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verriker
Honorable
Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
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posted January 21, 2015 08:23 AM |
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xerox said: wait so all the returning creatures in H7 Necropolis are going to be recoloured H6 units... ://
well the actual answer from Marzhin in plain English was yes, "mostly" they are, but god bless Kimarous for trying with all his might lol
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Zombi_Wizzard
Famous Hero
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posted January 21, 2015 09:23 AM |
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My opinion is, that Kimarous is in such shock over this, he became blind to reality, since he blocked it inside, and is now in a state of denial ...
Do not wory Kimarous ... I feel you
(this post is ment to be a joke, and i feel I must stress this, since in the past, my jokes were taken too seriously)
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Kimarous
Supreme Hero
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posted January 21, 2015 09:33 AM |
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Edited by Kimarous at 09:36, 21 Jan 2015.
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Zombi_Wizzard said: My opinion is, that Kimarous is in such shock over this, he became blind to reality, since he blocked it inside, and is now in a state of denial ...
Do not wory Kimarous ... I feel you
(this post is ment to be a joke, and i feel I must stress this, since in the past, my jokes were taken too seriously)
lol more like "...but I actually LIKE the H6 Necro. "
"...sans the Lamasu creatures. I hope those are replaced. Wraiths/Reapers or Dread Knights, maybe?"
"Also, at least SOME changes with the Liches unit design?"
"I like the green, but some subtlety wouldn't hurt."
"Anastasya looks fine. All pretty or all skeletal; rotting flesh sucks. In fact, all zombies are snow and I'm sick of them."
"STOP INSULTING MY AESTHETIC PREFERENCES! ;A;"
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GenyaArikado
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
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posted January 21, 2015 02:30 PM |
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Do you think we're gonna have Namtarus in this game?
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supertommy
Known Hero
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posted January 21, 2015 02:38 PM |
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Sandro400
Promising
Supreme Hero
Shadow of Death
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posted January 21, 2015 03:16 PM |
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GenyaArikado said: Do you think we're gonna have Namtarus in this game?
I think yes, in one form or another. AFAIK, they're one of the first new, creative necro creature from Ubi era, so I don't think they'll screw them.
But I hope for them as warfare unit, in order to free the space for other champions.
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Greenlore
Known Hero
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posted January 21, 2015 03:24 PM |
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I think namtarus are ok on their own(but a slightly different design would be welcome).
However I wouldn't be that sad if they don't return and we get bone dragons and reapers instead.
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frostymuaddib
Promising
Supreme Hero
育碧是白痴
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posted January 21, 2015 03:52 PM |
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Greenlore
Known Hero
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posted January 21, 2015 04:52 PM |
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Ok with spiders being in the line-up it is quite clear that namtarus are most likely out too(well I remember reading that namtarus are extinct at this part of the story anyway,so they wouldn't have made that much sense)
The question would be who is going to be in the upper tiers?
I could imagine reapers and bone dragons for champion and I doubt that liches and vampires will go,so that would leave one elite spot open.
Maybe a death knight(or something similar like a dullahan or ghost armor)?Or a return of the mummies(well mummified liches could also work)?
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moonshade
Known Hero
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posted January 21, 2015 05:03 PM |
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My opinion about Necro units..
Seems okay so far, quite predictable but ok. I'd change upg. Spider's name to Crypt/Tomb Spider, though. Also, I'd keep somehow keep Zombies as a summonable unit, perhaps existing simply as meatshields for your "real" army to deal damage. I'd also give them the ability to PERMANENTLY increase their ranks by killing living enemy units (like the old Ghosts)- balancing it by making them very weak.
Also I'd make Ghosts less fancy-looking, and scrap their shadows (they're incorporeal after all!). And thnx god for losing the green color!
For the rest of the line-up, I would put Vampire/Lich/Bone Horror at Elite, and Elder One (a horrific, Ctulhu-like winged thing more related to the Void) and Wraith (mounted on an undead horse and wielding a scythe, upg. is armored a-la Dread Knights- think LoTR's Witch King).
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Avonu
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
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posted January 21, 2015 05:23 PM |
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Greenlore said: Ok with spiders being in the line-up it is quite clear that namtarus are most likely out too(well I remember reading that namtarus are extinct at this part of the story anyway,so they wouldn't have made that much sense)
Actually Namtaru was name for huge spider (boss) in Dark Messiah. You could also see Namtaru human form statue. Now we got some sort of retcon, that connect H6's spider-ladies with DM's spider boss.
