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posted February 14, 2019 08:42 PM |
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JollyJoker said:
Excuses for failures here and for inadequacies there. Always the same story: Need sleep, too much to drink, too much stress, life's too hard, things were not right, unlucky - not my fault. 
so, how's that inadequacy thing going for you? from what i read of your posts in this thread... and others... not well? 
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posted February 14, 2019 09:42 PM |
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I suppose you just screwed up another single word - a thousand times over -, this time trying to read instead of write.
Would explain a lot. Although, maybe not, like.
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posted February 14, 2019 10:40 PM |
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posted February 14, 2019 10:44 PM |
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posted February 14, 2019 11:29 PM |
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At this point I don't even know if you're just being sarcastic or you have a serious crisis of identity...
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posted February 14, 2019 11:31 PM |
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he is right, to please horses women, we are capable of doing very stupid things.
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posted February 14, 2019 11:38 PM |
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Oh, come on, that's way too modest, we are capable of doing very stupid things all the time - and even repeatedly!
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posted February 15, 2019 01:12 AM |
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JollyJoker said:
And people are wondering why there is such a thing as feminism, lol.
While what I said is true, I'm not arguing about the 70 cents on a dollar, I find that legit. But you are romanticizing things, there is such a thing as feminism cause the owners of the means of production find more useful to have two employees working overtime and spending any cent they own just to buy the essential stuff, while my father would, in his early years, gain enough to have my mother as an housewife, pay for me and my sister's education and still make some savings...
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posted February 15, 2019 01:18 AM |
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@ jj's posted article:
Written by a woman. Who'd've thought? Men do more dangerous things, and take greater risks. We're also more prone to suicide. Our mortality rates are higher for specific reasons.
When it comes to stupid deaths, men die because they did something that required balls.
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posted February 15, 2019 08:50 AM |
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posted February 15, 2019 08:53 AM |
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bloodsucker said:
JollyJoker said:
And people are wondering why there is such a thing as feminism, lol.
While what I said is true
You are giving yourself too much credit here.
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posted February 15, 2019 09:36 AM |
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This is getting ridiculous. You guys should go through sex reassignment surgery, don't keep yourself in such state of denial and frustration.
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posted February 15, 2019 11:33 AM |
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I really wonder what kind of a problem you guys have to concede equal rights to women? I mean, it's part of the human rights declaration which is part of the constitution, at least in my country. It should be a matter of course - but if it never had been a problem, it wouldn't have needed special consideration, wouldn't it?
So what is the reason for your denial that "if there haven't been equal rights, it was all in the name of survival"? Was your Mum bad to you? Is the islamic world such a good example that "it's all in the name of survival"? How come you don't defend THEM, when there never has been any oppression, when it's all about competence?
It's kind of reminiscent of the "Auschwitz lie" - you know, it's all a fabrication of the Jewish world conspiration. Same here - all lies of the crazy feminists who want to emasculate the poor men.
It's indeed very ridiculous, but the joke is on you.
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posted February 15, 2019 12:06 PM |
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BECAUSE THEY ALREADY HAVE EQUAL RIGHTS, AND BETTER THAN. You'd snowing NOTICE that if you bothered to make an attempt to pull your head out of your ass and SEE wtf we've been trying to TELL you.
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posted February 15, 2019 12:23 PM |
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posted February 15, 2019 12:29 PM |
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JollyJoker said:
I really wonder what kind of a problem you guys have to concede equal rights to women? I mean, it's part of the human rights declaration which is part of the constitution, at least in my country. It should be a matter of course - but if it never had been a problem, it wouldn't have needed special consideration, wouldn't it
If you are counting me as "you guys", where the hell did you get the notion I'm against equality? Weren't my opinions here clear enough on this matter? Most of us here aren't against equality but the aggressive rhetoric of SJW or feminists who seem to be twisting facts/opinions to literally witch-hunt white males (I might be speaking for myself here on this forum though, I don't know the real intention behind other peoples words). If you mean guys like fred79 or Salamandre, I think that at some point they simply switched their rhetoric to match their "opponents" aggressive one.
If there's someone that needs to have a check of his identity it's you, because you're so one-sidedly defending women that it seems unnatural for a man without identity issues. Makes me feel you don't have your own opinion but you're just relaying what your superiors (be it your wife/girlfriend or code of conduct in your workplace) want you to think.
Most of me and my friends/family/colleagues here in Poland are watching what goes in the West from a distance and with awe. We can't stop to think that something horribly derailed in your societies. Immigrant aggression is widely and officially accepted, "Barnevernet" and other welfare institutions are taking the children of normal healthy families away from them based on some idiotic charges, and some of the greatest man in history are ridiculed and belittled because they were white men. And we don't hear about this everyday changes from TV news, but from people who actually live in your countries. That's the difference because you probably only watch news on Poland, you don't want to leave your happy borders. You're asking why do we leave our country then? Because there is a big disproportion in income, mainly coming from the fact your wars have devastated our country and we didn't receive as much economic help as you after those ended, we were left alone by the West and still need to recover (to see the difference just compare economic growth of RFN and NRD which were held by different "occupants"), so it's still better to be paid 4x our normal salary (we do pay your taxes so buzz off).
