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posted February 22, 2015 07:08 PM |
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fuChris said:
Elvin said:
That's the thing, we have come to associate vampires with sexy humanoids and dark elves with sexy black humanoids. Except ubi's dark elves are white 
I don't think I've actually ever seen a "black" darkelf anywhere.
Never heard of Drizzt Do'Urden?
Iirc. all Forgotten Realms dark elves are actually dark. When that's said, it actually makes sense for a race that lives under earth in caves to have white skin - but I guess a name like Cave Elves or Deep Elves would be more appropriate to describe them than Dark Elves.
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posted February 22, 2015 07:12 PM |
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I don't want to seem racist, but why are they called dark if they are paler than the common elves? 
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posted February 22, 2015 07:30 PM |
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alcibiades said:
fuChris said:
Elvin said:
That's the thing, we have come to associate vampires with sexy humanoids and dark elves with sexy black humanoids. Except ubi's dark elves are white
I don't think I've actually ever seen a "black" darkelf anywhere.
Never heard of Drizzt Do'Urden?
Iirc. all Forgotten Realms dark elves are actually dark. When that's said, it actually makes sense for a race that lives under earth in caves to have white skin - but I guess a name like Cave Elves or Deep Elves would be more appropriate to describe them than Dark Elves.
Yeah, D&D Drow(Dark) Elves are dark.
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posted February 22, 2015 07:48 PM |
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LizardWarrior said:
I don't want to seem racist, but why are they called dark if they are paler than the common elves?
Because they live in darkness and it is only natural for someone who has never seen the sun to be rather pale.
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posted February 22, 2015 07:56 PM |
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alcibiades said:
Iirc. all Forgotten Realms dark elves are actually dark. When that's said, it actually makes sense for a race that lives under earth in caves to have white skin - but I guess a name like Cave Elves or Deep Elves would be more appropriate to describe them than Dark Elves.
Drows are actually unique clan of Wood/Sun/whatever Elves - they were already black before they betrey their kin and went underground. Or something like that, I don't remember details right now.
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posted February 22, 2015 07:59 PM |
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i like my dark elves like i like my dwarves: the same
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posted February 22, 2015 08:03 PM |
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D'oh! I forgot about elderscroll darkelves as well. But they are not the cave dwelling kind either.
Is there any kind of pointless Ubi trivia concerning why they have pale skin or is it, as usual a warhammer ripoff thing?
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posted February 22, 2015 08:22 PM |
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fuChris said:
Is there any kind of pointless Ubi trivia concerning why they have pale skin or is it, as usual a warhammer ripoff thing?
Yes - pale skin is a result of Tuidhana's pact with Malassa.
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posted February 22, 2015 09:00 PM |
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Avonu said:
fuChris said:
Is there any kind of pointless Ubi trivia concerning why they have pale skin or is it, as usual a warhammer ripoff thing?
Yes - pale skin is a result of Tuidhana's pact with Malassa.
Is that the case?
I've always gotten the implication it's just due to lack of sunlight, from living underground all the time.
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posted February 22, 2015 09:06 PM |
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so does anyone know the behind the scenes on why the legacy of the Dungeon was basically ignored to toss in random Dark Elves?
did Nival improvise that in their lust for strippers lol, or was it just another mandate of Erwin and Richard Dansky like those Sea Elves?
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posted February 22, 2015 09:11 PM |
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so does anyone know the behind the scenes on why the legacy of the Dungeon was basically ignored to toss in random Dark Elves?
did Nival improvise that in their lust for strippers lol, or was it just another mandate of Erwin and Richard Dansky like those Sea Elves?
I couldn't tell you. I think only Marzhin might be able to.
Why the Legacy was ignored is simple. Because nearly all was, since they wanted to start something of their own.
Why Dark Elves? That could be Nival, in their "Warhammer-inspiration". It could be Erwan & Dansky. It could also be the marketing departement.
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posted February 22, 2015 09:12 PM |
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verriker said:
so does anyone know the behind the scenes on why the legacy of the Dungeon was basically ignored to toss in random Dark Elves?
did Nival improvise that in their lust for strippers lol, or was it just another mandate of Erwin and Richard Dansky like those Sea Elves?
wasn't dungeon more or less confirmed as complete WH rip-off? as in that's where they came from
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posted February 22, 2015 09:14 PM |
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wasn't dungeon more or less confirmed as complete WH rip-off? as in that's where they came from
Many things were very much "inspired" by Warhammer in H5. They didn't get a warning from Games Workshop for nothing.
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posted February 22, 2015 09:24 PM |
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Why the Legacy was ignored is simple. Because nearly all was, since they wanted to start something of their own.
I gotcha, but I would actually say the Dungeon is the only faction in the original H5 where the main race simply ignores the series legacy
you would have a hard time disagreeing that the Haven, Necro, Academy, Sylvan and Inferno have the "right" races in spirit, (well if you're feeling really pedantic you can argue that the Kreegans are replaced by Demons I guess lol), but the Dark Elves are just way out of left field for that faction, IMO
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posted February 22, 2015 09:27 PM |
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verriker said:
I gotcha, but I would actually say the Dungeon is the only faction in the original H5 where the main race simply ignores the series legacy
you would have a hard time disagreeing that the Haven, Necro, Academy, Sylvan and Inferno have the "right" races in spirit, (well if you're feeling really pedantic you can argue that the Kreegans are replaced by Demons I guess lol), but the Dark Elves are just way out of left field for that faction, IMO
I agree.
But Fortress and Sanctuary were created from scratch.
And Stronghold went from an Ogre focus to an Orc focus.
But I agree insofar as the 5 others.
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posted February 22, 2015 09:35 PM |
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Race question for H5 Dungeon could have been effortlessly and consistently answered with Minotaurs.
I guess Nival was somewhat infatuated with WH, since they really copied the WH Dark Elves.
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posted February 22, 2015 09:39 PM |
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JollyJoker said:
Race question for H5 Dungeon could have been effortlessly and consistently answered with Minotaurs.
I've been saying that for years.
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posted February 22, 2015 09:46 PM |
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posted February 22, 2015 09:48 PM |
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Stevie said:
What about Faceless?
Minotaurs did not have to be invented first.
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posted February 22, 2015 09:51 PM |
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A Minotaur faction would have been awesome! I suppose once we move past the events of Dark Messiah it may be possible to make new factions, but a lot of the Minotaur history has similar themes to the Orc history so I don't see it happening.
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