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posted May 07, 2008 01:28 PM |
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Child abuse!
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posted May 07, 2008 01:32 PM |
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Child abuse!
No its not. Thats called Long Hair Power.
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posted May 07, 2008 04:06 PM |
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I let him decide after he turns 14
My children all have the hair that they want; I let them express themselves the way the want to.
WTF does this have to do with anything again?
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posted May 07, 2008 07:57 PM |
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Hes either seeking attention or unsure will his long hair be accepted.
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posted May 11, 2008 01:46 PM |
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And that includes pedophiles, actually. I met a former teacher online when I was around 13. Yes, he was a local. Yes, he was a pedophile. Yes, he tried to tempt me to meet up. Yes, I was tempted. No, he was not a rapist. No, I did not give in to his requests, since I reasoned I would regret it later.
You were tempted and think your availability to the internet with no supervision was healthy? Not to say that it would not have tempted you anyway, but this availability to the net at a young age with no restrictions was not of any help.
Sorry, that's where you are being shortsighted. It was a major help in that I learned to build my selfconsidense, it's where I grew tolerant, it's where I foraged my information. I learned more from freely exploring the net than from school.
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Prime example of why the net should be regulated to a certain degree.
You seem to be the only drawing that conclusion from this - and without any decent backup whatsoever. You know me so well?
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Yes he is a rapist but to a sicker degree.
Bull-snow.
I get sick of people throwing EVERY pedophile in the same "Rapist" corner. For once, try to imagine what your life would be like if you were sexually attracted to children ONLY, and lived in a society where it is not-done to have sex with children. How would you feel?
I am not a pedophile, but at least I can emphasize enough to understand they have a life hard enough as it is without people labelling them a rapist. THAT is what I find sick.
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posted May 12, 2008 04:20 AM |
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Ok Moon, since the only real concern that you should have is whether tomorrow is the day that you wake up with pubic hair or not, I should not even respond. First off did you read your post? You almost gave into to the sexual perversity of a MALE school teacher that was trying to lure you in to come and show him some love. That alone sounds sick to the normal average person. You say having complete and open internet access is a great thing and we should allow our children to roam nasty porn sights while pedophiles are roaming free to lure naive young boys in such as yourself? Of course I will assume you have no children and pray you never do.
I’ am not the only one who thinks there should be regulation on the net, you are grossly mistaken. The point is while you were whacking off to John Holms does Europe alone with no supervision; I was talking to my children openly about sex. Don’t get me wrong, does the normal teenager spank the chicken, yes. Is regulating porn sight availability and certain chat rooms (that are full of pedophiles and nastiness) wrong to do*** no!
And do me favor and don’t aggravate me with your Bull **** about how we should feel sorry for pedophiles, how it is just awful how they can only get off to thought of little boys and girls.They should all burn in the depths of a fire like hell and the victims should be allowed to string them up and torture them. WTF is wrong with you? Sure they have an illness but you not only sound like you have the serious potential of being one but that you are defending their ****** up behavior. They are no different then a rapist and even worse. They take from innocent children, sexually and mentally **** with their minds for life. How does this make them better then a rapist you sicko?
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posted May 12, 2008 10:39 AM |
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I've grown up with the internet and I'm honestly not sure where ppl meet these pedophiles online
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posted May 12, 2008 11:37 AM |
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Honestly I don't know what it is with people who always go on about pedophiles online. So what if they talk to kids on the internet? They can't really harm them, can they? They don't have to hang around on forums to find children to rape, they could just go to the nearest house with kids. Or wait outside in the evening until a kid walks past alone.
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posted May 12, 2008 05:12 PM |
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You'll feel differently when you have children.
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posted May 12, 2008 05:34 PM |
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You'll feel differently when you have children.
Probably, yeah. But in the mean time you could explain to me why it's so dangerous hanging around on potentially pedophile-containing forums.
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posted May 12, 2008 06:25 PM |
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Yes they can go elsewhere, the problem is that kids are spending a huge amount of time surfing and getting into chat rooms to fulfill their social needs. We are a computer generation. So these same pedophiles’ that would normally get jobs at public schools or go down to local quickie stop to find their next victims, now just log on and have thousands of children at their finger tips. They lure them into thinking they are their age want to hang out at the mall ETC. Some become parent like to them, buying them things and making promises to them. Look at Moon for instance he almost fell for it.
This is just one article by Dateline NBC. Now maybe it is that you guys have no children so you don’t think much about it. Open your eyes, do some research, such as I have done, before flinging ignorance about the screen. This is a serious problem within our internet society. If the internet were a town or a country and the amout of child porn and pedeophila was occuring I don't think anyone with children would want to live their. Therefor we should not allow our children knownly to roam the streets of the web either.
