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posted February 15, 2023 12:53 PM |
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Drakon-Deus said:
Ghost said:
Aha weird as a Polish food 
Polish food I never had, but I wholeheartedly recommend Romanian.
Spam king! Ok first I buy a Romanian meatball spices, and then we can talk about leaders and politics.. So I prefer meatballs, because I'm very OP in minced meat.. Other I'm an average Joe.. Then I can do very different minced meats.. Anything! Remember don't eat medium raw meat means red meat due to EHEC bacterial is a dangerous for children and old people..
Nice not one looked at Russian leaders..
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posted February 15, 2023 02:09 PM |
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I approve of the above post.
Russian leaders? Currently there is one and we all know how he is doing.
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fred79
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posted February 18, 2023 01:06 AM |
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i highly encourage hcers to check out the war in gaza thread from 2008. lots of information in that thread; and it's very informative to how some members here have changed(while others remained quite the same), and how claims of "anti-semitism" were viewed by more than just myself. maybe some of you who argue with me today, need some different voices pointing out the obvious. including your past selves.
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Espen
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posted February 18, 2023 07:13 PM |
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What I saw in the 7 pages I skimmed through was critique of the state of Israel, not generalizing claims that all Jews are behind some sort of world order.
Fun note, had coffee with my ex-mossad colleague today. Was nice. We are going to run a restaurant together 
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artu
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posted February 18, 2023 08:39 PM |
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Edited by artu at 20:40, 18 Feb 2023.
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Not to mention, the only still active member from that thread regarding the subject is Geny.
I can hardly imagine how he would agree with fred about Jewish people considering he is one. 
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Geny
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posted February 18, 2023 09:59 PM |
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Sal was also there and criticized the hell out of Israel. That's probably what fred is going for. But as wog said, there's a difference between antisemitism and being against the state of Israel. Even if the two can overlap sometimes.
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JollyJoker
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posted February 18, 2023 10:27 PM |
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He didn't critisize "the hell" out of Israel - he made a couple of pretty good points undermined with statistics against BOTH Israel AND the USA; he also pointed out that Israel would have to worry more about Iran than Hamas - and he was absolutely right, as it would seem.
Trading a couple of rockets, killing a couple of civilians isn't doing anything - except killing civilians and stir up hatred.
Of course this has nothing whatsoever to do with "Jews".
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Salamandre
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posted February 18, 2023 10:34 PM |
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Looks like fred is again confused. I surely still think there is a powerful pro-Israel lobby in almost every rich country. That leads to such countries willing to ignore the injustices in Palestine.
But that is about Palestine only, what fred keeps saying is that jews destroy the world, so it jumps 17 steps in something I have no evidence of.
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artu
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posted February 19, 2023 12:55 AM |
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Oh, yes, he's there in the middle, my bad. Couldnt see him in the first and last pages and didnt go through all 26 pages. I thought he might have meant him, since I remember Sal being against Israeli politics. There are occasions I am, too, naturally. But for the last 5 years or so, I am so reactionary against Islamists, I automatically feel sympathy to anyone fighting them. It is hard to compromise against such a strict ideology.
But that situation has nothing to do with his conspirical Neo-Nazi crap anyway. The Western - Israel allience is about having a stable partner in the region.
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fred79
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posted February 19, 2023 02:52 AM |
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the point was, that there was something to learn from that thread, comparing to today. knowing history, seeing a pattern, identifying issues FOR WHAT THEY ARE, being called anti-semitic or a nazi for even attempting to discuss VALID points, posting links to stuff PROVING those points... you know, the usual. the breaking down of expressing reality through communication due to social constraint/programming/whatever. that reality that even the most intellectual among the masses seem to largely avoid due to the danger it poses, these days.
and none of you understand that. geny probably is the only one still around from that thread who does, but he wouldn't tell you. because even if he WERE aware of what i was talking about(he might not be, i'll give him that. he might be just as programmed as all the rest of you), he wouldn't be inclined to side against his own people. most jews don't; oddly enough. it must be nice being able to have SOME SOLIDARITY amongst your own kind.
whites(and mostly homogenous groups), and their nations, aren't ALLOWED that.
protip: the above statement isn't racist/anti-anything. it's just FACT. some of you have forgotten that at some point in time. "joining the collective", as it were. if you haven't NOTICED that largely homogenous nations(especially WHITE NATIONS) have been under attack as long as you've been alive; if you haven't noticed that by now, understand, that you're retarded. and if you're intellectually competent and just avoiding even accepting reality, you're a HUGE snowING PART OF THE PROBLEM.
i'll end this post with a simple question: what happens to enemies of jews, or anyone going against what jews want??????
if you're not SPINELESS enough to even answer this question HONESTLY, i'll be here, waiting.
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Espen
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posted February 19, 2023 07:33 AM |
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First off, the stuff "white" countries have to answer for is pretty damned recent - hell, several countries still have colonies. Several countries (especially Usa) still have military presence in other countries and have snowed them over big time, mainly for their own profit. Corporations earn snowloads on funding and fueling warlords, guerilla- & terrorist groups. Tech companies earn their money from exploiting third world populace - just look at kobalt mining in Kongo as an example.
Migration is nothing new, it has been going on for millennia, and has slowly increased since increased globalization kicked off due to Mongol expansion connecting East & West. Usa exists because of it, and the creation of Usa ruined the populace that already lived there (because of how Usa was created in the first place, the fact that people over there have the balls to complain about immigrants is snowed up).
