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frostymuaddib
Promising
Supreme Hero
育碧是白痴
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posted August 26, 2015 05:26 PM |
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Although I gave my key to friend, he received another one and gave it to me, so we can play online. I guess I will give it a try. FIrst imression: this is polished Heroes 6, not a new game...
One question: when we were playing 1v1, sim turns, I was ablo to see his battles (every time he attacked something), and vice versa. Is this feature or a bug?
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted August 26, 2015 05:29 PM |
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Fixed, thanks.
Prepare for my feedback now.
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted August 26, 2015 05:35 PM |
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I shall start streaming once I've had dinner.
so far, loading title screen is taking an age.
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It is with a heavy heart that I must announce that the cis are at it again.
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Pawek_13
Supreme Hero
Maths, maths everywhere!
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posted August 26, 2015 05:35 PM |
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frostymuaddib said: One question: when we were playing 1v1, sim turns, I was ablo to see his battles (every time he attacked something), and vice versa. Is this feature or a bug?
I don't think it should happen. You should report it on the site.
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Ubi-Nox
Shaper of Lore
M&M Community Developer, Ubisoft
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posted August 26, 2015 05:42 PM |
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Pawek_13 said:
frostymuaddib said: One question: when we were playing 1v1, sim turns, I was ablo to see his battles (every time he attacked something), and vice versa. Is this feature or a bug?
I don't think it should happen. You should report it on the site.
Hello guys,
this is what you want it to be!
Jokes aside, this is at the moment "as designed" but we are not sure whether to keep this feature or not for the final game (maybe as an option). Indeed this allow you to reduce passivity during enemies turn but in the meantime you can see all their armies and strategies... (not really my thing on personal point of view)
Please let us know what you think of this “feature” during the beta and we will see if we keep this or not afterward
Thx.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted August 26, 2015 05:43 PM |
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Edited by Stevie at 17:45, 26 Aug 2015.
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frostymuaddib said: One question: when we were playing 1v1, sim turns, I was ablo to see his battles (every time he attacked something), and vice versa. Is this feature or a bug?
That's a feature which will be included in the vanilla. Along with auto-skilling pizzas, self-constructing towns and other mind-boggling stuff. There you have it, my NDA is completely broken now and I don't even care anymore.
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Guide to a Great Heroes Game
The Young Traveler
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frostymuaddib
Promising
Supreme Hero
育碧是白痴
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posted August 26, 2015 05:45 PM |
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Stevie said:
frostymuaddib said: One question: when we were playing 1v1, sim turns, I was ablo to see his battles (every time he attacked something), and vice versa. Is this feature or a bug?
That's a feature which will be included in the vanilla. Along with auto-skilling pizzas, self-constructing towns and other mind-boggling stuff. There you have it, my NDA is completely broken now but I don't even care anymore.
This was from the start??? Really? Wow... I am speachless...
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TD
Promising
Famous Hero
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posted August 26, 2015 05:46 PM |
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@Ubi-Nox
That kind of "feature" should only be allowed for viewing team-mates play. You should never be able to see your enemy fighting like that IMO.
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted August 26, 2015 05:46 PM |
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Man, Stevie really snapped after all.
Everything will autofill for players? Really?
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frostymuaddib
Promising
Supreme Hero
育碧是白痴
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posted August 26, 2015 05:47 PM |
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If you ask me, that feature shouldn't even exist...
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verriker
Honorable
Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
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posted August 26, 2015 05:48 PM |
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Ubi-Nox said: Please let us know what you think of this “feature” during the beta and we will see if we keep this or not afterward
er yes I think maybe it might be good for this competitive turn-based strategy game if the competition was not allowed to know what your strategy is at all times, lol
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EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
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posted August 26, 2015 05:51 PM |
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Man, this is so funny; from a reskinned treant as a warfare unit (as well as bush ballista), through H7 beta being branded as a virus and now this feature to show the enemy's movements!
I mean, why would one want to see how AI battles? Not only that, it also means that you can see the enemy hero's skills, spells and army. And we see before our own eyes "the future of Heroes".
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Pawek_13
Supreme Hero
Maths, maths everywhere!
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posted August 26, 2015 05:53 PM |
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Edited by Pawek_13 at 18:00, 26 Aug 2015.
