of the strong.
Justice is intended to prevent vengeance by punishing according to a written law to prevent zealotry and taking matters into your own hands.
Just listen to what you are writing, if we go by that logic, I should get all the explosives, bio weapons, toxic gases and AK47s I can carry and murder every immigrant that I see because they have ruined my life and possibly my future.
Kayna said: This shooting... was but the cry of a people tried of being shot at by racist cops that never pays for their mistakes, and since what holds the cops in line is fear, well, if they fear their own government and their own gangs, surely they can also fear other people, like blacks.
You are claiming that every cop is a racist. That they have no innocence or personal life just because they put on a badge that says "cop" and tries to do a job according to a law that was decided and written by the people. And on top of this you find it acceptable for them to be slain.
Why don't you try to be a cop and see for yourself how "easy and racist" the job is?
Kayna said: Cops, as usual, will not bend to reason, and will be quick to call out this shooting as an evil act ( which it is ) and use this as an excuse to blow things out of proportion. They will either go on strike and stop doing their job with the citizens or put major pressure on every black lives matter protest from here on out, instead of just be like "ok we will stop defending our violent cops".
Jesus christ both black and white cops gets killed and obviously people and especially cops react to this. The dead colleagues might have been there friends or even worse, partners.
Kayna said: People in the law making us "respect" their authority, as usual. Most countries are like that, really. It's just that the US is so good at trying to look good, many US citizens still doesn't get it.
They try their best to uphold the law and for that they are to be trashed. Try to imagine a world without cops - that is pure cruelty.
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Ebonheart said:
Kayna said: As a victim of gang stalking since im 10 years old, you'll have to forgive how I celebrate every time a cop is shot with a beer.
Why don't you then celebrate every death in the world then Disgraceful.
Yes, disgraceful and not for everybody. I'm but a normal person, like everyone else, and sometimes you get live through so much snow you don't manage to shake it all off. This isn't an opinion, only a feeling, and I can still make the difference between the two.
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Kayna said: On a less biased perspective though, I don't agree with the actions, but I do understand it and consider it a natural consequence.
On a less biased perspective though, I don't agree with the actions, but I do understand that the holocaust was needed and consider it a natural consequence. /Bitter sarcasm.
Your sarcasm is empty. The Jews do not represent a dangerous problem at a 99 % rate, at least not back then. Maybe there's a case to be made about today's Israelites though, now that "normal" citizens are colonizing land and families brought over with guns and such. Their level of brainwash has reached over 90 % at least, a very impressive digit.
Ebonheart said:
Kayna said: There are many "legal loopholes" that prevents us from telling the real truth. Saying that peaceful means do not always solve a problem, and saying that cops are unfazed by anything else than violence is, in a way, inciting for violence and thus illegal. Funny huh?
Have you given what you said a second thought?
Yes, more than second thoughts. 99% of humans are cowards and we believe what we want to believe so it's easier for us. The very few that reach this level of reasoning can be legally shut down if they speak publicly about it. It's... a legal loophole in favor of the powers that be.
Ebonheart said:
Kayna said: Such an attack is based on generalization. But you know what? I like to slap a percentage on generalizations. Let's say... "all black people talks loud in libraries, these uneducated f---s." How true is it? Is it 10 % true, or maybe 20 % true, or only true 5 % of the time? Now, let's say I say... "All cops only apply the law on the little people, not on themselves." How true is that? 99% of the time?
It does not matter what it is based on, it is wrong and that's final.
It is wrong. But why are you dismissing it as final so quickly? You do not want to face important details? You think there is no difference between a mad man harming others over a generality that is true 20 % of the time versus a mad man harming others over a generality that is true at 99 % ? The devil lies in the details my friend.
Ebonheart said:
Kayna said: The cops are so united in their stubbornness and fear of consequence of doing anything against a fellow cop that said percentage reached the very high digit of 99%. The percentage is so high that shooting cop A when cop B was the racist one makes sense. I'm not saying it's righteous, but it does make sense.
No it sadly does not.
Yes it does. And I did take the time to specify that making sense doesn't necessarily equate to justice or morally superior. Your quote and the one above lacks any arguments to be honest.
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Kayna said: To me, justice and vengeance are like light and shadow. One cannot exist without the other. If someone is wronged to the point where his life is ruined, and cannot have justice through proper means, then that person's vengeance isn't really vengeance. It's just... the rule of the strong.
Justice is intended to prevent vengeance by punishing according to a written law to prevent zealotry and taking matters into your own hands.
Just listen to what you are writing, if we go by that logic, I should get all the explosives, bio weapons, toxic gases and AK47s I can carry and murder every immigrant that I see because they have ruined my life and possibly my future.
First of all, justice is there for many things, not just to "prevent" vengeance. It's there to either bring real justice, or pretend that justice rules our law. It also pretends it cares for the individual's justice when it more often seeks to regulate us like a notary would a company ; siding with who is still able to give to the society. Disagreements often comes from the difference between the appearance of justice and what we get in reality. Second, you can become a mad man and shoot immigrants if you want, but I'm pretty sure the amount of immigrants that ruined your life wasn't in the 99%, nor would 99% of immigrants defend whoever ruined your life like cops do with their own.
Ebonheart said:
Kayna said: This shooting... was but the cry of a people tried of being shot at by racist cops that never pays for their mistakes, and since what holds the cops in line is fear, well, if they fear their own government and their own gangs, surely they can also fear other people, like blacks.