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Protolisk
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted January 21, 2015 05:43 PM |
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Hey, these aren't all that bad! Though I do hope for a different Vamp/Lich from H6, the Skeleton and Ghosts were pretty good in my eyes (barring that green overtone).
I'm just finally glad they got rid of the other humanoid core unit. I never understood why having a Zombie/Ghoul should mean much if you already had a Skeleton, or vice versa: they can both be as fast/slow/armored/sturdy as the magic that creates them dictates, so why do you need both? And, now, there's a new beast prowling around, an actual spider! Though that upgraded name's a bit bland... More Noun-Nouning, and probably the most bland of just adding "death" onto it... Why can't there be a more mythological spider to draw from? It'd make them more interesting at least. Even without that, at least call them Tomb Spiders or something, because "Death Spider" is like calling a knight who brings death a "death knight"... All knights bring death. And a lot of spiders bring death.
Hoping the elites are at least as interesting, if not more so.
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted January 21, 2015 05:47 PM |
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Some of these names don't exactly roll off the tongue.
Namely the Skeleton Hoplite & Ebon Spider.
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EPICUSDOOMICUS
Known Hero
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posted January 21, 2015 05:51 PM |
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Where are all the people that were whining and cursing about "too much green" till some hours ago?
If devs don't overdo it with purple, Necro is likely to be ok.
As for spiders, I don't get excited nor disappointed till I see their movement, skills, stats etc. I sure prefer those to ghouls and zombies, which I always found boring and more or less useless, personally.
I still hope for Spinners/Weavers/Namtarus (whatever the name they'll give them) to return.
Time will tell. Let's just hope Necros will turn out to be one of the best factions once again.
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To choose to do so is the greatest honor!
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Avirosb
Promising
Legendary Hero
No longer on vacation
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posted January 21, 2015 06:01 PM |
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You think we'll see a HoMM miniature tabletop wargame soon?
Given the action-figure proportions and fancy unit design I mean?
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Stormcaller
Famous Hero
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posted January 21, 2015 06:20 PM |
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Dissappointed that they once again put ghosts in core creatures, and whats even worse, they look almost indentical to h6 ghosts. Meh.
Skeletons seem okay and spiders seem okay as well.
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Sandro400
Promising
Supreme Hero
Shadow of Death
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posted January 21, 2015 06:30 PM |
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Avirosb said: You think we'll see a HoMM miniature tabletop wargame soon?
Given the action-figure proportions and fancy unit design I mean?
Like Warhammer? Giving some whining auditory one more reason to whine about "they copied it from Warhammer!"?
On a serious note, we already have standard tabletop game (though for Poland only AFAIK), so there's a possibility of Heroes wargame. I'll definitely buy such a game.
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cleglaw
Famous Hero
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posted January 21, 2015 06:37 PM |
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im very suprised after yesterdays green-all-over-twilight-necro.
good overall, but there are somethings bugging me: whats kind of weapon is skeleton using? it looks retardishly too-curvy to backwards. also his armor... i mean they are not supposed to be fully epic armored, afterall, they will get pretty easyly wasted and raised all the time isnt this weird?
i liked spiders look and glad to have some fressh take on necro, but i ll also miss zombies if they dont show up in game.
about ghost, although i like h6 ghost, i like h3 wraiths much much more. it could be much better to get those brown clothed flying skeletal beings with a ghostly rework.
.. anyway, praise the gods we got rid of those stupid toxic green..
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Stormcaller
Famous Hero
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posted January 21, 2015 06:40 PM |
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My issue with skeletons is that they basically look like an elite unit with their fancy armor and fancy shield. They are not elites, they are supposed to be cannon fodder that comes in waves at the enemy. They should look like cannon fodder should look like. Rusty weapons, rusty punctured armor and definitely not have purple gems on their shield.
They could have gave their bones a colour that bones usually have, and left the rusty armor black, perhaps with some kind of black/red aura.
And agreed on the sword. It's like they can't decide wether it's supposed to be a sword or a sickle, lol. I'd go with a spear personally.
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Pawek_13
Supreme Hero
Maths, maths everywhere!
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posted January 21, 2015 06:41 PM |
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Edited by Pawek_13 at 18:41, 21 Jan 2015.
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cleglaw said: im very suprised after yesterdays green-all-over-twilight-necro.
good overall, but there are somethings bugging me: whats kind of weapon is skeleton using? it looks retardishly too-curvy to backwards.
He got a sickle. Some unit in Necro's elite will get a hammer. You know what that means... COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA!11111!one1!one
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