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blizzardboy
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Nerf Herder
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posted October 11, 2009 09:17 PM |
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Err, who is who?
On an unrelated note, I don't see why Ossir shouldn't start with his archers (either that or none of the specialists should start with anything). Arcanes are a big deal in full games because of their creeping power, but in these duel matches I don't get what's so amazing about them. I'd rather face Ossir over Ylthin and her unicorns of doom. All of the melee unit specialists are actually good in these matches (except for maybe the sucky zombie lord). Razzak is deadly. The Vampire Lord of course is good. Etc.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted October 11, 2009 09:50 PM |
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Quote: (except for maybe the sucky zombie lord)
You shall burn for your heresy.
Also have you seen Ossir kill a whole stack with a lucky arcane shot?
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted October 11, 2009 10:08 PM |
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Dude AA aren't overrated. They do the damage equal to an empowered lucky Implosion on range and defense doesn't even matter to them oO. You don't even need Ossir for that. Just Luck or Favoured enemy. They are scary as snow man. But if you're online in our temple bout you can let me get Ossir and not prioritize my Arcanes let's see how you fare.
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blizzardboy
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Nerf Herder
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posted October 11, 2009 10:10 PM |
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Quote: Dude AA aren't overrated. They do the damage equal to an empowered lucky Implosion
wut?
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted October 11, 2009 10:12 PM |
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Edited by Azagal at 22:14, 11 Oct 2009.
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Come I'll show you if I get Sylvan (ok maybe not THAT bad but 1,5 k damage isn't a big surprise versus them so I'd hardly say they're overrated.)
EDIT:
"Err, who is who" I'm Shadya and Ornella.
You find me on hamachi.
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blizzardboy
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Nerf Herder
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posted October 11, 2009 10:15 PM |
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Luck and favored enemy are attributed to the hero, not the unit. You could annihilate a stack with a luck + favored attack with your dragons also, and the dragons can also tank and have better initiative.
I'm not saying they're a bad unit, but IMO the High Druids, Unicorns, and Dragons are all more valuable then them.
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rottenvenetic
Known Hero
Derusticated
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posted October 11, 2009 10:59 PM |
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The problem with Arcanes is that if you don't elliminate them by killing, blocking or dark magic they will go Ted Bundy on your stacks one by one. Only the dragons are more dangerous than them.
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SKPRIMUS
Promising
Supreme Hero
The One and the Prime
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posted October 12, 2009 01:12 AM |
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Quote: ...I'd rather face Ossir over Ylthin and her unicorns of doom. All of the melee unit specialists are actually good in these matches (except for maybe the sucky zombie lord). Razzak is deadly. The Vampire Lord of course is good. Etc.
Err, I agree that I like Ylthin/Gilraen better in these duels than Ossir as less chance to neuter the unihorn/windrider advantage but I think more AA's than normal can be super in some situations... I'm not sure that Razzak/Vamp lord is deadly (= I don't seem to win with those)
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rottenvenetic
Known Hero
Derusticated
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posted October 16, 2009 02:35 PM |
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Oh, and keep in mind that Orson is awesome. I actually managed to hold my own against Elvin with him. That game ended in a disconnect though, so it remains undecided.
And I really don't get why so many of you are bashing the Zombies, they work perfectly in their role. This is not heroes 3
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Azagal
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted October 20, 2009 11:42 PM |
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Edited by Azagal at 23:48, 20 Oct 2009.
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And I just game out of another 1 hour long game with Blizzard with Zehir by my side once more. And he brought Defense with him once more xD. Long long intense match where his Rune of Magic Control gave me a heart attack once I had casted AA oO. Was a fun game. I'm really beginning to like the Master of Elements.
EDIT: Then again I only won because of him going summoning without Runic Armour. If I'd been Light Magic (especially with Helmar) I'm pretty sure I'd been fried oh and if his luck had stolen my AA instead of my Endurance^^. AA+Golems rock.
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Rubycus
Known Hero
-student of the mind-
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posted October 22, 2009 12:39 AM |
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Two random duels, with me and Elvin. We did Orcs vs. Dungeon, and swapped roles in match 2. It resulted in two victories to the Orcs; me and Elvin won one match each!
Rubycus as Dungeon vs Elvin as Stronghold
http://www.speedyshare.com/371379185.html
Rubycus as Stronghold and Elvin as Dungeon
http://www.speedyshare.com/649413313.html
didn't remember how to rewrite the url. Enjoy!
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Mytical
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Chaos seeking Harmony
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posted October 22, 2009 01:45 AM |
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Just fought blizzard, got extreamly lucky and actually won one of the games (the other two was slaughters). Think the ONLY reason I won the first was because it was inferno vs stronghold. Even then it was way too close. He beat me 1-2 but I am just stoked I won a game!
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Azagal
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Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted October 22, 2009 01:47 AM |
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So I guess you were Stronghold in that match up? You think you're in the mood for another duel^^?
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Mytical
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Chaos seeking Harmony
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posted October 22, 2009 01:51 AM |
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Absolutely, and no I was Deleb (inferno) and he was Haggash (Stronghold) without shatter dark. Dark pretty much owned the day.
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Azagal
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Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
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posted October 22, 2009 01:58 AM |
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Edited by Azagal at 01:59, 22 Oct 2009.
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Woaw. In my opinion it's more difficult for Inferno to pull it off simply because their tiny defense values vs. Orcs insane damage and high defense stats can prove to be a hard nut to crack. Even without shatter dark they can be a freakin tough nut to crack. Now if I could just see that replay...
EDIT: You didn't go WM did you?
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blizzardboy
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Nerf Herder
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posted October 22, 2009 02:01 AM |
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Here's the replays:
In my futile lifelong quest to make the one-trick-pony faction perform a 2nd trick, it ended in disaster. Inferno diced through me with glee:
Stronghold Bliz, Inferno Mytical
2nd game was an old-fashioned runic slaughter. Mytical was inferno again, except her troops were hopeless:
Fortress Bliz, Inferno Mytical
3rd game was my dark Necro vs Mytical's destructive wizard. Naughty naughty Mytical didn't use MotW, and I had 35% destructive protection anyway, so it was an uphill fight either way:
Necro Bliz, Academy Mytical
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blizzardboy
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Undefeatable Hero
Nerf Herder
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posted October 22, 2009 02:02 AM |
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Man Az, you think Inferno sucks vs everything Fortress is the only faction they have trouble with. Everything else is fair game, and they tend to perform really well against orc.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted October 22, 2009 02:06 AM |
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Edited by Elvin at 02:07, 22 Oct 2009.
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Inferno rocks your socks versus orcs. By no means hopeless but with a little luck I'd say the demons have an edge.
Edit: Hey why does your first link have William's picture..? Something is fishy here
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blizzardboy
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Undefeatable Hero
Nerf Herder
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posted October 22, 2009 02:21 AM |
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lol, I was going to make a friendly stab about his angry look, but I decided against it. For some reason the copy/pastes don't seem to stick for Mediafire. Fixed it.
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Mytical
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Chaos seeking Harmony
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posted October 22, 2009 03:38 AM |
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*shakes head* Man I am getting thumped all over the place. Gonna be black and blue for a week. . Still a whole lot of fun.
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