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articun
Supreme Hero
As i dream, so shall it be!
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posted February 21, 2016 10:02 PM |
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Gryphs said:
articun said:
And now we have the elite tier of Inferno ready 
That is not a good thing.
Think positive, only 2 other units can be imported from Heroes VI 
All Factions that were in heroes VI reused half the assets
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Zeki
Supreme Hero
sup
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posted February 21, 2016 10:06 PM |
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lordgraa said:
Zeki said:
btw where did the picture of the efreet go? I somehow can't find it and there is none in google search xD
Efreet in game
Efreet artwork
Thanks!
I don't like how he just fades out at the end, for me an efreet has to have a fire vortex :/
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Gryphs
Supreme Hero
The Clever Title
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posted February 21, 2016 10:11 PM |
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articun said:
Think positive, only 2 other units can be imported from Heroes VI
All Factions that were in heroes VI reused half the assets
Positive and H7 do not go together. I would be surprised if they did not just lift Inferno out of H6 and plop it in H7 with no changes.
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted February 21, 2016 10:12 PM |
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I want to see inferno so bad. Even if the ravager and lilim are to be re-used. Just keep away the breeder!
At last necromancy is more balanced now so i can finally play necro
I was level 8 and my exp bar was only 4500 xps long -.-
They seriously need to readjust the xp gain. It will work wonders. Especially in campaings!! I m very curious about the wheel and class changes (if snd when they come)!!
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JollyJoker
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
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posted February 21, 2016 10:14 PM |
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Umm, Chris? Between you and me - you don't see your total XP but the XP missing for the next level. 
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted February 21, 2016 10:17 PM |
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JollyJoker said:
Umm, Chris? Between you and me - you don't see your total XP but the XP missing for the next level.
I know what u are saying but my bar was "empty". Meaning i had gained a level and i barely made it to the next. And for the next level i wanted another 4500. Mind you i was in a campaign.
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted February 21, 2016 10:20 PM |
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Gryphs said:
articun said:
Positive and H7 HC do not go together.
Fixed
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted February 21, 2016 11:05 PM |
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*sigh*
Heroes fans will stop ranting the day we get a new Heroes game worthy of the name, is simple to understand really.
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Gryphs
Supreme Hero
The Clever Title
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posted February 21, 2016 11:15 PM |
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Give us something to be positive about Chris.
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"Don't resist the force. Redirect it. Water over rock."-blizzardboy
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ChrisD1
Supreme Hero
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posted February 22, 2016 01:22 AM |
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Gryphs said:
Give us something to be positive about Chris.
not falling for that everything has been said already.
I still don't know if necromancy is OP. the cap does a good job but I don't think it's enough. dark points are the answer to everything:/ a shame they don't have the skill to implement it. Can any of the modders here try to mess with necromancy?
btw the scale mod still works with 1.7, I didn't have to verify any files, so ghost dragons seem majestic as ever!
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Hermes
Famous Hero
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posted February 22, 2016 09:53 AM |
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Gryphs said:
Give us something to be positive about Chris.
There you go:
1. Stable Heroes VII at the moment with no serious bugs
2. Port forwarding is in the game for easy multiplayer
3. Work still continue on Heroes VII with patch 1.7 released
4. Free DLC is released, another one is in the making
5. Colors have been adjusted since release, and game looks better than ever
6. Performance is good now
7. Devs listening to suggestions and implementing skill changes.
8. This is the best Heroes game for me and many others.
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JollyJoker
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
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posted February 22, 2016 10:21 AM |
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Hermes said:
8. This is the best Heroes game for me and many others.
If that's the best Heroes game now, then the whole franchise must have been a lot suckier than me and many others thought.
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Hermes
Famous Hero
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posted February 22, 2016 10:53 AM |
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No, I don't agree with that at all.
See, I have played heroes games since I was about 8 years old. My favourite one back then was HoMM 2, such an enchanting game. HoMM 3 will always have a special place in my heart along with brave and innovative IV.
However, apart from nostalgia feeling it's kind of hard for me to play older games now when I can play VII or some other games instead. I guess I'm so used to improved graphics and newer style of gameplay...
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JollyJoker
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
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posted February 22, 2016 11:03 AM |
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For me "graphics" isn't a technical, but an artistical thing, while style of gameplay has something to do with quality, not age.
What about H5ToE? (With or without 5.5?)
