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phoenixreborn

  
     
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Unicorn
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posted November 12, 2008 12:05 PM |
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Quote: I hate love resurrection tactics with last stand 
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Asheera

    
      
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Elite Assassin
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posted November 12, 2008 01:25 PM |
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Cloak of Death's Shadow... that's why I barely scored lucky hits
And it wasn't such a 'crush'. Those Arcanes were killing around 5 Paladins in one shot. Maybe if a lucky shot triggered (some 10% chance), I would be close to a win - I still had some Teleports available I think to get out of the Squire's range. 
Oh and maybe if Blindness triggered on the Paladins with the Unicorns the situation would be different - but there was no blinding strike in the entire game (except late on the Seraphs)
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Elvin

     
       
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Endless Revival
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posted November 12, 2008 01:59 PM |
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Crush? Heck no far from it. The whole case was about how many resurrects you had if you also count the occasional teleport. Only my griffins were rooted to place, the others could move with about 5 morale and divine guidance and it is unlikely that you could stay in a safe place for long. I don't remember how much mana I had, wonder if I could cast a haste. The only mistake I could make that might lose me the game would be moving my seraphs to uncover the unicorns but I'm pretty sure that their hp was sufficiently reduced as well, you resurrected them a bit too often.
About the blinding strike you probably know it's hp based and I made sure from the beginning to reduce their numbers For the same reason it would probably not trigger if you resurrected them again later.
Anyway the case is hypothetical but what I know is that I needed little luck to score a good hit on the arcanes.
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Asheera

    
      
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posted November 12, 2008 02:02 PM |
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I meant that the battle wasn't a 'crush' on my part, meaning that you didn't 'crush' me like some others say. It was a balanced victory
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Elvin

     
       
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Endless Revival
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posted November 12, 2008 02:25 PM |
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Quote: Crush? Heck no far from it.
Said so myself 
So, how are the other matches coming along? Azagal? Lesij?
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Asheera

    
      
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posted November 12, 2008 02:28 PM |
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Ah sorry, I understood differently. You should have put a comma there (no, far from it)
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Elvin

     
       
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posted November 12, 2008 02:38 PM |
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zamfir

  
    
Promising
Supreme Hero
Allez allez allez
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posted November 12, 2008 08:47 PM |
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Sorry for the delay, fellows, but my showdown against Azagal will be Friday. The timezones got the better of us.
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adon

 
  
Known Hero
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posted November 12, 2008 10:53 PM |
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Quote: I meant that the battle wasn't a 'crush' on my part, meaning that you didn't 'crush' me like some others say. It was a balanced victory
Maybe I missed a deleted post, but who said that Sylvan (ash) v
Haven (elvin) was a crush? No one. (In fact the word wasn't even used by anyone but Ash and she wrote it in quotes like she was referencing someone? )
Funny youtube link though.
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Asheera

    
      
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posted November 12, 2008 10:58 PM |
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Ah ok sorry then, I think I misunderstood something.
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Arcax

  
   
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Famous Hero
Its quite hot inside...
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posted November 12, 2008 11:02 PM |
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Edited by Arcax at 23:10, 12 Nov 2008.
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I'm curious what Skeleton and Lesij are doing...
Anyone knows what's going on with this duo?
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adon

 
  
Known Hero
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posted November 12, 2008 11:03 PM |
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I did say poor Sylvan but that was in reference to them losing both fights against orcs and haven. I didn't mean to imply THAT fight had been lopsided. It was more even than the other two 
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rubycus

 
  
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posted November 13, 2008 10:53 AM |
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Edited by rubycus at 11:12, 13 Nov 2008.
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Are ultimate abilities like Howl of terror/Natures luck etc. allowed?
And btw:
Quote: (at page 23)Necropolis (Naadir) =vs= Sylvan (Ossir) -->(DOWNLOAD)
Naadir lvl28
AT-1, DF-15, POW-28, KNW-14
Expert Necromancy/Mark of the Necromancer/Banshee Howl
Expert Summoning/Master of Earthblood/Fog Veil
Expert Dark/Master of Curses/Master of Pain/Dark Renewal
Expert Defense/Vitality/Protection/Evasion
Expert Enlightenment/Intelligence/Dark Revelation
Expert Sorcery
Ossir lvl28
At-12, DF-17, POW-13, KNW-13
Expert Avenger/Rain of Arrows/Imbue Arrows/Dead Eye Shot
Expert Luck/Magic Resistance
Expert Enlightenment/Intelligence/Arcane Intuition
Expert Destructive/Master of Ice
Expert Defense/Evasion
Expert War Machines/Ballista/Triple Ballista/Imbue Ballista
Why are they level 28? Because the map is "tweaked"? Meaning? Edited?
So max level is 21 (starting with adv. racial + 2 perks)?
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Elvin

     
       
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posted November 13, 2008 11:18 AM |
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Indeed, the current version allows up to lvl 21 - 22 with dark revelation - which is not high enough to get an absolute perk. That would create imbalances.
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rubycus

 
  
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posted November 13, 2008 11:45 AM |
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Edited by rubycus at 14:18, 13 Nov 2008.
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I agree it would be unbalanced, but I tried in the skillwheel. Take Laszlo for example. When you start with advanced counterstrike, retaliation strike and expert trainer, that makes him level 4 in the skillwheel. If level 4 in the skillwheel means level 1 in the game, then level 24 in the skillwheel means 21 in game. So in the skillwheel, you can acctually choose skills and abilties up to level 24 (if you choose at least adv. c.str + retal.str and exp.tr.) Then if I click on "unstoppable charge" the skillwheel sais Laszlo is level 23, which means I have two levels to go... ... ...
When starting with adv. c.str + retal.str and exp.tr. level 21 IS enough for ultimate perks... Have someone tried to aim for ultimate perks, to see if it works, or are they banned?
EDIT: 24, not 25
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Elvin

     
       
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posted November 13, 2008 12:12 PM |
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You may be right, forgot about that. Will look into it later.
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Azagal

    
      
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Smooth Snake
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posted November 13, 2008 12:22 PM |
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Edited by Azagal at 12:26, 13 Nov 2008.
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No need to look. It's possible.

Thanks Rubycus .
EDIT: And yeah I guess the best solution would simply be to ban the ultimates not to decrease the level cap to 21. Ultimates would of course be unfair since they're only available to factions with Dark Revelation.
EDIT: Ahahahaa tried out Inferno with Ultimate Gating xD ahahaaha . That'd certainly make others play inferno in this tournament.
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Asheera

    
      
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Elite Assassin
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posted November 13, 2008 01:24 PM |
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I don't know what you're talking about. We don't start with Expert Racial, only Advanced, just enough to not be able to choose the ultimate
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Azagal

    
      
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Smooth Snake
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posted November 13, 2008 01:42 PM |
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Edited by Azagal at 13:43, 13 Nov 2008.
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Dark Revelation my dear. And ehm there I like a HUGE screenshot in the post above your head... so uhm... the point is pretty clear I guess?
EDIT: And on top of that he said:
Quote: When starting with adv. c.str + retal.str and exp.tr. level 21 IS enough for ultimate perks... Have someone tried to aim for ultimate perks, to see if it works, or are they banned?
What's there to argue?
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rubycus

 
  
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posted November 13, 2008 02:33 PM |
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Do heroes start with adv. racial + 2 perks ONLY? Or do they also start with the skills they usually start with in normal H5?
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