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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted January 21, 2023 08:29 PM

Solution to what? We must first define what's not working, yet I am 100% sure locking homosexuals and jews won't fix it.

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phe
phe


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Life and Freedom
posted January 21, 2023 09:40 PM
Edited by phe at 21:44, 21 Jan 2023.

Salamandre said:
Solution to what? We must first define what's not working, yet I am 100% sure locking homosexuals and jews won't fix it.

depriving bad and non-productive people voting right, right to be state official or even equality or other inflence on authorities by lobbing or financial support of politicians would help a lot....

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fred79
fred79


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posted January 21, 2023 10:27 PM

sal, you're in france, right? french people protest a lot, right? weren't there over a million protestors in the streets a day or so ago, regarding the retirement age bs your puppet leaders are trying to push so their jewish overlords can milk more work and money out of actual residents to pay for more culture-destroying illegals?

where are you in all this? just playing your piano? ignoring the french who are actually putting skin in the game?

you "giving up" on me, wasn't addressing a single goddamn thing i said. facts, sal. not bs, but facts.


1. give me YOUR take on that gif i posted of your current leader, a PRESIDENT, being man-handled by the leader of the french adl, which is JUST a jewish organization.

2. did you check out what the french adl, and jews in general, are saying about illegal immigration into your country? no? WHY THE snow NOT?

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Drakon-Deus
Drakon-Deus


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Qapla'
posted January 22, 2023 04:39 AM
Edited by Drakon-Deus at 06:06, 22 Jan 2023.

phe said:
Salamandre said:
Solution to what? We must first define what's not working

depriving bad and non-productive people voting right, right to be state official or even equality or other inflence on authorities by lobbing or financial support of politicians would help a lot....


I agree with phe.
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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted January 22, 2023 06:15 AM

Who are the bad and non productive people? Who decides who they are?

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Drakon-Deus
Drakon-Deus


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posted January 22, 2023 07:58 AM

I would say more, but I'll let Phe handle this. Sal, you and I can talk more when we meet in person. It will be a pleasure.
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artu
artu


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My BS sensor is tingling again
posted January 22, 2023 08:25 AM

Salamandre said:
Who are the bad and non productive people? Who decides who they are?

Well, judging by the fact that his idea of productivity is building space farms to grow tomatoes, I guess we can all hit the jackpot.

I would have objected by saying "dont you think it woud be a little expensive to transport them" but he also believes there is a hidden teleportation technology so....
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phe
phe


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Life and Freedom
posted January 22, 2023 09:02 AM
Edited by phe at 09:13, 22 Jan 2023.

Salamandre said:
Who are the bad and non productive people? Who decides who they are?

Bad people are those who hurt other people by crime, lying, insults,  corruption, sexual abusement etc...
Non-productive people are those don't work or are supported by the state or working in red tape (paid from state's budget) and aren't at all needed or are needed in much less numbers
so all state officials, clerks, politicians, government workers,  their security, public services, public education, pensioners, people getting social benefits
also army which could be replaced by automatized defence systems and mass pro-gun mobilization of good people
also policemen who would be needed in much less numbers if criminality is eradicated; there would be no road traffic to control; many other their task could be conducted by robots like in Star Wars; when we introduce antigravity every man could be always be accompanied by flying drone registring everything around so there will be no place for crime and demand for police service would be scant(that means also less people in justice and less lawyers)
the same with fire brigade service teleportation of fire distiguishing unit to every possible place or rescue/cutting car, plane, antigravity vehicle who had accident/crash or whole crash site would be teleported  to specialized robotized place
the same with with ambulance, antigravity or teleportation to the place or from the place to hospital(also for life guards in mountains, beaches, swimming places etc)
also trades becoming obsolete we can count non-productive so mentioned red tape workers, also miners, mettalurgists, farmers, teachers(to be replaced by free all level education conducted by AI like in Halo - Fall of the Reach), drivers, pilots, sailors, constructions, road and bridges workers, physicians(to be replaced by automatized telekinetic healing and robots), oil industry, power plants wokers etc...        


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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted January 22, 2023 10:27 AM

What if a country doesn't have teleport in its guild?

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phe
phe


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Life and Freedom
posted January 22, 2023 10:38 AM

Salamandre said:
What if a country doesn't have teleport in its guild?

technologies become common known in time...

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JollyJoker
JollyJoker


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posted January 22, 2023 07:57 PM

phe said:

Bad people are those who hurt other people by crime, lying, insults,  corruption, sexual abusement etc...        



You forgot a few, so let me quote you:

phe said:

- they are trying to spoil people(by supporing, tolerating, implementing things unworthy of man: abortion, homosexualism, crime, corruption, pedophilia, prostitution, sexual abusement and others) to make them not dangerous and make them voters, supporters and sexual object


Relevant parts in bold print

Another hopeful Hitler wannabe. *Sigh*

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Ghost
Ghost


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Therefore I am
posted January 22, 2023 08:01 PM

And prostitution isn't a problem.. Believe me! Phe is a religious guy..

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phe
phe


Famous Hero
Life and Freedom
posted January 22, 2023 08:26 PM
Edited by phe at 20:41, 22 Jan 2023.