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted February 22, 2016 11:11 AM |
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Edited by Elvin at 11:19, 22 Feb 2016.
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Graphics is one thing but gameplay? H7 offers just about nothing that the older titles have not done better. Skill system? Check. Magic system? Check. Town development? Credit where it's due, there is some improvement in the growth department but it is inferior overall. Unit abilities? Too few, some repeatedly used, they fail to give a sense of unit character. Hero specials? Meh. Flanking? Sure, new addition yet half-baked and unpolished. Leveling? Badly paced, that is too fast. UI? No proper paper doll, invasive elements and lots of wasted space. Adventure map movement? Badly paced, too slow. Sim turns? Not so sim when in combat. RMG? Not even possible to create new maps from ingame. Multiplayer? Last I checked with Nat it still did not work all that well. As far as I can tell, where H7 falls short it makes up for it in spikes and spiders 
Noted that all of those can be improved (eventually) but it's like pulling teeth without anesthesia. You might still get the result you want but you have to go through a lot of pain first.. And right now, all I can evaluate is what we have.
PS it sounds like H7 would be your favourite regardless of quality, simply because you are tired of the old games or because you cannot stomach old graphics anymore. And that's not exactly a comparison, just whatever you are left with.
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H5 is still alive and kicking, join us in the Duel Map discord server!
Map also hosted on Moddb
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Gryphs
Supreme Hero
The Clever Title
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posted February 22, 2016 11:35 AM |
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Edited by Gryphs at 11:35, 22 Feb 2016.
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Hermes said:
Gryphs said:
Give us something to be positive about Chris.
There you go:
1. Stable Heroes VII at the moment with no serious bugs
2. Port forwarding is in the game for easy multiplayer
3. Work still continue on Heroes VII with patch 1.7 released
4. Free DLC is released, another one is in the making
5. Colors have been adjusted since release, and game looks better than ever
6. Performance is good now
7. Devs listening to suggestions and implementing skill changes.
8. This is the best Heroes game for me and many others.
This is what I see. Again fixing things the game should have had already is not praiseworthy, and the last one, I am sorry, means nothing to me.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted February 22, 2016 11:37 AM |
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Regarding performance, I find it outrageous that it takes a few seconds to load each battle. Makes the game feel sluggish and just diminishes the game fun.
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H5 is still alive and kicking, join us in the Duel Map discord server!
Map also hosted on Moddb
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verriker
Honorable
Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
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posted February 22, 2016 11:47 AM |
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Hermes said:
There you go:
1. Stable Heroes VII at the moment with no serious bugs
2. Port forwarding is in the game for easy multiplayer
3. Work still continue on Heroes VII with patch 1.7 released
4. Free DLC is released, another one is in the making
5. Colors have been adjusted since release, and game looks better than ever
6. Performance is good now
7. Devs listening to suggestions and implementing skill changes.
8. This is the best Heroes game for me and many others.
@hermes, it was the mediocre of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of Erwin, it was the age of foolishness lol
1. Video game designed to be played can be played, five months after release
2. No easy multiplayer in the game on or near release, despite expectations (and consumer rights)
3. Teams receiving weekly salary under contract continue to abide by and prolong contract, wasting brand resources on failed project
4. ✓
5. Art direction remains fundamentally bad and incoherent since release, and game looks like cheap fan mod with 2008 level visuals
6. Performance is poor now
7. Devs did not listen to suggestions and implement skill changes during preproduction three years ago, creating irredeemable core design issues.
8. This is the worst Heroes game for me and many others.
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Hermes
Famous Hero
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posted February 22, 2016 12:15 PM |
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Edited by Hermes at 12:18, 22 Feb 2016.
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Just in case some of you guys are waiting for the reply - it's not coming. I have expressed my opinion and you are all entitled to yours.
The only thing I wanted to say, is that I adore the graphics, art direction, music and gameplay of HVII. Heroes 5 to me is hard to play due to it's art style.. Would love to see it's HD remake though.
Edit:
Just wanted to add, I also consider magic system to be great, and class/skill system too(given some variety is provided in the future patches).
I do have some gripes with the game, such as average sound design and like Elvin mentioned - momentarily loading screen when entering the battle, few others too.
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LizardWarrior
Honorable
Legendary Hero
the reckoning is at hand
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posted February 22, 2016 12:21 PM |
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You just replied, mate
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This MEGA THREAD is pages long: 
