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Odvin
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posted April 19, 2003 01:45 PM |
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Rogue: Rogue Captain, Scout, Pathfinder
Mummy: Royal Mummy, Mummy Lord
Boar: Wildrider, Razorback
Nomad: Desert Raider, Nomad Archer
Troll: Cave Troll, Stone Troll, Black Troll
Enchanter: Master Enchanter
Halfling: Halfling Slinger
Peasant: Militiaman
Gorynych: Chaos Dragon, Pyronych
Nightmare: Hell Steed
Rogues: here, the Rogue Captain idea sounds interesting. May have some sort of stealth ability, like in homm4. Scout & Pathfinder - ? Maybe gives these skills to the heroes?
Boars: no way here. You know their story: ORCS ON THE BOARS. If we add more boars, there'll be too much orcs in the game. Not interesting anymore.
Nomad:: YEAH, that Nomad Archer idea is just great! I wanna see hordes of nomad archers rushing everything out in homm3!!! 
But... how do you see that? If nomads get bows then they don't need horses anymore, right? 
Troll: Here maybe only the Black Troll idea. Some new cool abilities could be linked with this.
Enchanter: ENCHANTERS ARE MASTER MAGES. What does "Master Enchanter" mean? Isn't the enchanter already a master in magic?
Halfling: no way. Halfling Slingers?! How do you see this? Aren't they already slingers? Maybe just add some abilities to the existing halflings.
Peasants: Yes, that seems a really good idea. Some neutral militiamen will be really good.
Gorynych: OH NO PLEEEEEEAAAAASE! Zmey Gorynych is 1 single personage from Russian tales and he can't be upgraded. And Pyronych... just funny... 
Nightmare: I don't find it a good idea. Simple nightmares is enough.
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ByteBandit
Promising
Famous Hero
Soul Merchant
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posted April 19, 2003 04:44 PM |
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Currently, we are batting around the idea of creating a Headless Horseman. This creature will throw fireball pumpkins and produce the same gas attack as the lich, only it will be an orange gas and have a new facial effect other than the skull and crossbones that you see in it now. It's dwelling? Sleepy Hollow , of course! What do you think?
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Arstahd
Adventuring Hero
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posted April 19, 2003 07:41 PM |
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Headless Horseman
Kind of interesting, the only thing that I don't like is that it doesn't really fit with heroes. The Horseman was a singular entity from colonial New England, kind of hard to see a horde of them.
Maybe it could be made more generic. Here's a thought, make it the upgrade of the Nightmare, the Hellborn Rider or Lord of Fright or something. It could still be a headless person riding on a Nightmare that tosses a few pumpkin bombs or fireballs.
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Lord_Woock
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Daddy Cool with a $90 smile
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posted April 19, 2003 08:07 PM |
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The Horseman was a singular entity from colonial New England, kind of hard to see a horde of them.
I don't see a problem with that, as there also was only one Minotaur, only one Medusa and only one Cerber.
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Arstahd
Adventuring Hero
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posted April 19, 2003 08:29 PM |
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True, but something about those just seems to lend themselves more to a creature type than the horseman. Maybe it's just that the horseman's a more recent legend (based actually very close to where I grew up) as opposed to the ancient greek myths.
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WaY2HeLL
Adventuring Hero
Grandmaster Wizard of HOMM3.5
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posted April 19, 2003 10:42 PM |
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THX Gangrail but you can allways change some names and put a little change in graphic. (like bill Gates with first windows )
little change will not be against the rulez and all of us which was player of HOMM series from the beggining will be satisfied.
THX
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zordrac
Adventuring Hero
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posted April 30, 2003 01:17 PM |
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Headless Horsemen
Hi there.
I think that the "headless horseman" idea is fantastic!
There were different forms of undead holding their own heads at different stages of the game, so this whole thing makes perfect sense! Just put one of those walking dead, or ghosts on a horse! Great idea!
In regards to there "only ever being one headless horseman", I disagree with this.
There have been countless examples of people reporting headless ghosts (not just one!), and it has been including in many movies, tv shows, games and so forth.
There may have been only one who was riding a horse and called a "headless horseman" but that doesn't make it unique. What is wrong with the concept of there being several undead who had their heads chopped off and liked to ride horses? It makes perfect sense.
In regards to there being only one Medusa, well, again, there may well have only been one in legend, but there it makes perfect sense for there to be many. Same for Minotaurs (and I am not actually sure that it is correct to say that there was only ever one...)
So I'll say bring them in.
The Panther looks cool too. Could be ultra fast.
