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SKPRIMUS
Promising
Supreme Hero
The One and the Prime
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posted September 14, 2009 02:16 AM |
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Quote: ...wanted to try retribution and demons...But it was mad fun.
@JoonasTo: I was curious as to how demons could get retribution, but yeah atk 3 with retrib is not much different from normal atk but at least defence was sky-high plus not bad light spells. First time funny to see zehir special, looks like it might block res/consume arti, esp with earths! so the special could be a curse rather than blessing. Nice to see fun games
@veco: thanks never seen gobs crippling wound before & was wondering whether it actually worked. Also valiant but doomed effort in trying to best INGA with necro dark (she's got nice stats, heh?)
@Elvin: haven't seen that syl build work in my tests yet [also atk 3], altho only tested with retrib/less luck/less favoured agst dwa. Bad spells I presume, altho it might work if lucky or horseshoe available
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Hope defeats despair - "a blatant clue"
too many idiots in VW
"to lose is to win, and he who wins shall lose"
bashing orcus
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted September 17, 2009 06:42 PM |
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Edited by Elvin at 00:02, 18 Sep 2009.
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Fresh duels!
Godulio seems a pretty decent player Lacks a little duel experience but he could grow to be pretty strong with some games.
He should have a replay to share.
As for domino it was for fun
One more. Even with mentor wasting a lot of my gold my artifact combination and the specific build provided a swift cheesy victory. Must be the first time in ages I pull off this strategy vs necro, risky but it can pay off nicely.
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pei
Famous Hero
Fresh Air.
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posted September 18, 2009 07:09 AM |
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Im sorry for the off-topic and all but is this "DUEL THING" such a big deal? I only tried it once, dont remembre if hot-seat or against AI but it seemed ...well..boring. Itīs like letīs forget all about the tactics of adventure map and clash street fighter style. Now, i know that fight have a huuuuuge amount of tactics to be displayed but it makes me a bit angry cause it seems that H5 was centered on war tactics while leaving the adventure map without major improvements. I do not count 3D engine and camera work as a major improvement cause its not the graphics what has attracted most of the elder players.
So...resuming...should i try this?Should i invest my time on investigating this or is it just picking an available duel hero and then rumble?
Again, sorry for the off-topic, im not much of a Temple of Ashan kind of guy..
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SKPRIMUS
Promising
Supreme Hero
The One and the Prime
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posted September 18, 2009 08:09 AM |
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imho, it's a BIG thing for me as I have no multi-player full H5 games offline
anyway, I'm not sure what you tried before, but Elvin's Duel Map is nothing like the duels that come with the game. You get to level up automatically to 21 choosing most of the skills/perks that one wants & buy artifacts/creatures & thus every game is different.
Unfortunately I can't play online for couple weeks but I'm sure plenty of others are willing to help you get into it.
I never duel AI, rather hotseat myself to learn appropriate tactics vs various factions.
Anyway, I don't think anyone has much to lose if they try one game, it's just fun, not serious
[I don't think your post is off-topic]
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Hope defeats despair - "a blatant clue"
too many idiots in VW
"to lose is to win, and he who wins shall lose"
bashing orcus
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pei
Famous Hero
Fresh Air.
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posted September 18, 2009 08:54 AM |
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Thankls man, im not afraid of loosing, i even prefer to start as a loser and climb my way up than living the pressure of being the one that cant loose if u know what i mean
I havent decided yet if playing HOMM online again as i kind of have a strong addiction to it and cost me a year at the university...so im crossing fingers that nothing like that happens again...ive a really addictive personality as i have registered in this community not so long ago and cant seem to stay away from it. H3 has been a sweet sweet doom for me but i have learnt to enjoy the game by not always trying to win and know i even have a laugh loosing.
So...if i come back i will propose u a nice quality time, perhaps not the best H5 player, but fun indeed!
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted September 18, 2009 09:01 AM |
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Edited by Elvin at 09:03, 18 Sep 2009.
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I was easily bored myself because the duel heroes were not only fixed without hope for variety but also unbalanced compared to each other. The duel map is instead customizable so games are different every time, also adds a phychological level of warfare since it can be a game of rock, paper or scissors. The more you explore the tactical possibilities the more counters you find and ways to surprise your opponent even after 2 years since it came out. I actually enjoy the 3d environments and H5 eyecandy but the adventure map did indeed not get a big boost compared to previous games. You could argue that you got some new adventure locations but gameplay-wise it's pretty similar.
But that is not the reason why many people turned to duels or arena. For one real games are time consuming and as we grow older there is less and less time Also some matchups can end within the first turn just because you could get an unbalanced artifact combination(see ring of speed & staff of netherworld) or because you were lucky to act first and score a lucky multiple attack. That can turn 6-10 hour games unsatisfying, especially if you can't afford to play often. A lot of people play for the final battle so it's hardly surprising.
Edit: That's the spirit But don't start losing university years again
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SKPRIMUS
Promising
Supreme Hero
The One and the Prime
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posted September 18, 2009 09:09 AM |
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Edited by SKPRIMUS at 09:10, 18 Sep 2009.