By Chris Hansen
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updated 10:19 a.m. CT, Thurs., Nov. 11, 2004
Instant messaging on the computer has become the phone for kids today. Children spend hours chatting online with their friends, and sometimes with strangers. A recent study found that one in five children online is approached by a sexual predator, a predator who may try to set up a face-to-face meeting. In a Dateline hidden camera investigation, correspondent Chris Hansen catches some of these men in the act. Also, scroll to the bottom of the page for the software mentioned in the story and more resources
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posted May 12, 2008 08:46 PM |
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Go to Chris Hansen with Dateline NBC and watch the slew of videos that he has where he catches pedophiles red handed coming to the potential victim’s homes after he has lured them off the net. Men thinking they are there to have a 12 year give them oral sex. Or an 11 year that claims she will have sex with them. I did the work of pulling one up for you. Copy and paste it for your viewing pleasure so you can get a better understanding of how sick this is.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/22412084#22412088
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posted May 12, 2008 08:58 PM |
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Edited by Spectrum at 21:01, 12 May 2008.
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Yeah, I thought about that point as well, but then I reckoned that if I was a pedophile I'd find it easier just to go to the local store and buy some candy for the blue-eyed little girls than to go through the trouble of registering online and lying and creating a whole new person and blah blah. Oh well. I guess, you're right. I'm not going to argue you.
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posted May 12, 2008 09:31 PM |
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hmmm....... after looking over 9 pages of flaming, arguments, opinions, along with other things........ Its all becoming a confusing wall of text.........
1. The media itself are the most corrupting thing around, it does promote skimpy clothes for girls when not even having a opoinion for guy's clothes exepct usually pants with a shirt.
This promotes a image that will sooner or later be burned into a girls mind, called "You need to be dressed like that, its normal" and yet if you would show of a complete equal of a girls skimpy clothes redesigned to be worn by a guy most people would say: "Its too pervers/sic"..............
And the media usually likes to promote the image of the most helpless girls missing, usually white and "innocent age"....
Movies usually sterotype boys as the greater heroes, usually action movies and the girls are usually kind of helpless......
2. As far as i know, for every sex addicted guy there is a sex addicted girl somewhere. For every shy girl there is a shy boy. And etc.....
b]especially from girls who choose to respect their bodies
I think this is the most confusing sentence ever, doing drugs is disrespecting your body. Being sex-addicted is a completely different matter, most sex-addicted know what to avoid and what to just stay away from.
Sex for getting reputation is just sic however, sex just to get advantages.
3. Yes i support death penalety's, look at the great case that with Dutroux. He should NEVER be allowed to live after doing someting like that, unless he would suffer the rest of his life in a extreme way.
Rape, killing, torturing........... and more...........
4. Well.............. i'm 15.......... my parents only limit at me are that i most do my choirs and behave, i am somewhat independant in comparision to some people i know........... I rarely ask for permission to do stuff, however i avoid doing stuff that will have consecuenses to me(not punishment stuff)........
I usually am camping on my opinions, sometimes even being the "outsider" just to be camping on my opinino.......
5. Rape......... should be banned and the laws should look like Irans raping laws: Death Penality........
Why? If the person who had raped somebody defends himself in court with the fact that he found whatever clothes was worn to be a fetish kind or "It's" behavier was too sexy...... should be punished even more.......... I think somewhere in the Torah(Old Testament or whatever its named) it said that if you raped a women you MUST marry her, i think it really ment: If she got pregnant you would have to take the full fatal draw towards yourself for your action you had done, because society at the time was in such a fasion that women did not have any rigths...... They could not support themself eqomomicaly, if they got pregnant they would have a child on the top of that too!
Its a bizar thing to mention, however in todays socety as educated as we are and as much as we train over the years, and with everything going as it goes.......... it should be easy to just ignore the lust....... It's like touching a steel plate on a own and you know its wrong (it's bad metafor from my side however.)
There is a simple expression that fits in: "Mind over matter".......
Why? Because surrendering to lust like some monkey is not a good thing to do, it makes people twice as stupid as they are.
Sorry for the wall of text people..........
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posted May 12, 2008 10:36 PM |
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Thanks for your input..
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posted May 13, 2008 12:16 PM |
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A recent study found that one in five children online is approached by a sexual predator, a predator who may try to set up a face-to-face meeting.
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posted May 13, 2008 02:30 PM |
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You almost gave into to the sexual perversity of a MALE school teacher that was trying to lure you in to come and show him some love.
And I would have taken full responsibility if I had done so. Fortunately I was intelligent enough to decline.
