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AlexSpl
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posted April 08, 2022 11:27 PM |
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As for Russian language. It, too, cannot boast of its uniqueness. Yes, it's quite unique language and very consistent, but it should say thanks to ancient languages as well, and to French for 19th century.
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AlexSpl
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posted April 08, 2022 11:33 PM |
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Edited by AlexSpl at 23:36, 08 Apr 2022.
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You've probably heard of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. So, in some sense we were Lithuanized, Polonized. Yes, it's fact. Belorusians don't have to learn Ukrainian to understand, and vice versa. But Russian people hardly would catch even 50% of meaning.
Also. Knowing Belorusian I understand Polish people as well. Not so good as Ukrainians though. Slavic languages are very similar. And only Russians can't understand their brothers languages  This is a fact.
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Ben80
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posted April 09, 2022 06:11 AM |
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AlexSpl said:
but.. he sounds like a sectant, or alike.
Sorry, but it sounds like sectarianism to the layman. The layman probably has not read Francis Fukuyama ("The End of History"), but looks on the world in accordance with his idea of ​​the coming end of history. For those who are interested in the social sciences, it is obvious that there is no end to history, on the contrary, everything is just beginning (the Western world order is collapsing before our eyes). In fact, it would be very interesting if in some small "Russian" country (to west of Russia) built a democratic and prosperous society in which people life would be good. Indeed, as an alternative to imperial Russia, but, of course, not as "anti-Russia."
In reality, the West will not allow them to build such a good country, It will surely direct the development of such countries towards "anti-Russia". You may not believe me (I know that you have rose-colored glasses), but it's true.
I'll try to explain to you about communism-socialism. In fact, this is a European project (author - K. Marx), which Russia began to implement. The contradictions of the capitalist system led to 2 possible answers - 1) fascism 2) socialism. At the beginning of the 20th century, in many countries of Eastern Europe, these 2 projects fought with each other, (without any participation of the USSR),
fascism won almost everywhere. After World War II, the authority of socialism grew very strongly, in Eastern Europe communist parties began to come to power (with support of the USSR), then together we tried to build a better world. We got something, we didn't. But in the end things fell apart. After that, the countries of Eastern Europe did very badly - they pretended that the USSR was to blame for everything, and that it had driven everyone into the system of the socialist camp by force. It is not true. Remember, from Malchish-Kibalchish - "yes, I'm mine, bourgeois" ("svoj, burjuinskiy") ?
By the way, interesting links about the technical achievements of the USSR. I think you will be interested, because there is quite a lot about IT.
http://znatech.ru/proekty/interaktivnyj_institut_sssr/tehnologii_po_kotorym_zapad_ne_dognal_sssr/
http://znatech.ru/proekty/rodnoe_gosudarstvo/sovetskie_gidravlicheskie_kompyutery_dlya_chego_oni_sozdavalis_i_kak_rabotali/
http://znatech.ru/proekty/interaktivnyj_institut_sssr/magazin-avtomat_progress_skazochnye_tehnologii_v_sovetskom_ritejle/
http://znatech.ru/proekty/interaktivnyj_institut_sssr/sovetskij_umnyj_dom_buduwego/
http://znatech.ru/proekty/rodnoe_gosudarstvo/vrd_-_sovetskij_izobretatel_gorohov_pridumal_komp_yuter_ewe_do_stiva_dzhobsa/
http://znatech.ru/proekty/rodnoe_gosudarstvo/tragediya_sovetskogo_interneta/
http://znatech.ru/proekty/rodnoe_gosudarstvo/bitva_za_superkomp_yuter/
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Gandalf196
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posted April 09, 2022 03:48 PM |
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ihor
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posted April 10, 2022 01:40 PM |
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Ben80
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posted April 10, 2022 07:30 PM |
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Shepherd Alice ran away from the Ukrainian punishers into the trench to the Ivanovo paratroopers.
You can't fool children and animals.
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JollyJoker
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posted April 10, 2022 09:12 PM |
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purerogue
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posted April 11, 2022 07:29 PM |
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AlexSpl
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posted April 11, 2022 07:39 PM |
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I think it's not a proper use of the word "virtual". It's a real talk, allowed by modern technologies.
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By the way, interesting links about the technical achievements of the USSR. I think you will be interested, because there is quite a lot about IT.
This site isn't better than tabloids. It's one thing to invent something useful, another thing is to make sure that millions of people could use it. Geniuses don't know artificial borders. So, you can't really say that some nation has more geniuses than another one. Just another instrument of propaganda, like sports.
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Ghost
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posted April 11, 2022 08:00 PM |
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Genius?
Why Russia didn't do things..
Genius takes the first gold, money and currency back to their country, and then attack to Ukraine.. 
Other genius propaganda was weak in the USSR ice hockey.. In USSR propaganda said the world's strong, but true.. USSR didn't trust themselves..