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@pei, you've already played HoMM online before! [hardly anyone wins first few times online]
I understand about the time/addiction thingy... it helps sometimes when you actually can't play due to some reason
luckily these duels only last like 1 hour so if one sets a limit of one duel per day & don't have too many people in one's contact list, then one can't spend too much time playing anyway
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Hope defeats despair - "a blatant clue"
too many idiots in VW
"to lose is to win, and he who wins shall lose"
bashing orcus
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pei
Famous Hero
Fresh Air.
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posted September 18, 2009 09:10 AM |
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I see ur point Elvin. So, i have a good and a bad comment. The first one would be that Ubi people did realize of this and came with this duel map idea. The bad thing is that there is a need of such a thing...a small chance in the battlefield can mean a great thing, i know, but if the destiny of a battle can be set by only one chance of one creature then it should be: a)You have been owned b)He got lucky . If the b) case is what has lead heroes players to the duels then the game has conceptual errors. No one would play Civilization if the decisive final momment would be only one dice...i think. Am i wrong with this?
BTW have u read the mail i sent you?
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted September 18, 2009 09:17 AM |
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No the duel map is my idea Actually I had that idea back in H3 times but this was the first time I went through all this balancing and organizing. Duel mode is another thing, ubi put it there to look cool but never bothered to expand it, balance it, add new options.
Hadn't seen your mail, go ahead You know what to watch out for so let's get hot!
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pei
Famous Hero
Fresh Air.
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posted September 18, 2009 09:22 AM |
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You may want to look for some dry ice...
@SKPRIMUS You are certainly right in that one!
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted October 01, 2009 04:53 PM |
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Edited by Azagal at 17:23, 01 Oct 2009.
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Who wants to spar a bit?
EDIT: Are you trying to sabotage my upcoming tournament participations? Nobody wants to spar with poor me?
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"All I can see is what's in front of me. And all I can do is keep moving forward" - The Heir Wielder of Names, Seeker of Thrones, King of Swords, Breaker of Infinities, Wheel Smashing Lord
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blizzardboy
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Nerf Herder
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posted October 01, 2009 05:42 PM |
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Azagal, my delinquent friend, how you doing?
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"Folks, I don't trust children. They're here to replace us."
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted October 01, 2009 05:45 PM |
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I'll tell you everything after I kicked your ass. Now get on Hamachi!
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"All I can see is what's in front of me. And all I can do is keep moving forward" - The Heir Wielder of Names, Seeker of Thrones, King of Swords, Breaker of Infinities, Wheel Smashing Lord
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blizzardboy
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Nerf Herder
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posted October 01, 2009 05:48 PM |
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temple duels / 123
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"Folks, I don't trust children. They're here to replace us."
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rottenvenetic
Known Hero
Derusticated
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posted October 01, 2009 06:27 PM |
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OK, sorry for cluttering the 2nd season tournament thread with an overlong post
Well, my glove is thrown, even if Elvin will pick it up and choke me with it
Btw that was a mean Anwen!
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted October 01, 2009 07:15 PM |
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Edited by Azagal at 19:15, 01 Oct 2009.
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Finished the duel with Blizzard and looking back on it, it isn't a very satisfying one. I was basically saved by Ring of Caution again (much like in my match against Larry) and the fact that I got Defense and thus power of Endurance. And the fact that he only had 40 Mana with only advanced Light Magic it seems. I went Dark and Puppeted his überstack of Palas while the rest of his units took their sweet time crossing over to my side. I was lucky also that he didn't use purge on the Palas. So this really wasn't satisfactory. It was fun but not a good victory.
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"All I can see is what's in front of me. And all I can do is keep moving forward" - The Heir Wielder of Names, Seeker of Thrones, King of Swords, Breaker of Infinities, Wheel Smashing Lord
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eldERaNe
Tavern Dweller
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posted October 01, 2009 07:16 PM |
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hello! noob here, anyone wants to have a go on a duel with me?
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted October 01, 2009 07:17 PM |
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Who called for me?
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"All I can see is what's in front of me. And all I can do is keep moving forward" - The Heir Wielder of Names, Seeker of Thrones, King of Swords, Breaker of Infinities, Wheel Smashing Lord
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veco
Legendary Hero
who am I?
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posted October 01, 2009 07:35 PM |
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Edited by veco at 19:35, 01 Oct 2009.
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Played 3 games with Maniek, on the map which doesn't allow orcs to get artifacts
1st-Dungeon vs Inferno
Ever seen a Warlock with truly Dwarven statistics? 14Def, adv Defense + Power of Endurance. I never felt it myself but when you see 6 Raiders die on Nightmares 1st charge... you feel sorry for the Demonlord.
2nd-Sylvan vs Haven
Dark was a good approach for Haven but I believe that it could've been used better. Not to mention that Puppet is almost never worth it with low spellpower. Some grave tactical errors too
3rd-Orcs vs Dungeon
From the beginning of the game I was sure he had Inferno. So I took 4 level on shatter dark, no magic resistance, Gotai with no good warcries (Fear My Roar/Horde's Anger) and no arties (because I couldn't Townportal back with a Barb ofc. I was SO lucky that he picked Summonning. This just shows how bad Summonning magic is in a Dungeon-Orcs matchup. I can go wrong with skills, without arties and vital warcries and even then Summoning can't help you.
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eldERaNe
Tavern Dweller
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posted October 01, 2009 09:20 PM |
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so still got some time here, anyone else wants to fight me? I should emphasise again that I'm a noob
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