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Storm-Giant said: Man, Stevie really snapped after all.
Everything will autofill for players? Really?
Why should we care? This is just an option, so if someone doesn't want to utilize it, then he doesn't have to. If they implement it, then there seems to be a market for such features. I don't understand how it can be used by anyone - playing by yourself is always better - but as long as no-one forces me to play in such a way, then why bother?
Regarding the feature of seeing opponents battles - this should become an option, as many players would consider this to be an oversimplification of the game.
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verriker
Honorable
Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
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posted August 26, 2015 05:57 PM |
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Edited by verriker at 17:58, 26 Aug 2015.
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Pawek_13 said: Why should we care? This is just an option, so if someone doesn't want to utilize it, then he doesn't have to. If they implement it, then there seems to be a market for such features. I don't understand how it can be used by anyone - playing by yourself is always better - but as long as no-one forces me to play in such a way, then why bother?
oh come on now dude seriously, why would they even design things as nonsensical as these let alone go ahead and implement them lol
it's freaking "press X to win"-tier game design lol
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Ubi-Nox
Shaper of Lore
M&M Community Developer, Ubisoft
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posted August 26, 2015 05:59 PM |
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Edited by Ubi-Nox at 17:59, 26 Aug 2015.
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Well I just wanted to know if you wanted this as a possible option, feel sorry it created such reactions.
Thx for the feedback, I guess we have our answer.
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frostymuaddib
Promising
Supreme Hero
育碧是白痴
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posted August 26, 2015 05:59 PM |
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Also, another thing that is irritating: resource income display. At the start of every turn, there is a counter that goes from zero to number of received resources, and only after that finishes, display for your resources is updated. So, basically, you have to wait fora few seconds until you can see your current resources. Just show the correct number at the start of every turn...
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EnergyZ
Legendary Hero
President of MM Wiki
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posted August 26, 2015 06:00 PM |
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verriker said:
Pawek_13 said: Why should we care? This is just an option, so if someone doesn't want to utilize it, then he doesn't have to. If they implement it, then there seems to be a market for such features. I don't understand how it can be used by anyone - playing by yourself is always better - but as long as no-one forces me to play in such a way, then why bother?
oh come on now dude seriously, why would they even design things as nonsensical as these let alone go ahead and implement them lol
it's freaking "press X to win"-tier game design lol
And yet, how much time and money was spent on making this feature?
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kiryu133
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Highly illogical
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posted August 26, 2015 06:01 PM |
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OMG, WE'LL ACTUALLY HAVE SOME INFLUENCE!!!!
Ok, stream might be ready
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It is with a heavy heart that I must announce that the cis are at it again.
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted August 26, 2015 06:08 PM |
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Pawek_13 said: Why should we care? This is just an option, so if someone doesn't want to utilize it, then he doesn't have to. If they implement it, then there seems to be a market for such features. I don't understand how it can be used by anyone - playing by yourself is always better - but as long as no-one forces me to play in such a way, then why bother?
Regarding the feature of seeing opponents battles - this should become an option, as many players would consider this to be an oversimplification of the game.
Man, at this point, is this even a strategy game or what? Thinking is a requirement, not an option which you can compensate by auto-filling. Like, we're getting all this mantra about limited time and budget, but they make these sort of features that even from a theoretical point of view are anti-strategy and counter-intuitive? That's just inexcusable man.
And before it catches on, that self-constructing town and NDA parts specifically were just a fluke. Cuz I need a goddamn distraction at this point to keep myself sane.
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Guide to a Great Heroes Game
The Young Traveler
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PandaTar
Responsible
Legendary Hero
Celestial Heavens Mascot
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posted August 26, 2015 06:09 PM |
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frostymuaddib said: If you ask me, that feature shouldn't even exist...
Perhaps if you ask anyone?
How come that you can see that? It's (another) utter nonsense. So you simply know your enemy so well, better than unexplored places, even if the other player is far to the East, over ranges and rivers, beyond woodlands and wastelands, lying in wait of a surprising adventure and enemies which he simply saw each of their battles, with their mind's eye?
I'm actually surprised that this game had another bizarre thing to surprise me at all.
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"Okay. Look. We both said a lot of things that you're going to regret. But I think we can put our differences behind us. For science. You monster."
GlaDOS – Portal 2
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