Maybe you could consider having a Panther + Jaguar as an upgrade? (even faster! fastest creature in the game?)
And with the boars that were talked about earlier, well, first off, many people agree that wolves and boars were much cooler without the stupid orcs riding them. In HOMM2 they were there by themselves, so lets axe the dumb orcs and bring them in solo. Can we do that? And I think that boars could be downgraded into piglets . And maybe wolves into regular pack dogs or something.
Can we have downgrades?
All sounds good. I really do like the Headless Horseman idea though.
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Lord_Woock
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Daddy Cool with a $90 smile
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posted April 30, 2003 01:28 PM |
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Yes, there was only one Minotaur. He was the son of some god, if my memory serves me well. But I mix and screw things up sometimes, so I'm not sure about the godly parent.
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Vlaad
Admirable
Legendary Hero
ghost of the past
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posted April 30, 2003 07:41 PM |
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I completely agree with everything that's been written by Zordrac. It's not like we're having "Frankensteins" or "Draculas" or something.
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ch3gu3v4r4
Tavern Dweller
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posted May 03, 2003 01:00 AM |
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And what about some DnD monsters (neutral - almost unique but most powerful)like Tanaar Ri, Tarasque, Kraken...
Also there are much cool creatures like:
Specters,Clerics,Assasins,Mercenary,Shapeshifters...
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Vlaad
Admirable
Legendary Hero
ghost of the past
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posted May 03, 2003 09:08 AM |
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* Vlaad is drooling *
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ByteBandit
Promising
Famous Hero
Soul Merchant
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posted May 03, 2003 09:32 AM |
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Also there are much cool creatures like:
Specters,Clerics,Assasins,Mercenary,Shapeshifters...
Spectres are ghosts which are already in the game. Clerics are a class of Knights. We are currently testing a script where you can hire a spy to infiltrate a town, where he can assassin a creature or hero. And he is a mercenary too. Shapeshifters might be good..hmmmmm.
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ch3gu3v4r4
Tavern Dweller
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posted May 03, 2003 05:37 PM |
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Shapeshifters is my favorite creature type, there is one great shapeshifter from: Magic the Gathering called Morphling and it is most powerful creature ever printed in MTG
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Vlaad
Admirable
Legendary Hero
ghost of the past
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posted May 30, 2003 11:38 PM |
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Shapeshifters could be done, right?
It was said earlier in the thread that some WoG creatures would be repainted. I was wondering if my favourite Nightmare can be... black, y'know?
Grand Elves could also be painted into blue and purple thus making beautiful Dark Elves.
I'm sorry. I had to say that.
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Arstahd
Adventuring Hero
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posted June 01, 2003 09:54 AM |
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Hmmmm... something like this?
This is one of two possible versions of a Nightmare update. I say possible because there is some contention on whether WoG should have any existing creature graphics updated. While many team members welcome the idea, there are those that feel it is unnecessary or could lead to confusion.
Regardless, I will try to make available any updated graphics that I have completed for those interested.
For starters, the completed battle animation for the above Nightmare can be found HERE.
A utility for importing it into H3Sprite.lod can be found HERE.
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Cybernetic
Known Hero
Cypriot Legend
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posted June 02, 2003 04:35 AM |
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I like the ideas, but wouldn't it make it better is the only way monsters can go to their "second" or "third" form is by battle experience that monsters earn. This will encourage players to look after their monsters better to earn rewards, than build em' then kill em' battling style 
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doomfreak
Famous Hero
The Crispinator
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posted June 02, 2003 04:53 AM |
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Thats A good idea. I have wanted that in HOMM for a long time now.
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Cybernetic
Known Hero
Cypriot Legend
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posted June 02, 2003 08:51 AM |
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Thats A good idea. I have wanted that in HOMM for a long time now.
Thanx, once again, behind me all the way, give yourself a pat to thy back
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Vlaad
Admirable
Legendary Hero
ghost of the past
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posted June 02, 2003 11:49 PM |
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You two deserve each other.
The creature experience script has already been discussed, hasn't it? I think it was too complicated...?
Anyway, the NIGHTMARE IS PERFECT!!!
Can we insert this version into the current game with the files downloaded from those links?!
*drooling*
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Arstahd
Adventuring Hero
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posted June 03, 2003 07:32 AM |
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Anyway, the NIGHTMARE IS PERFECT!!!
Can we insert this version into the current game with the files downloaded from those links?!
*drooling*
Yes, it's ready to go, I included some basic instructions on how to use the import utility in the zip. Just import the def file into H3sprite.lod
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