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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted November 13, 2014 10:29 AM |
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all i want is necromancers to take a bunch of random bones wherever they can find them, build the biggest, baddest weird skeleton Frankenstein's monster hybrid, give it (un-)life and release it on their enemies in a raged frenzy. Is that to much to ask?
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Shambell
Hired Hero
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posted November 13, 2014 10:37 AM |
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Yes because undeads and constructs can't be frenzied...
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted November 13, 2014 10:39 AM |
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Shambell said:
Yes because undeads and constructs can't be frenzied...
well, you know what i mean 
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Danny
Famous Hero
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posted November 15, 2014 10:42 AM |
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Since no Manticore in Dungeon, I really hope the Lamassu returns.
Maybe try a different shooter this time than the Lich?
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Gryphs
Supreme Hero
The Clever Title
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posted November 15, 2014 10:57 AM |
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The skeleton in H6 could throw his spear I believe.
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Danny
Famous Hero
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posted November 15, 2014 11:14 AM |
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And the Fate Spinner had a projectile as well. Which means the Lich wouldn't be missed at all.
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RMZ1989
Supreme Hero
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posted November 15, 2014 12:20 PM |
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Danny said:
And the Fate Spinner had a projectile as well. Which means the Lich wouldn't be missed at all.
That is if we see Fate Spinners at all. Lich is signature creature from Necropolis, same as Skeleton and Vampire, it would be strange not to include it in the lineup but if they are going to be the same as they were in H6 I wouldn't mind changing it for something else.
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EPICUSDOOMICUS
Known Hero
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posted November 15, 2014 02:18 PM |
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@Danny
No offense, mate, but I hope we do not see Lamassus in H7. At least not with a design similar to the H6 one, which imho was a disaster.
As for the Spinners (and as I have stated before I think they were a VERY nice surprise in H6 Necro), if they don't return in H7 I am totally in for something fresh and really terrifying!
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To die in battle is the greatest glory.
To choose to do so is the greatest honor!
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Steyn
Supreme Hero
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posted November 15, 2014 04:37 PM |
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If fatespinners don't return in necro, i hope that they will at least be included as (necro aligned) neutral.
Lamasus i quite liked and i can't see what was wrong with their design. However, i absolutely won't mind them replacing lamasus with as awesome new creature.
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Wellplay
Famous Hero
Poland Stronk
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posted November 15, 2014 04:51 PM |
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We won't see Lamasu & Fate Spinners cause any magical creature in this time period died.
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Danny
Famous Hero
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posted November 15, 2014 06:23 PM |
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Wellplay said:
We won't see Lamasu & Fate Spinners cause any magical creature in this time period died.
Says who? And Bone Dragons aren't magical creatures?
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Pawek_13
Supreme Hero
Maths, maths everywhere!
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posted November 15, 2014 07:36 PM |
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Danny said:
Wellplay said:
We won't see Lamasu & Fate Spinners cause any magical creature in this time period died.
Says who? And Bone Dragons aren't magical creatures?
That is not exactly what happened. Between Heroes VI and V some kind of mass extinction of creatures (probably caused by someone playing with Void ) created by the Dragon Gods (excluding the Elder Races and their children (dragons)) like Sun Horses, Glories :'( and Namtarus occured, hence they won't be seen again in Heroes VII (this is the reason why Courassiers ride normal horses). This may be also an explaination of lack of bosses in Heroes VI because they are also beings created directly by Dragon Gods (at least some of them).
With Lamasus there is a completely different story. Lamasus are a failed experiment of Wizards from house Chimera during which they joined Manticores and human beings. Lamasus have died just after they were created. Since there was quite a lot of them Necromancers took advantage of them and made Lamasus their units but Wizards are not that stupid to repeat constantly everfailing experiment so there were no more Lamasus created, hence Necromancers did not have a source of this creatures, hence Lamasus have never been seen again in Ashan.
Let's move to the last point - Bone Dragons. As mentioned before, dragons are children of Dragon Gods and mass extinction did not affect them, hence resources for Bone Dragons' production are present not that rare. The first Bone Dragon was in fact Spectral Dragon and was created by Belketh around the time of Heroes VI. Their popularity increased dramatically during Void-related disease among Necro creatures in SoD (when also Namtarus were affected) and later they replaced Namtarus completely after this mass extinction.
I hope that it explains all concerns about Lamasus, Namtarus and Bone Dragons.
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Steyn
Supreme Hero
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posted November 15, 2014 08:12 PM |
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Edited by Steyn at 20:13, 15 Nov 2014.
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And where did you get this information? I cannot remember an article on mmh7.com about this mass extinction and in heroes online glories still exist. The only thing I could find is in the description of the cuirassier, where it says that there are not many sun riders left (not all extinct though). Could you give us the source of your information?
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Pawek_13
Supreme Hero
Maths, maths everywhere!
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posted November 15, 2014 09:08 PM |
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Edited by Pawek_13 at 21:18, 15 Nov 2014.
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Steyn said:
And where did you get this information? I cannot remember an article on mmh7.com about this mass extinction and in heroes online glories still exist. The only thing I could find is in the description of the cuirassier, where it says that there are not many sun riders left (not all extinct though). Could you give us the source of your information?
The source is here and it's in Polish.
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Stormcaller
Famous Hero
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posted November 15, 2014 09:37 PM |
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I don't really want Lamasu or Fate spinner back. Lamasu has a stupid design, and fate spinner is yet another spider queen trope, bleh.
Necropolis should really be about monstrosities, not some fantasy cliches.
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Gryphs
Supreme Hero
The Clever Title
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posted November 15, 2014 10:27 PM |
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@Pawek_13
Are sure they won't just retcon or edit that information to put the units they desire?
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Pawek_13
Supreme Hero
Maths, maths everywhere!
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posted November 15, 2014 11:02 PM |
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Gryphs said:
@Pawek_13
Are sure they won't just retcon or edit that information to put the units they desire?
Well, there are no Glories and shining horses, so this certainly brings hope. 
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RMZ1989
Supreme Hero
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posted November 15, 2014 11:34 PM |
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Stormcaller said:
I don't really want Lamasu or Fate spinner back. Lamasu has a stupid design, and fate spinner is yet another spider queen trope, bleh.
Necropolis should really be about monstrosities, not some fantasy cliches.
And yet, all of Necropolis monstrosities are fantasy cliches.
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Give a man a mask, and he'll
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Darkem
Known Hero
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posted November 16, 2014 01:56 PM |
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According to recent votes we won't see Manticores in Dungeon. Does it make Lammasu a part of Necropolis line-up?
I'd be extremely pleased with such a news. What do you think?
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted November 16, 2014 02:22 PM |
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Darkem said:
According to recent votes we won't see Manticores in Dungeon. Does it make Lammasu a part of Necropolis line-up?
I'd be extremely pleased with such a news. What do you think?
It would fill an empty spot that is needed in the game, but i don't really like the lamasu. too much flesh and skin you know.
plus i like my Necropolis as free from beasts as possible, with the possible exceptions of bone dragons, skeletal mounts and various beast-bones put in a big freak construct. just beasts seems a bit... non-spooky i guess? too reliant on strength or power rather than cunning, reducing moral and numbers, which is what i liked about old school Necro.
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