You are claiming that every cop is a racist. That they have no innocence or personal life just because they put on a badge that says "cop" and tries to do a job according to a law that was decided and written by the people. And on top of this you find it acceptable for them to be slain.
Why don't you try to be a cop and see for yourself how "easy and racist" the job is?
No. I'm not claiming that every cop is racist. I'm claiming that some are racist and kills, and 99% of other cops turn a blind eye when they're paid by the government to bring justice any wrong doing they see. Those cops were innocent, and no, I didn't say it was "acceptable", but rather "a natural consequence" because when you cannot have justice, then the rule of the strong applies. If a cop finds the job too hard, they can quit it. There's no need to keep cops that can't do their job properly as long as there are others ready to take the job.
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Kayna said: Cops, as usual, will not bend to reason, and will be quick to call out this shooting as an evil act ( which it is ) and use this as an excuse to blow things out of proportion. They will either go on strike and stop doing their job with the citizens or put major pressure on every black lives matter protest from here on out, instead of just be like "ok we will stop defending our violent cops".
Jesus christ both black and white cops gets killed and obviously people and especially cops react to this. The dead colleagues might have been there friends or even worse, partners.
You're not talking about what I meant here. I just mean to say that cops are ruled by a more powerful entity and they will never do the most reasonable thing to do, which is to deal with their own bad apples, whether the people endure, do nothing, or fight them.
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Kayna said: People in the law making us "respect" their authority, as usual. Most countries are like that, really. It's just that the US is so good at trying to look good, many US citizens still doesn't get it.
They try their best to uphold the law and for that they are to be trashed. Try to imagine a world without cops - that is pure cruelty.
You're just polarizing the discussion here. Instead of picturing a world without cops, how about we picture a world where cops deal with their own racist murderers? Why can't you picture a world like that? Is it that impossible? Are we talking about pink elephants coming from outer space or what?
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posted July 08, 2016 07:00 PM |
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Kayna, I can't make out if you are trolling or serious.
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posted July 08, 2016 07:07 PM |
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Neraus said: You thought that somehow a champion of the people would arrive?
the people have to have standards, in order to even produce a champion. standards aren't widespread anymore(if they ever really were). anyone with standards is browbeaten into shape by the millions of snowtards who don't have the sense to care about anything outside their petty little lives.
any champions we ever get, are killed off by the evil and rotten mothersnowers that dominate this country. in fact, they're killed off all across the world; and have been for millenia. the issues in any society, don't strictly adhere to the u.s. alone. it's just that the u.s. is a major attention snow with their power-grabs thinly disguised as "world-policing", and they stand out in front; when they should be standing side-by-side with all the other snowwits who ruin everything. at least then, we'd be able to blend in.
but no, we have to be the rotten homecoming queen who snowed her way to the top of her class, and comes to the ball with a gaudy and snowty gown. snowing degenerate snow.
ok, i'll stop needlessly ranting now. or not, it's not like anyone's paying any attention.
titty sprinkles.
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posted July 08, 2016 07:29 PM |
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Ebonheart said: Kayna, I can't make out if you are trolling or serious.
I'm serious. To fully understand the context, or any context for that matter, you need to take a step back and forget who you are for a moment. Let me help you understand. Let's take another example, let's change the textures a bit ( lol ).
Let's say... the US war in Iraq. A full 3 months of carpet bombing, then US soldiers set foot on the ground and do their thing. Some Muslims saw them a bad people, others saw them as saviors. The exact percentage of which I do not know. Those that believed these US soldiers helped them. They believed in the US' justice. The US started training them. The US pretended they were there to help them. Then, at some point, Chelsea Manning gave out info to wikileaks, and the whole world saw that famous video where they kill innocent Iraqis and cheer all the while. And more importantly, they saw that these soldiers never paid for what they did.
They saw that there was no justice. They saw through the bullsnow. Then they started shooting US soldiers in the back and such to the point where the US decided to withdraw.
Then you interject and you point your finger and you say "But this soldier they just shot was innocent!" Maybe he was. You just fail to take all the context in consideration. Maybe, if the US army prosecuted all the criminals instead of a few of their own only, would they have kept their reputation, but they did not.
Today, the black people are seeing through the bullsnow. They now know that this justice isn't fair to them, they see that the words of the government, the promise of justice, isn't true but rather words used as weapons to make us believe things. They now know that it was but the rule of the strong that was ruling over all of us, all along, that this democracy and promise of justice was but a cover up.
If black people becomes reasonable, the problem will remain. But if cops becomes reasonable, the problem will be fixed. Do you understand now, who has to do something to solve this?
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posted July 08, 2016 07:44 PM |
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The same reasoning you use mate is exactly the same that both the Nazis and Communists used to justify their actions.
And realistically, when you look on your own arguments, you can justify anything. It's all about who has the power.
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posted July 08, 2016 07:50 PM |
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Ebonheart said: The same reasoning you use mate is exactly the same that both the Nazis and Communists used to justify their actions.
And realistically, when you look on your own arguments, you can justify anything. It's all about who has the power.
Not at all. You just used very vague words and wrongfully associate my argument with these words. Heck, explaining all the differences in details would take me a freaking week.
I'm just talking about a little justice, according to the definition of the dictionary. Be nice to people that are nice to you, kill people that tries to kill you, etc. To be more specific, If the powers that be cannot make the difference between an innocent and the guilty, then you don't need to do the same either... but only toward the powers that be.
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