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Asheera

    
      
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posted January 20, 2009 01:44 PM |
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It works, that was a bug before TotE.
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rubycus

 
  
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posted January 20, 2009 01:50 PM |
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So it works with empowered spells? cool. Btw, did you see the replays?
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Asheera

    
      
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posted January 20, 2009 01:56 PM |
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Edited by Asheera at 13:57, 20 Jan 2009.
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Yes I've seen them. The first one was pretty 'crazy' with that 1 Master Hunter staying alive (funny how mamga suicided in the end ), and in the second one it was pretty funny how the Griffins landed near the Frenzied Rakshasas and received all the damage from them (bug?) even though the Rakshasas targeted the other player's units.
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rubycus

 
  
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posted January 20, 2009 02:06 PM |
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Maybe magma hoped the hydra would survive, so he could kill my last master hunter.
About the second one I think magma got a little "angry", when the griffins landed right in front of the rakshasas Also, what I had shrug darkness, and distract, which made his dark magic much less useful.
I don't understand why the master gremlins retaliated on the rakshasas, though. Did you see that?
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Asheera

    
      
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posted January 20, 2009 02:08 PM |
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Because the Rakshasas attacked the Master Gremlins, but, because there was an enemy unit in their range, only the Griffins were damaged.
It seems the area attacks can't target units from both sides at the same time. I don't know if it's a bug or intended...
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Clay_Man

 
  
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posted January 20, 2009 02:27 PM |
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Fresh meat to the grinder...
After some chitchat with Elvin, he convinced another TOH player -me- to join this tournament.
Add me plz to your msn: imclayman@hotmail.com
GL HF everyone
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Elvin

     
       
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posted January 20, 2009 02:40 PM |
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Seems a lot happened yesterday Where to begin..
Tann's necro vs dungeon fight was certainly amusing. I mean come on, I couldn't hit 35 power with dungeon when they had 3 artifact merchants and the issus robe and skull of Markal were enabled and he gets it with necro now But suppose he does, the only saving grace for dungeon are the blackies. And Lepastur offered them in a silver plate so they could die faster. Anyway he was a bit unlucky to begin with.
As for setting a rule to upgrade everything this is not something I can enforce. For one necro's upgrades DO matter, there are few units I would not upgrade if I desperatey needed the gold regardless of faction. Secondly it's a matter of option and no, there aren't as many spellpower boosters around.
Now on to the second game. Lepastur kept his units in tight formations, on some occasions he could have moved to deal some damage or at least to prevent meteor hitting so many targets. The mistresses could be attacked with an aoe even invisible, as for the last berserker move it was pretty daring. I'd have stayed behind the hydras' safe wall waiting them to appear. Was a fun battle though Could have gone either way so every detail counts.
Rubycus vs mamga also had some fun battles.
About haven vs academy I'd have reserved the seraph's mana for divine vengeance and used crossbowmen, academy is not likely to charge you. Except djinns but you can make short work of them Those frenzys didn't help much, maybe if the units were still behind their lines. Btw those kshatras ruled the battlefield 
Vs dungeon I don't get why anyone would pick master hunters and risk the warlock acting first. The dungeon units do NOT need to come close, the warlock can kill from afar just as well. What I think went wrong is that mamga failed to kill the high init units from the start. The lone hunter survivor in the end was priceless
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Azagal

    
      
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posted January 20, 2009 02:43 PM |
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Quote: I'd have reserved the seraph's mana for divine vengeance
Say what? That's allowed oO? Where's the difference between an Seraphs Divine Vengance and a heros?
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Asheera

    
      
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posted January 20, 2009 02:45 PM |
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1) Basic Mastery
2) Once per combat
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Elvin

     
       
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posted January 20, 2009 02:46 PM |
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That the seraph's is allowed Come on as if I'd ban a creature's special - if that was the case I would have banned vampire princes, arcanes and high druids 
Anyway I didn't post my battles, hang on.
Was lucky to get hold of Larry yesterday, I think his hc name is FoolishMan. We started with a 'training' match for him to get the feel of the map, dungeon vs necro. My mana won the game, I had 200+ mana from excellence, he had 90. Didn't know that hive spends your mana so he run out a bit earlier than he would have expected. I had icicle and trident that helped.
First tournament game was dwarves vs haven. I planned to use a warmachine build, got flaming, got expert runic machines and...ballista never came up! Tried a few times with mentor, the &#%$#@ turned me down. So I made a generic might build with few artifacts. It worked a lot better than I would have thought, I was surprised.
Second was dungeon vs academy but after a long preparation the mentor ate two of Larry's skills so we restarted This time I had academy vs Larry's fortress. Was a very good game though as most battles of this setup long and kinda boring. Imagine that my mana eventually run out 
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Academy skills were light->stormwind/suppress light, summoning, enlightenment, sorcery and with my last gold I changed advanced luck into adv defense Because I wasted the rest trying to get fog veil..
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phoenixreborn

  
     
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posted January 20, 2009 03:54 PM |
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Quote: Didn't know that hive spends your mana so he run out a bit earlier than he would have expected.
I'm relieved someone else did this too.
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Asheera

    
      
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posted January 20, 2009 04:33 PM |
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Haha, liked how those Thunder Thanes hit so many targets because of Blade Barrier 
And why did the Shieldguards destroy the Hive when you had no mana left anyway? Not that it would have saved Fortress though...
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zamfir

  
    
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Allez allez allez
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posted January 20, 2009 07:18 PM |
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5th Tournament: Arcax? Final_Boss? Me no likes this.
Well, too bad for them.
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Asheera

    
      
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posted January 20, 2009 10:32 PM |
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Fortress mania! All three rounds had a Fortress in a side 
I lost 2-1, though it's my stupidness striking again, the last one (Fortress vs Sylvan) was so close and probably if I upgraded the Thanes I would have won (I had the Gold, just forgot to upgrade them /facepalm)
First two are not so close though 
http://www.speedyshare.com/794163620.html
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posted January 20, 2009 10:39 PM |
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I told Ash to town portal back but neither of us had the spell.
We also weren't sure whether the rule is still in place about not using the same army twice. Still I won once and lost once with fortress so it balanced out.
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Elvin

     
       
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posted January 20, 2009 10:44 PM |
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That's up to the players, when I got dwarves a second time in my game with Larry I asked a restart because I was bored to play them again Btw lately I see people forgetting to upgrade or not having enough gold to upg all units, what's up with that?
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Asheera

    
      
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posted January 20, 2009 10:52 PM |
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I was stupid, I didn't upgrade them because I wasn't sure which one so I decided to upgrade them later... but later I forgot even though I think I had enough gold.
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veco

 
     
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posted January 20, 2009 11:31 PM |
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Lol. If you tried to stall those Treants with Magmas and Battleragers, defend with Harpooners instead of attacking, you'd have enough time to take them down with hero
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Asheera

    
      
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posted January 20, 2009 11:41 PM |
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Hmm, probably, I didn't think of that and I was hoping for Bash to trigger miraculously. 
But yeah you're right, probably the Treants would have been killed in time.
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Mamgaeater

 
     
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posted January 21, 2009 02:48 AM |
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I was going down anyways and i wasn't expecting luck.
Awesome replays btw.
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