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JollyJoker
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posted April 06, 2022 02:24 PM |
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Good thing, that, since you've got nothing to say anyway, as we have already established.
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AlexSpl
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posted April 06, 2022 07:20 PM |
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Edited by AlexSpl at 19:27, 06 Apr 2022.
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In the eyes of Russian people is the thought of justice. Don't think that most Russians understand what their government is doing. They are just people after all, some of them are just stupid peasants (sorry, Peasants from HoMM, though you know you are not fearsome warriors, too), some read books, some have PhD, like in any country. What we see now is a desperate try to concentrate on what we have now, rather than on things which made all this possible. Russians, young Russians, just don't understand the hell the USSR was, can't compare this heaven on Earth with that Hell their parents lived not so long ago. Those, who want to live in the authoritarian country (yes, I believe there are many supporters of authoritarianism in Russia), cannot understand the real consequences of their wishes. They take all the prosperity of Russia for granted, and I doubt they really understand whom they should be grateful for it, for including Russia to the international family despite its former sins.
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AlexSpl
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posted April 06, 2022 07:36 PM |
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Edited by AlexSpl at 19:38, 06 Apr 2022.
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I was a witness of the collapse of the USSR. And I don't remember a single man or woman who would mourn it. I remember only the joy, the joy that it all ended finally. Yes, there were harsh times after this but those that were comparable with what we already had in 1988-89. I grew up in poverty anyway, so I didn't notice anything except the newfound freedom and shared hopes for the brighter future of my country.
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AlexSpl
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posted April 06, 2022 08:06 PM |
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Edited by AlexSpl at 20:09, 06 Apr 2022.
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The most annoying part of the USSR was that everyone tried to give you advises how you should live or what you should do. You know, probably, that you could't dodge those "advices" in the USSR. And you, probably know, that the real translation of the USSR is "the unted state of Advises"  I remember that fear of becoming a pioneer. That organization felt so artificial. But you couldn't escape "your fate" in those times anyway, even after the collapse of the USSR I was accepted to the Belorusian pioneers with White-Red-White badge (how ironical) No one then was against this flag. But then the sleeping communists in Russia woke up and once again chose the path to the dead end.
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ihor
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Accidental Hero
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posted April 07, 2022 02:18 PM |
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Interesting fact. A few weeks ago there were a lot of messages about Russians who decided to dig trenches near Chernobyl nuclear plant. I thought those were fake news because, well, they couldn't be so dumb. Apparently they did it. I hope that commander will get a medal or something, well deserved.
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Ghost
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Therefore I am
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posted April 07, 2022 03:14 PM |
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Because of communist male and Nazi female are causal lovemaking too often, later on communist male and Nazi female are loving, and then communist husband and Nazi wife got Z baby.
Yes red forest..
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Baronus
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posted April 07, 2022 05:41 PM |
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Russian type of horde completly didnt care about human life. And additionaly its postcommunist country so we have full horror.
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Ben80
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posted April 08, 2022 07:17 AM |
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Ben80
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posted April 08, 2022 11:34 AM |
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Edited by Ben80 at 11:40, 08 Apr 2022.
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Who sees the world and how.
At the same time, evaluate the expectations of filmmakers on the intellectual level of the audience.
For capitalists, aliens are hostile xenomorphs, vile, dangerous, bringing death and destruction, with whom it is impossible to negotiate, reconcile, they only need to be killed. In the USSR, such xenophobia was not imposed.
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angelito
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proud father of a princess
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posted April 08, 2022 11:41 AM |
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Edited by angelito at 11:49, 08 Apr 2022.
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E.T.
Alf
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It is very easy to just post results which fit best to the own opinion 
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Kipshasz
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posted April 08, 2022 02:37 PM |
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now do the cartoon one Benny boy, that one is especially hilarious.
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"Ashan to the Trashcan", "I got PTSD from H7. " - LizardWarrior
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AlexSpl
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posted April 08, 2022 06:23 PM |
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2Ben80: I don't disagree with the fact that some Soviet films were cultivating beliefs in humanity, emphasized the value of the bright side of man. But I, without doubt, choose Hollywood movies about the same things. There are many of them, too. And, if you remember, Russia was making movies about gangster romance, a very popular theme in those times it was, indeed. At least, on TV those series were very popular and some of them even considered iconic even now. So, it's Hollywood that was "good" on TV screens, not Russia.
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Ben80
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posted April 08, 2022 06:36 PM |
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@AlexSpl,
No you are not right. I'm talking about the USSR, not Russia.