P.S.: That male teacher is still teaching in our local elementary school Not every pedophile is a rapist. But I don't expect you to understand that.
And by the way, what was the point of highlighting that MALE part?
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That alone sounds sick to the normal average person.
AKA: What the majority group of normal people think is sick IS sick by definition? Personally, I try not to indulge myself in judging things based on personal, subjective feelings. You get freaky situations if you do that (burning gay people in medieval eras, anyone?).
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You say having complete and open internet access is a great thing and we should allow our children to roam nasty porn sights while pedophiles are roaming free to lure naive young boys in such as yourself?
Excuse me, I was pretty sure I declined his requests. You call me naive based on what? The fact I gave in and got myself molested by him? I didn't know that... Also, the fact you are biased shows too clearly.
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Of course I will assume you have no children and pray you never do.
Don't worry, I won't even consider putting children into this messed up world
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I’ am not the only one who thinks there should be regulation on the net, you are grossly mistaken.
Some people don't need a large group of people as support to back up their statements.
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The point is while you were whacking off to John Holms does Europe alone with no supervision; I was talking to my children openly about sex.
And your point is?
Basic assumptions aside, a wide variety of sources and information is far more enlightening than a single source (parents), which for that matter can be very subjective. I dread to think what homophobes would teach their children.
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Don’t get me wrong, does the normal teenager spank the chicken, yes. Is regulating porn sight availability and certain chat rooms (that are full of pedophiles and nastiness) wrong to do*** no!
Hmmm yes, regulation.... "You must be 18 or older to enter this si--" *click* OK.
You don't have many kinks do you?
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And do me favor and don’t aggravate me with your Bull **** about how we should feel sorry for pedophiles, how it is just awful how they can only get off to thought of little boys and girls.They should all burn in the depths of a fire like hell and the victims should be allowed to string them up and torture them.
Behold the difference between one who grew up more tolerant with the internet... And one who didn't 
Not every pedophile is a disgusting rapist. I Do NOT sympathize with rapists. I DO sympathize with pedophiles that choose NOT to touch and harm children, and instead choose to live with their burden. For THOSE people I have the deepest sympathy. And the last thing they need is a judgemental freak like you who deems them disgusting rapists based on something they CANNOT change - the fact they are sexually attracted to children. And you're telling ME my biggest concern is when my first pubic hair will show ?
Saying pedophiles by definition are rapists is like saying black people are criminals.
And therefor:
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Open your eyes, do some research, such as I have done, before flinging ignorance about the screen.
This comment made me crack up hysterically...
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WTF is wrong with you? Sure they have an illness but you not only sound like you have the serious potential of being one but that you are defending their ****** up behavior.
See, this is where we are different You see something you don't understand - people who are aroused by children - and instantly conclude that an ILLNESS is the only logical explaination for their desires. Very cheap. Personally, I believe pedophilia is no more than a sexual fetish, or a sexual orientation. But I won't conclude that is the only truth, since I simply do not know.
And if you must know: No, I do not feel sexually attracted to children, nor would I ever feel a desire to do anything with them. Fun isn't it, making such quick assumptions that lack backup?
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They are no different then a rapist and even worse.
I pity your kid(s). You see, that is what _I_ learned from the internet: You cannot judge people based on their sexual desires, only on their ACTIONS. That's one lesson you seemed to have missed in your upbringing. Oopsie?
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They take from innocent children, sexually and mentally **** with their minds for life. How does this make them better then a rapist you sicko?
Please do quote me where I said I sympathize with pedophiles that actually rape children.... or was that you making an assumption again?
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posted May 13, 2008 02:53 PM |
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As always I can only agree with Moonlith .
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posted May 13, 2008 04:18 PM |
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Saying pedophiles by definition are rapists is like saying black people are criminals.
That's not a very good analogy. A better one would be: "Saying pedophiles by definition are rapists is like saying people who get angry are murderers." I'm not saying I agree with the point behind the analogy, but I thought you'd like your analogy to at least make sense.
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You cannot judge people based on their sexual desires, nly on their ACTIONS.
That's true. However, exploiting children by watching and buying/selling child pornography is an action. Also, lying about your age online and having sexually explicit discussions with 10 year olds is an action. There are other actions aside from rape associated with pedophilia that are damaging to children.
If you want to look at it another way, I think we can agree that rape is pretty much the acme of criminal sexual behavior. However, I'm sure you are aware - and would agree - that there are other forms of criminal sexual behavior that, while not as physically and psychologically damaging as rape, are still wrong. For instance, sexual harassment is a form of criminal sexual behavior that is wrong, but which also falls well short of rape.
