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Just penalize anytime religion is mentioned period.

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So .. is that what you want, or do you want us to trust the community to police itself?

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We will step in if people can't stop and think about what they are posting.  If we have to ban every religious topic, or penalize for every religious comment..period, we will.

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A fundamentalist atheist on the other hand may be a very dishonest person as he believes there is no such thing as absolute morality.

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Let's not forget that as long Western societies have been dominated by religion there has been a lot of inequality and discrimination as well.

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You must be talking about officially atheist governmnents as they have been the most oppresive an inequitable governments in the recorded history of humanity. Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin, Lenin, ect.
The way France is going it is setting itself up for a French version of Hitler in my opinion.

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And here the parents have no right whatsoever to let their child die because of THEIR personal religious delusions.
It is the CHILD who has the right to be protected from such delusional decisions, getting it killed.
Letting a child die for fear it could forego salvation is murder for superestitious beliefs. You could just as wwll kill a child and then claim it was the anti-christ or something.

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Sorry, I disagree that delusional atheists should control all sane people, JJ. Atheists make up a tiny percentage of all the people who ever lived and is in worldwide decline. Delusional atheist tyrants certainly murdered more people in the last 100 years than all other religions for all of recorded history.
Atheists have a right to make decisions for themselves and for thier children, even though the atheist worldview is nothing but a delusion. Others with a more rational woldview also have that same right.

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No, JJ, you should not be able to kill your child simply because he is not living the way you want him to live. No Christian would ever advocate such a thing, although I can see how materialistic atheism could lead to such a policy.

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You have already stated in the past that a parent teaching a child his religion is racism and should be illegal. I could post quite a list of your anti-theist quotes. I realize that anti-theist loony tune atheists (not all atheists are anti-theists) are very intollerant of the beliefs of others but a free society simply can't exist where loony atheists attempt to force their delusions on everyone else. I like being free and certainly I would not bow to a loony atheist State-god.

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Pentecostals tolerate the right of others to practice their reigion, even very delusional religions like atheism.
By religiously deluded parents I assume you are refering to atheists.

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But I don't want the loony tunes Marxists in government forcing their anti-theistic religion on others. The atheist loons in the government have no right to dictate what medical procedure anyone must undergo.
You have to be careful who you listen to because there are lots of atheist liars these days who seek to twist the Word of God because they don't actually think there is such a thing as "right" and "wrong" and so easily justify their deception. The goal of such Dawkinite anti-theists is to destroy all other religions with their lies and whatever other means possible.
Loony tunes materialistic atheists hold the delusion that physical life is all that there is. Theists don't hold that irrational superstition.
When loony tunes atheists have demanded that believers bow to the State-god or die believers have said "We must obey God rather than man" and subsequently been murdered. Loony tunes atheists have murdered over 250 million people in the past 100 years, many simply for being theists.
No, we certainly can't afford to let loony tunes atheists set policy that the rest of the world must follow in regards to any belief, "religious" or otherwise.
As mentioned, we have seen exactly what kind of "religious freedom" loony tunes atheists impose when they come into political power. There are far too many loony tunes religious lunatic atheists who push their fanatical lunatic views on others to allow them free reign to do as they please to others.
Loony tunes atheists don't have the right to pronounce all other religions to be "superstition" and then impose their delusional religion on everyone else.
The parents, not fanatical delusional atheists, should determine the child's medical treatment in the evert that the child is too immature or unable to make the decision.
Again, atheists don't have the right to rule over everyone else.
Also, once again I ask you to prove that a child who does receive a blood transfusion does not go to hell. You can't. Unfortunately, fanatical atheist lunatics want to impose their views by force on others because they have no respect for the rights of other human beings to make their own decisions and control their own lives. Anti-theistic atheism is the most intolerant of all religions.
I agree parents should not harm or abuse their children although this comes dangerously close to saying atheists should not be allowed to have children because the delusional religion of atheism certainly does cause harm. We know studies have shown atheists tend to have poor relationships with their fathers, have more mental illnesses, commit suicide more often, and are less charitable to others, in general. Atheism is destructive to both society and to individuals.

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Frankly a person who does not believe in God can hardly be caused a reasonable person, based on current science, assuming they have at least an eighth grade education.

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Atheism, especially "hard" atheism is based on faith and has no supporting evidence. It is a religion that requires quite a bit of faith actually, since one must ignore known scientific facts to be an atheist.

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No one wants to claim to be an atheist in prison because it looks bad for the parole board. The liars who have never foot in a church or have not attended church in ages all claim a religion after they have been caught. What is obvious is that they are not Christians because Jesus said his sheep hear his voice and follow him. They (almost all) are atheists.
Atheists are in general the least tolerant of all religions. Just look at what ALWAYS happens when athiests gain control of a nation. Mass murder and denial of basic human rights.
According to studies atheists have more mental illnesses, tend to have poor relationships with their fathers, commit suicide more often and are less charitable than religious people. Atheism, it seems, is destructive to both individuals and to society.
Yes, I would not doubt that atheists are less likely to spank their children since the logical conclusion of materialistic atheism is that there is no such thing as moral and immoral actions so atheists have nothing meaningful to teach their children about behavior other than "legal" and "illegal."
Evidently the French courts have decided that freedom of religion only applies to practicing your religion within the walls of a place of worship. So much for freedom of religion in France. They are one step away from becoming a communist nation with an atheist monster like Stalin or Pol Pot heading it up.

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A fundamentalist atheist on the other hand may be a very dishonest person as he believes there is no such thing as absolute morality.

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The Moderators stance is that we don't want to have to be babysitters.  Everybody should be able to police themselves, and act like grownups.  Not cry 'insult' for every little thing.  Stick to the facts, have a good DEBATE, but for all that is sanity...if you can't get along with somebody just do not discuss with them.  Period.  Or talk to them (if you don't think it is debating).

People need to grow up and take responsibility for their actions.

We would prefer a sane, ration, self moderated discussion.  However, we can step in if needed.  We will step in if people can't stop and think about what they are posting.  If we have to ban every religious topic, or penalize for every religious comment..period, we will.  We would rather NOT, and would rather trust the community to police themselves.  Which, surprise is what we have been TRYING to do.  Apparently it is failing.  So, if we must, we will do what we will be forced to do.  Just penalize anytime religion is mentioned period.  Including 'atheism'.

So .. is that what you want, or do you want us to trust the community to police itself?

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Well if talking about suggestions to write in a 'nicer' way. I at least would like to suggest that people don't start writing their post with

"I'm sorry, but your..."

In my view, in stead of simply stating ones observations and logic, as arguments, starting by writing "I'm" and adding "your" makes it somewhat unnecessary personal in my opinion.
At least, it makes it seem like the debate is only for the two person in question, like they've a little private debate in the middle of a congress room, outshouting anyone and everyone who try to let everyone be heard. I dunno, if it's clouding though, it's not that bad again in my opinion.

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This is not a democracy, this is Heroes Community, not the USA and certainly not a church.

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Which would mean, as a boss, never hire a muslim, they may waste precious worktime with praying or other religious stuff - HIRE ATHEISTS!

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Nah, I'd be afraid of hiring a fundamentalist atheist. They would not make good employees. I think a Muslim would be up front with his prospective employer about his need to pray at certain times of the day. An employer who refused to allow him breaks to pray at those times would not hire him. A fundamentalist atheist on the other hand may be a very dishonest person as he believes there is no such thing as absolute morality.

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