In Russia, I know, perhaps, only one film that romanticized crime - this is "The Brigade". And there were many such films in the USA. What is Bonnie and Clyde worth. While the vast majority of modern Russian films romanticize law enforcement officers.
So you, as always, refute yourself with your fanaticism.
Your hatred for the one and your pathetic devotion to the other (alien) blind you.
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AlexSpl
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posted April 08, 2022 06:47 PM |
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Do you miss something? I said, I liked, enjoyed, whatever, some of Soviet films, and think they are good.
About the USSR's vs Russian movies. Do you want to say that the people who called themselves Soviet citizens and those who lived after its collapse are not the same people? I guess, you deny the whole 90's of Russia. But if you think twice, you will understand that those were exactly the people who lived before 90's 
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Ben80
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posted April 08, 2022 06:48 PM |
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AlexSpl said:
I was a witness of the collapse of the USSR. And I don't remember a single man or woman who would mourn it.
You could guess to know about the results of the referendum for the preservation of the USSR in 1991 - there are data for all Soviet republics. Most people were for the preservation of the USSR. And on March 10, 1991, a rally was held in Moscow for the preservation of the USSR - about half a million people (the most massive rally in the history of the USSR and Russia).
AlexSpl said:
They take all the prosperity of Russia for granted,
and I doubt they really understand whom they should be grateful for it, for including Russia to the international family despite its former sins.
All you have to do is take off your pants and bend down.
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Kipshasz
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posted April 08, 2022 06:55 PM |
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AlexSpl said:
2Ben80: I don't disagree with the fact that some Soviet films were cultivating beliefs in humanity, emphasized the value of the bright side of man. But I, without doubt, choose Hollywood movies about the same things. There are many of them, too. And, if you remember, Russia was making movies about gangster romance, a very popular theme in those times it was, indeed. At least, on TV those series were very popular and some of them even considered iconic even now. So, it's Hollywood that was "good" on TV screens, not Russia.
I disagree. Russian crime films don't romanticise organised crime, the same way Godfather or Scorcese films do.
'Brother', 'Bumer' and the rest of them aren't really romantic, as the protagonists don't really have any good times shown, or very little of them.
That said, self depreciating humor is what russian film makers are best at.
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"Ashan to the Trashcan", "I got PTSD from H7. " - LizardWarrior
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AlexSpl
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posted April 08, 2022 06:58 PM |
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All you have to do is take off your pants and bend down.
OK, had the USSR an alternative? Yet another 30-40-50 years of poverty on the doubtful path to communism? The USSR terminated it itself, by its ignorant rulers, economic inefficiency, awful attitude towards their own citizens and their freedoms, by its path to isolation. You cannot defend the USSR, but I doubt you will be as happy as you know without all those amenities that we received after the removal of the iron curtain. You are just an ungrateful person. And stubborn, besides.
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Ben80
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posted April 08, 2022 07:06 PM |
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Edited by Ben80 at 19:09, 08 Apr 2022.
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AlexSpl said:
OK, had the USSR an alternative? Yet another 30-40-50 years of poverty on the doubtful path to communism?
These are very interesting things, but there is no point in discussing them with you. you simply do not have a sufficient base for such conversations, but are trying to judge something. However, most people are the same (almost all men like to talk about politics).
(in fact, no one could prove their point of view on these issues, there can only be assumptions).
AlexSpl said:
You are just an ungrateful person.
I'm sorry, but respect can be gained, but it can also be lost. This is how life works, am I to blame for this ?
AlexSpl said:
You cannot defend the USSR
To protect the USSR means to protect the future. Of all mankind.
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AlexSpl
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posted April 08, 2022 07:14 PM |
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These are very interesting things, but there is no point in discussing them with you. you simply do not have a sufficient base for such conversations, but are trying to judge something.
Well, now I doubt you do have "a sufficient base". You just keep saying that all the others are fools and only you know "the hidden truth". Englighten us then, please. Or you think we don't deserve it? Also you dodged the question of the future of the USSR. Now you want back. Well, you want back *after* the West helped Russia to rise from its knees? That is what I call ungratefulness.
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Ben80
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posted April 08, 2022 07:21 PM |
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AlexSpl said:
"the hidden truth"
She is not hidden. Those who are interested in the social sciences are constantly discussing the past, present, and future. These are days and years of thinking and other work. How can I explain something to you in a few posts? Subscribe in social networks to the relevant thematic groups. And for some reason you want to find out all this on the Heroes forum.
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