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posted August 17, 2008 05:53 PM |
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Again, I see no contradiction.
EVERYTHING GETS "USED" UP otherwise NATURE WOULDN'T WORK. There is no such thing as "useless" objectively, because absolutely EVERY PIECE OF MATTER/ENERGY IS "USED" TO SOME EXTENT because energy can't be created or destroyed.
The above is the ONLY objective definition of "usage". Anything else is BIASED to the human in question. You can't measure your stupid "usefulness", it is also different (everyone finds a different use for something), it is not set in stone, so why would it be objective?
sorry for the caps, but look at the freaking last page -- it's full of pointless arguing. Let's just drop it. Geez dude, I've visited forums, but no one ever was so arguing pointlessly like you (and they disagreed with me even more than you). 
Ok time to chill out. If everyone thinks I've been too shouting then I'll edit my post, but I'm done with this stupid off-topic and pointless arguing. Let's get back to the subject: Believing in God.
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posted August 17, 2008 06:10 PM |
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I disagree, but it'd be a good idea to get back on topic.
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posted August 19, 2008 02:42 PM |
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Assume for a moment that Ghosts, for example, exist. Are you saying they are a "statistical explanation"? With statistical explanations you can prove anything.
Why would I consent to assume that ghosts exits??
But seriously, there have been those that have observed (or claimed to have observed) "unexplainable" hot pockets of air and then concluded that they must be caused by ghosts. There's no logic behind this deduction. Assuming the observation is real, a possible scientific explanation is that these alleged hot pockets are due to statistical deviations from the mean velocity of gas molecules in the volume of air in question. That is, any random gas molecule has a random velocity centered about a mean velocity that can be determined by the temperature. Thus here we have an observation that a religious/superstitious person attributes illogically to a supernatural end, but the scientific person realizes may just be due to natural statistics.
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posted August 19, 2008 02:46 PM |
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I get what you mean. But what I was saying is that the statistical probabilities are based on assumptions -- that the respective chances are uniformly distributed, hence the world acts in a GIVEN way, as assumed.
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posted September 04, 2008 06:07 PM |
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Just so you guys see how adorable you are argueing .
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posted September 04, 2008 06:13 PM |
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LOL this made my day
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posted September 04, 2008 08:01 PM |
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I do not believe in religion too.Well,most ppl call atheist immoral and idiots.
If someone wants some interesting things to understand,if you are not too strict,see this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdVucvo-kDU
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posted September 04, 2008 09:51 PM |
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I do not believe in religion too.Well,most ppl call atheist immoral and idiots.
Only if they are zealots, which makes them idiots by default. I wouldn't say such people are the majority, even in my country, which is called theistic. They are minority, but somehow they are considered as a typical theist. Which is pretty wrong..
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posted September 04, 2008 10:02 PM |
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^LoL, Azz!
Why not post that in the comic of the day thread?
Oh it got deleted. 
DAMN you, Pan!
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posted September 04, 2008 10:36 PM |
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Read.
*sigh*
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What if Elvin was female?
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posted September 04, 2008 10:43 PM |
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Should have added an at the end.
DAMN you, Pan!
There is it better now?
I know the rules. Surprised to hear that even someone nows them?
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posted September 04, 2008 10:47 PM |
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posted September 06, 2008 10:36 AM |
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good topic i see already rewarded
I dont like churches the priests lie all the time and tell people how to life when they don't know themself.
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posted September 06, 2008 10:58 AM |
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good topic i see already rewarded
I dont like churches the priests lie all the time and tell people how to life when they don't know themself.
Please don't hurry posting like this. Someone may think you mean every single priest lies all the time and none of them all around the world is honest. And that would sound as if I claimed that no blond woman can have an IQ over 100.
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posted September 06, 2008 12:29 PM |
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I do not believe in religion too.Well,most ppl call atheist immoral and idiots.
1) Extremists, the guys which you're talking about, call them rather "fools" or ignorants or possibly immoral, depending on religion (again, it's for extremists).
2) Atheists usually call religious people "idiots" or whatever else
but you know let's not get off the point here, by pointing fingers like 2 year olds.
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I do not believe in religion too.Well,most ppl call atheist immoral and idiots.
1) Extremists, the guys which you're talking about, call them rather "fools" or ignorants or possibly immoral, depending on religion (again, it's for extremists).
2) Atheists usually call religious people "idiots" or whatever else
but you know let's not get off the point here, by pointing fingers like 2 year olds.
Check the video,it was written in bible that "Atheists are fools".
Now was not that violent towards free speech?
As long as religion is something private,ppl should be able to believe in any religion or no religion at all.Badly,I have heard that the US is too religious.They would not give an adoption cuz of the individuals were atheists.
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posted September 06, 2008 10:11 PM |
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Check the video,it was written in bible that "Atheists are fools".
Are you sure you read my post?
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Now was not that violent towards free speech?
On the contrary, people can swear at each other as long as they want, it's called free speech. I've seen to many people swearing in forums, whether they are religious or atheists (but to be honest, I've seen more zealous atheists, that's maybe because religious extremists might not visit those forums anyway). I either ignore them or respond with arguments, which they fail to respond to apart from replying "you think like ****" or "OMG you need serious help dude!"
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posted September 06, 2008 10:43 PM |
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I dont like churches the priests lie all the time and tell people how to life when they don't know themself.
I'd like to state that this is a point that I have pondered over myself on numerous ocassions. It's not necessarily the fact that priests of whatever religion lie about everything, but in the end... How much more do they know that other people? They do God's work, but they're not more effective in prayer or whatever, as prayer doesn't work period. How much more do they really know? They preach the gift of eternal life in paradise, but how can they know this for certain to a point where it'd be acceptable for them to preach it? They get it from the Bible like ever other Christian, so what makes them more qualified to be the ones to lecture others about God?
{Yes, I specify Christians, but other religions are guilty of this fact as well}
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posted September 06, 2008 10:46 PM |
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so what makes them more qualified to be the ones to lecture others about God?
Maybe because they don't think like this:Quote:
as prayer doesn't work period.
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posted September 06, 2008 10:50 PM |
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I can prove it doesn't work, with the help of Christianity itself, Ash. And I will.
Step 1) You pray.
Step 2) God supposedly receives the prayer.
Step 3) God either grants it or does not. Should he grant it, skip to Step 7.
Step 4) Should God not have granted what you prayed for, he did not because it's part of ''God's Plan.''
Step 5) You accept ''God's Plan.''
Step 7) You move on with your life.
Who is to say that if he did answer your prayer, it was not because it was in his Plan in the first place? So if he only grants the prayers that are granted in his Plan anyway, and ignores the rest, what's the use of praying? To try to get God to change his Plan? Just for you?
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