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Ben80
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posted April 11, 2022 08:04 PM |
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I thought you would be glad to see such interesting things, but again the hatred of your own people blinds you.
AlexSpl said:
So, you can't really say that some nation has more geniuses than another one. Just another instrument of propaganda, like sports.
Why do you think I meant it? Then it's better to end it, you're hopeless.
The irony of fate is that you condemn the national traits of Russians, but you yourself are just the bearer of a rather striking lack of Russians - admiration for the foreign and disbelief in your own strength.
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AlexSpl
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posted April 11, 2022 08:21 PM |
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I don't say that all these things aren't real. I just prefer to be thankful to those people which inventions made my personal life more confortable. We are, in the first place, humans. And we are bound to be one great and strong family when people will understand that it's not a good idea to put sticks in the wheels of human progress.
Actually, because of such guys as you, wars are possible at all.
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posted April 11, 2022 08:30 PM |
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Ben80 said:
Shepherd Alice ran away from the Ukrainian punishers into the trench to the Ivanovo paratroopers.
You can't fool children and animals.
Boy, this is beyond dumb.
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JollyJoker
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posted April 11, 2022 08:37 PM |
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AlexSpl
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posted April 11, 2022 08:47 PM |
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Sometimes I think dogs are more human than we are. They are just dogs despite their differencies. But, hey, look at us - we want to be more human than other humans. I understand that this is the nature's choice for us to be competitive. But we aren't the nature, whichever plans it has for us. Who said the ancient Egypt is in the past. It was just transformed. We are still building pyramids for pharaohs.
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AlexSpl
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posted April 11, 2022 10:01 PM |
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I think Medvedev will be the next president of Russia. Actually I think he is more intelligent man than Putin. He's young enough to love this life and understands the price of peace. We cannot escalate this further. It's already fubar. Make this world normal again. We have a HUGE problem already. Why I write this? He said that he doesn't want to isolate Russia from the international community, still he, obviosly, supports Putin. But it's already a small step towards peace. And definitely better what we have now.
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Ben80
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posted April 12, 2022 08:19 AM |
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AlexSpl said:
I just prefer to be thankful to those people which inventions made my personal life more confortable.
If you are talking about commodities, then in those days great things were produced in Eastern Europe. That is, the USSR mainly provided products of heavy industry, Eastern Europe - of light industry. It was a reasonable specialization within a common economic community.
So when you talk about the need to be grateful, then this is complete nonsense, because we had everything we needed. The problems began when the Soviet elite itself began to maliciously destroy the country and the socialist camp as a whole. By the way, in the late 80s I played excellent board games of domestic production.
Therefore, one should not be like the native to whom the white man first showed glass beads.
When we talk about the economy as a whole, it is wrong to separate commodities from more fundamental things. It's just one whole.
Do you know that in many European cities there is still no centralized heating system? You're talking about convenience, but is it inconvenient?
Maybe after all you are ungrateful, since you do not appreciate what we have since the times of the USSR? Many epidemics were first defeated in the USSR. Don't you want to be thankful that you didn't get sick?
By the way, in our tanks already in the middle of the 20th century, an automatic loading system for guns was introduced. NATO still does not, as far as I understand, there is an additional person in the crew who manually loads. How about amenities?
AlexSpl said:
And we are bound to be one great and strong family when people will understand that it's not a good idea to put sticks in the wheels of human progress.
To learn more about this, read Soviet science fiction. Capitalist society is always wars and inhibition of progress.
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posted April 12, 2022 11:23 AM |
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In addition to Kasparov's quote that Gootch posted a week ago, here's a more recent TED talk of him. Entertaining as TED talk should be, but on a serious topic, and I can't disagree with Garry.
Like many of us, this guy was also born in the USSR and he knows few things how life was back then, repeating Reagan and directly calling it an "Evil Empire". This TED talk also touches black and white in politics and compromises with dictators that we also discussed in this thread before. Happy watching 
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Ben80
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posted April 12, 2022 12:51 PM |
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Edited by Ben80 at 13:39, 12 Apr 2022.
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It is interesting to look at the data on the "human development index".
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Development_Index)
In 1990:
USSR 25th place
Czechoslovakia 24th place
Bulgaria 26th place
Hungary 29th place
Poland 32nd place
Romania 40th place
Now:
Russia 52nd place
Czech 27th place
Bulgaria 56th place
Hungary 40th place
Poland 35th place
Romania 49th place
It can be assumed that capitalism did not benefit these countries. So who and for what should be grateful, AlexSpl?
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Kipshasz
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posted April 12, 2022 03:33 PM |
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This is getting funnier by each of comrade ben's posts.
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"Kip is the Gavin McInnes of HC" - Salamandre
"Ashan to the Trashcan", "I got PTSD from H7. " - LizardWarrior
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