That doesn't mean the morality isn't changing here also (SJW's are everywhere), I just think there are still more reasonable people (not counting half-brained Nationalist who we can find everywhere) here who aren't swayed by this social justice ideology. You can call us primitives, but I like it here. You can (mostly) voice your opinion on anything and you won't be insta-charged with intolerance. As a reminder Poland has one of the longest history of tolerance in Europe. For instance while you were having the religion wars in XVI century, we had freedom of religion. Or have taken Jewish immigrants since XII century after they were driven out from various European countries. Or have a Muslim Tatar minority with which we have lived in harmony for hundreds of years.
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posted February 15, 2019 12:59 PM |
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So you have no gender pay gap in Poland, there are no gender stereotypes, and you do not have one of the strongest abortion laws in Europe allowing abortion only in case of rape, danger for mother or handicaps of the child - and the last point is supposed to be removed in a toughening of the law?
If that's the look of equal rights in one of the most "tolerant" countries of the worls, as you assure - then how does it look elsewhere in the world?
Your perspective is seriously warped.
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If there's someone that needs to have a check of his identity it's you, because you're so one-sidedly defending women that it seems unnatural for a man without identity issues. Makes me feel you don't have your own opinion but you're just relaying what your superiors (be it your wife/girlfriend or code of conduct in your workplace) want you to think.
I'm taking serious offense from your notion, that a man must have identity issues or be under influence of a woman, when they side with them on gender issues. This is class struggle rhetoric. How could one not sympathize with the cause of ones mother, wife and daughter, I ask you?
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posted February 15, 2019 01:14 PM |
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For the record, i'm absolutely for equality. And everything it entails. The current double-standards across the board on major media outlets and under law; and the sjw's, feminists, and racist blacks, need to cease and desist their current ploys, rhetoric, and grip on western society; and work toward actual equality, instead of the preferential, one-sided benefits they continually demand, and have been ALLOWED to demand, for far too long.
What we have now in the western world(because i have to spell this out for jj like he's snowing five), is anything BUT equality. What we have, is a bunch of parasites decrying "racism", "sexism", and the like, while they are getting preferential treatment, in actuality.
And so will go the retorts, the cries of foul, and blah, blah, blah. I'm done in this thread. It's an utter waste of time to argue with people's FEELINGS. Hey, feelings? It's us. Reality. Wake the snow up, would ya please? You're embarrassing yourselves, ffs. 
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posted February 15, 2019 01:53 PM |
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Just out of curiosity, Fred, since when would any law in the from you so-called Western World allow to forbid anyone to demand something?
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posted February 15, 2019 02:37 PM |
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JollyJoker said:
So you have no gender pay gap in Poland,
Yes, and we're progressively working on it. Like your countries do.
JollyJoker said:
and you do not have one of the strongest abortion laws in Europe allowing abortion only in case of rape, danger for mother or handicaps of the child - and the last point is supposed to be removed in a toughening of the law?
While I don't have any clear opinion on this subtle matter it is also a very hard subject to discuss. There is no clear answer for the right "choice" (protection of life as a value vs. reality/science) even if you think there is, because your laws tell that. Besides those weren't regulated yet because our ruling party has strong ties to the church which still has strong influence here and always "buys" a few votes. It's politics.
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If that's the look of equal rights in one of the most "tolerant" countries of the worls, as you assure - then how does it look elsewhere in the world?
I'm not telling you we are the "most tolerant" country. We are far from it. I'm telling you we have a long tradition of living in harmony with other nations so we know something on the subject whereas SJW America has a history of murdering the locals for land or building their wealth on slavery and exploitation of other nations which it does to this day (just watch the news if you do like them so). Or your country which is still, however you like to avoid the subject by dubbing our "Polish concentration camps", seen as being the perpetrators of one of the biggest tragedy in the history of human civilization. So lay off a bit before we start to throw names.
JollyJoker said:
Your perspective is seriously warped.
So is yours.
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I'm taking serious offense from your notion, that a man must have identity issues or be under influence of a woman, when they side with them on gender issues. This is class struggle rhetoric. How could one not sympathize with the cause of ones mother, wife and daughter, I ask you?
That is also something I'm wondering, because for me it is normal behavior to protect the rights of women whose blood, sweat and tears take a great part in making our civilization better. But there is a slight difference between sympathizing with one side and a full-blown offensive against the other side. That's when I see "issues".
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