JollyJoker said:
phe said:

Bad people are those who hurt other people by crime, lying, insults,  corruption, sexual abusement etc...        


You forgot a few, so let me quote you:
phe said:

- they are trying to spoil people(by supporing, tolerating, implementing things unworthy of man: abortion, homosexualism, crime, corruption, pedophilia, prostitution, sexual abusement and others) to make them not dangerous and make them voters, supporters and sexual object

Relevant parts in bold print
Another hopeful Hitler wannabe. *Sigh*

and you there apart from these bold shameful facts with these attitude tolerate pedophile brothels, where you can snow, kill or even eat children; babies/children trafficing for body spare parts, dissapearing Syrian children and so on...seems your are collective of degenarated Hilters...insensitive for suffering of children being torn apart; insensitive for corruption resulting for homosexual cliques nad their bad manners...  
and I'm first of all objective, however worshiping Sun...

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Ghost
Ghost


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Therefore I am
posted January 22, 2023 09:11 PM
Edited by Ghost at 21:13, 22 Jan 2023.

Crime is crime.. No brothel..

Why a problem?

1.) Religion
2.) Human trafficing
3.) Underaged buyer
4.) Price and tax

So crime and religion are using wrong..

I agree escort, brothel.. No street-walker.. Because licence, tax, etc

Without crime, so sex industry is freedom.. Do you know your pension company invests your money in porn?

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phe
phe


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Life and Freedom
posted January 22, 2023 10:36 PM

Ghost said:
Crime is crime.. No brothel..
Why a problem?
1.) Religion
2.) Human trafficing
3.) Underaged buyer
4.) Price and tax
So crime and religion are using wrong..
I agree escort, brothel.. No street-walker.. Because licence, tax, etc
Without crime, so sex industry is freedom.. Do you know your pension company invests your money in porn?


Ghosts swears: no prostitute was ever a criminal nor her clients...

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ArdentWyrm
ArdentWyrm


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King of the Elder Dragons
posted January 22, 2023 11:26 PM

fred79 said:
where are you in all this? just playing your piano? ignoring the french who are actually putting skin in the game?

Well, why couldn't sal be just playing his piano, that's exactly what pianists do.
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fred79
fred79


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posted January 22, 2023 11:46 PM

ArdentWyrm said:
fred79 said:
where are you in all this? just playing your piano? ignoring the french who are actually putting skin in the game?

Well, why couldn't sal be just playing his piano, that's exactly what pianists do.


yeah kid, and i'm in college. but if the actual americans here decided that enough was enough FOR REAL and got off their ass to do something about it(instead of continually letting themselves be subjected to everything they're being subjected to by the scum of the snowing earth), i'd be on the front lines. micky-mouse fantasy world could gleefully snow off, at that point.

i'm rusty on history, but the french used to behead and otherwise fight and kill tyrants, right? but these days, their illegal immigrants do the beheading and killing; of FRENCH CITIZENS(and with their puppet leaders having the populace SUPPORT THESE PEOPLE, NO LESS). when you have millions of people in the streets, that's a movement. things can be changed with that many people in a movement.

so, when i ask if sal has skin in the game, i'm not out of line or being unrealistic. a musician can be of more use than just playing an instrument; just like i can be of more use than just working on games.

opportunity for positive change should NEVER be wasted; especially when you have the numbers, opportunity, and momentum for that change.

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ArdentWyrm
ArdentWyrm


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King of the Elder Dragons
posted January 23, 2023 02:10 AM
Edited by ArdentWyrm at 02:12, 23 Jan 2023.

fred79 said:
opportunity for positive change should NEVER be wasted; especially when you have the numbers, opportunity, and momentum for that change.

I agree with that, but you gotta be careful.
But also, why would you even mention if sal was just playing his piano, that seems like a silly question, of course he's doing something else.
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Drakon-Deus
Drakon-Deus


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Qapla'
posted January 23, 2023 05:41 AM

fred79 said:
opportunity for positive change should NEVER be wasted; especially when you have the numbers, opportunity, and momentum for that change.


Exactly.
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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted January 23, 2023 06:31 AM

Yeah, we saw how that worked in Romania with the 1988 revolution which dropped the tyran. The poorest country in Europe in 1988, still the poorest and the most corrupt in 2023. Yet naive people continue to believe overthrowing gouvernements by force will automatically create a paradise. It doesn't, if all you have to replace them is even more uneducated, inexperienced and corrupt ones. Give me an exemple where it worked.

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Look freddy, it helps getting facts straight instead of parroting and speculating on what you read in diagonal here and there. The retirement reform was in Macron's presidential program, both 2017 and 2022. People elected him democratically so now they get what they asked for, right?

So instead of whining and gesticulating, we should ask ourselves what makes that every time they have the opportunity, the people elects the same type of leader. Also look at opposition and see if they are any better, are they?

Successfully running a country of 70 millions or more isn't done by constantly knelling at every convulsion of the ordinary people. It asks a long term vision, sacrifices, sometimes unpopular decisions, but at least every 5 years those ordinary people get the opportunity to reward or drop you. They elected him twice, so that's it.

Profit from your college, learn to express yourself decently, put  some order in your ideas so you get a chance to convince more people. Because as of now, all I see is someone making a fool of himself by constantly connecting fictional dots.  
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