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i'll end this post with a simple question: what happens to enemies of jews, or anyone going against what jews want??????
if you're not SPINELESS enough to even answer this question HONESTLY, i'll be here, waiting.
Let's reframe the question; what happens to those who goes against the people with money, power and influence? Since this is not just the case with Jewish business magnates and leaders. Just look to the Clintons, Putin, Middle Eastern & African dictators, China ... It is not a question of race differences, but a question of class differences.
I do not think there is one clear goal any of these groups can agree on, except stay rich and stay in power.
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posted February 20, 2023 10:00 PM |
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stopped reading when you mentioned the U.S. having military bases in other countries, because that point needs to be addressed first and foremost, if you're going to get any of the rest of it.
if i've been telling you all this time, that the U.S. is literally OWNED by the jews, then what does that tell you about the bases the U.S. has in other countries?
think in terms of the mafia. if i'm a crime boss, wouldn't i have spread my soldiers out so we could hold gain/hold control over those areas, or simply use them as another base for mobility/operations in that area? if i'm a crime boss, wouldn't those soldiers of mine have to pay me tribute? hint: the answer is a resounding "YES".
until you understand that TRIBUTES only go ONE WAY, and they go TOWARDS THE BOSS, you're never going to understand the rest of it. without that basic understanding, you're always going to think the rest of everything i point out is bs.
billions to israel. billions to ukraine. what do those two countries have in common????
a CHILD could figure this out. this should be COMMON SENSE.
lastly, if you don't even understand what a crime syndicate LOOKS LIKE or how it OPERATES, then maybe you should do a little bit of research.
once you GET IT, you cannot UNSEE it. it's literally EVERYWHERE.
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Salamandre
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posted February 21, 2023 04:53 AM |
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You forgot the billions to Taiwan, as it doesn't fit your narrative. Yet it is the key to understand what Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan have in common. What you notice similar when you look at map locations?
Divide et impera said Julius Caesar a few years ago, and that's how USA feeds its hegemonic power in strategical areas where there are either tons of resources or nearby secular enemies to contain. That Zelensky is a jew is pure hazard and doesn't play in anything, as there is a much bigger design here.
The war in Ukraine was plotted behind doors decades before Zelensky came in and there is much data about. Moreover, you have to deal with serious cognitive dissonance, as Israel doesn't have a pro-Ukraine/Zelensky position. So as you see, things are more complex and require higher perspective.
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artu
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posted February 21, 2023 07:59 AM |
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Turkey also got a lot of money during the 1950’s and onward since during the Cold War, it was NATO’s (read USA’s) borderline headquarter against Soviet Union. During the Bay of Pigs crisis, the Russians agreed to remove nukes from Cuba only if USA removed their nukes from their bases in Turkey. (Although this information was not to be publicly shared, the Americans cared about public image much more than Russians as usual.) Ukraine conflict is once again about NATO expansion.
The claim that USA is not an imperial power but an errand boy for “the Jews” is so out of touch with reality and so unproportional, it feels strange to address it. And why do we anyway, he is never going to change his mind, it is a fixation at this point.
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Drakon-Deus
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posted February 21, 2023 08:14 AM |
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You know where I stand. Fred is right. That however does not mean all Jewish people are inherently evil. All of Israel WILL be saved.
But until then... the world is in the hands of the evil ones.
That's all I wish to add.
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Ghost
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posted February 21, 2023 08:33 AM |
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I never give in snow matter.. So some is lesser normal and IQ..
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posted February 21, 2023 01:04 PM |
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artu said:
Ukraine conflict is once again about NATO expansion.
Russia’s actions can't be said to be simply about NATO expansion. That is merely pretext.
Putin’s speeches show that he has concocted his own view of history and world affairs. In his view, Ukraine’s independence is an anomaly – it’s a state that should not exist. Putin sees his military moves as a way of correcting this divergence.
Furthermore, expanding Russian sphere of influence back to Soviet levels would be their strategic goal weather we lived in a world with or completely without NATO.
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artu
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posted February 21, 2023 04:17 PM |
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Russian influence could mean a different thing after the Cold War, with a EU including Russia but U.S. neo-cons had their old habits die hard. I mean, Ukraine has a right to be part of a Western front against Russia if it wants to, from a perspective of legitemacy, Russia had no right to invade. But it's not the wisest of choices as we've seen clearly, from a perspective of reelpolitics.
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JollyJoker
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posted February 21, 2023 07:57 PM |
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However.
The actual war started in 2014, obviously. Not last year. NATO? Wouldn't have been a factor, considering that Russia was a guarantee power for Ukraine so that they got rid of their nukes.
In fact, in hindsight the West should have reacted way stronger in 2014 already.
So - no. NATO has nothing to do with it. At this point of history "NATO" is actually a joke if you remove the USA from the equation. Has been for some time. Factor in the strong economic ties Russia had with the West and the problems "the West" has with China - what exactly had Russia to fear from NATO? Absolutely NOTHING.
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artu
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posted February 21, 2023 08:17 PM |
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But you cant take USA out of the equation, it leads NATO. And as long as USA and Russia has hostility between them, NATO means a military allience to Russia that it doesnt want under its nose. 2014 is the year Yanukovych who opposed NATO allience was overthrown by a so called revolution so it has everything to do with it.
There is no debate if NATO is at the heart of the conflict, either by people who oppose or support allience.
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