The point being that while you are correct that all pedophiles are not rapists, there are many pedophiles who are not rapists but who are nonetheless criminals. There are probably also pedophiles that do nothing wrong and live a "normal" life. I have no problem with these people per se. However, if you are using the internet as a vehicle to prey upon children, even with no intent to do actual physical harm (i.e, invite them over to your house to have sex with them), you are still indulging in deceitful, potentially psychologically harmful behavior, and you either need to be punished (if you're doing it maliciously and luring children into sexually explicit conversations under falst pretenses) or at least voluntarily seek the help of mental heath professionals.
As with the new, better analogy above, just because all people who get angry are not murderers, doesn't mean that non-murdering angry people can't be criminals. People who can't control their anger may also be violent, indulging in vandalism and assault. Also, you have to realize that crimes often escalate, meaning that while I may not be a murderer NOW (I only beat the crap out of people), because of my demonstrated inability to control my anger and my predelection for violence, I am more likely to cause murder in the future than someone who CAN control their emotions. Likewise, while all pedophiles are not rapists, a pedophile who cannot control his urges - but who is not (yet) a rapist - is still much more prone to the rape of a child in the future than a pedophile who CAN control their urges or someone who doesn't have those urges at all. Of course, almost everyone gets angry. It is only the people who ACT upon that anger in a violent way who need to go to jail, and anger-derived criminal actions are not limited to murder.
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That's not a very good analogy. A better one would be: "Saying pedophiles by definition are rapists is like saying people who get angry are murderers." I'm not saying I agree with the point behind the analogy, but I thought you'd like your analogy to at least make sense.
Hmmm I disagree. Because in my opinion, being a pedophile, like the colour of your skin, is not something you can change or be held accountable for. For anger, you can.
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Also, lying about your age online and having sexually explicit discussions with 10 year olds is an action. There are other actions aside from rape associated with pedophilia that are damaging to children.
I hear that a lot. I had VERY sexually explicit chats with this former teacher when I was 12. As far as I know, I wasn't damaged.
Moreover, the beauty of the internet is the fact you are anonymous, and can choose who you wish to interact with. In 99% of the cases, people you chat with over an online chat, you don't tend to see again, unless it is an actual tight community - in which pretending to be someone else is quite difficult. (And IF youngsters hang in tight online communities, it is never a sexual one.)
Most people around that age are actually aware you can pretend to be someone else, and I have yet to see how it can be damaging.
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The point being that while you are correct that all pedophiles are not rapists, there are many pedophiles who are not rapists but who are nonetheless criminals. There are probably also pedophiles that do nothing wrong and live a "normal" life. I have no problem with these people per se. However, if you are using the internet as a vehicle to prey upon children, even with no intent to do actual physical harm (i.e, invite them over to your house to have sex with them), you are still indulging in deceitful, potentially psychologically harmful behavior, and you either need to be punished (if you're doing it maliciously and luring children into sexually explicit conversations under falst pretenses) or at least voluntarily seek the help of mental heath professionals.
Here I disagree. The beauty of online chat is that you ALWAYS have the very easy option of "ignore". And if a child really doesn't wish to indulge in sexually tinted conversations, the button is easily pushed. It is the CHILD'S choice wether or not a pedophile online gets a chance.
Kids that complain they have psychological trauma due to a sexually explicit internet conversation are at least part to be blamed for listening to it or responding to it, and moreover should develop some mental stability.
You CANNOT be harmed over online chat.
The only way you COULD be harmed is if you fall in love with what seems to be a same-age peer over the internet, only to discover it is in fact some old pervert. But in my opinion, this is no different than discovering your real life lover has been deceiving you in whatever way. And even THEN you could blame the kid for trusting someone over the internet, as it is a general rule you can never be sure who you are chatting to.
And as far as I know, kids ARE being warned about that.
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As with the new, better analogy above, just because all people who get angry are not murderers, doesn't mean that non-murdering angry people can't be criminals.
I still disagree with the analogy
And that aside: EVERYONE can be a criminal.
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Likewise, while all pedophiles are not rapists, a pedophile who cannot control his urges - but who is not (yet) a rapist - is still much more prone to the rape of a child in the future than a pedophile who CAN control their urges or someone who doesn't have those urges at all. Of course, almost everyone gets angry. It is only the people who ACT upon that anger in a violent way who need to go to jail, and anger-derived criminal actions are not limited to murder.
And likewise, only pedophiles that actually indulge in criminal behavior should be judged for their actions. And we seem to differ in our opinion wether sexually explicit chats and deceit over online chat is to be considered criminal behavior. Disapproving of it is one thing, but that doesn't make it criminal.
But this is straying from the main point I believe
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