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kodial79
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posted October 07, 2011 08:33 AM |
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I'm speaking to whoever I may refer too. Doesn't have to be someone in particular here. But whoever takes offense is probably included.
As for my participation. I've been participating long before your movement existed. I didn't join you, you joined me now. I was always on that side, never believed their lies. Whenever was a protest for the past 15 years, I was there too.
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TheBaron
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posted October 07, 2011 08:34 AM |
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Are you down there now, participating? It looks like as fine a time as any to join in. Maybe you could make a difference?
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kodial79
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posted October 07, 2011 08:38 AM |
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Down there where? I am not an American, and Wall Street is a bit too far from here.
However, day in and day out, these last few months, I join the rest of the indignants in the squares where they gather.
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TheBaron
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posted October 16, 2011 12:15 AM |
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Edited by TheBaron at 00:29, 16 Oct 2011.
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Things are starting to get pretty intense. US citizens and Australians don't seem to get much press coverage of OWS, but Times Square now has at least 15,000 people protesting in it. Italy has had pretty epic riots. Portugal had over 50,000 protesting in Lisbon, the list goes on... it has become a massive worldwide movement. I'll be in Melbourne City square today Occupying the city and discussing the future with strangers, I imagine.
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Tsar-Ivor
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posted October 16, 2011 02:01 AM |
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The lack of news coverage is something to take note of, lol. You'd think those morons who are so bored with their thumbs up their @sses and so desperate for news that they hack peoples phones. Te fact that they're not even bothering to comment on the events is nothing short of jaw-dropping  .
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TheBaron
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posted October 16, 2011 02:05 AM |
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350,000 people are protesting in Rome. 60,000 people are protesting throughout NYC, many of them in Times Square. 10 people killed and 50 wounded in Yemen. Over a million protesting in Spain. Hundreds of Berliners have been arrested for protesting.
As I listen to a live feed from Times Square, police have just kettled and arrested people after telling them to leave the square via 46th.
Police are blocking non-mainstream media from broadcasting in the street saying that they need a 'press pass'. Things are getting a little tense, but the protest is still completely non-violent in NYC.
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del_diablo
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posted October 16, 2011 02:14 AM |
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I find it amusing that social news was impossible 10 years ago, but now its possible for the social media to allow such a large protest as this to be kept in a sort of spotlight.
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Fauch
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posted October 16, 2011 02:52 AM |
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it would not be the 1st time that the police starts the violence 
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kodial79
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posted October 16, 2011 01:51 PM |
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The lack of news coverage is something to take note of, lol. You'd think those morons who are so bored with their thumbs up their @sses and so desperate for news that they hack peoples phones. Te fact that they're not even bothering to comment on the events is nothing short of jaw-dropping .
Mainstream media are owned by the so called 1%. Here in my country, Goldman Sachs owns one of the most popular tv channels. Ofcourse they're gonna ignore the whole thing or maybe concentrate on its bad side. Has it been any rioting? Any damage on property? They're gonna cover that. Police brutality? What police brutality?
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Warmonger
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posted October 16, 2011 02:35 PM |
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I agree with these movements, event though I don't need to worry about job perspectives or equality issues.
The protest is against new class / capitalism system, rising from mysterious financial frauds and dominant position of international corporations. They are getting more money using their power, and gain more power thanks to the money - while the average citizen loses and has nothing to say. Time to break that wheel.
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Fauch
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posted October 16, 2011 04:36 PM |
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well money is virtual, but our number is real
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TheBaron
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posted October 17, 2011 01:03 PM |
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Edited by TheBaron at 13:05, 17 Oct 2011.
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I am now Occupying and sleeping down in City Square, Melbourne, Australia.
It's amazing. With the help of some other teachers, we have formed an Education Reform Working Group. Our group is building an Education Centre which will enable people to self educate and be educated by visiting scholars and experts, as well as facilitate a range of other activities.
It's an exciting time.
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Brukernavn
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posted October 27, 2011 11:13 PM |
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OmegaDestroyer
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posted October 28, 2011 12:16 AM |
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Loved it. Watched it earlier.
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Minion
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posted October 28, 2011 12:38 PM |
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No matter how uneducated the protesters are, the fact is that wealth is piling up fast on smaller amount of people. When on average the income of Americans increased by 62% during 1979-2007,the income of the wealthiest 1% increased by 275%. (Congressional Budget Report)
I understand I live in a totally different society than US, but I don't get why is this such a good thing for your society. For I have hardly heard of positive aspects of increasing economic inequality whereas just the opposite has been found in studies. Just for example income inequality lowers social cohesion and ability to trust one another in the society.
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DagothGares
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posted October 28, 2011 02:12 PM |
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Yes, only societies with the highest economic equality are societies where everyone is happy.
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xerox
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posted October 28, 2011 02:25 PM |
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How mature of you to use one of the most extreme cases of that.
Yes, you can have a strong economy and a strong wellfare-society at the same time.
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Darkshadow
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posted October 28, 2011 02:38 PM |
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How mature of you to use one of the most extreme cases of that.
Yes, you can have a strong economy and a strong wellfare-society at the same time.
Sure, so long as that country has oil.
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Brukernavn
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posted October 28, 2011 02:41 PM |
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There is nothing wrong with someone being rich, the problem is when they get rich from subsidies by the government. Just look at the financial crisis; the middle class lost their jobs and homes, the poor have a harder time because of increased inflation and higher prices, but the bankers and wall street were bailed out.
But that's not capitalism. Here is a longer version of that clip where he educates them a little more: Linky.
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Shyranis
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posted October 28, 2011 07:25 PM |
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Edited by Shyranis at 22:02, 28 Oct 2011.
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Said it before and I'll say it again.
All businesses that get money from the government should be audited regularly so they do not abuse or waste the money given to them by the government. (The government itself should also be audited as such). If given a bail-out, a company should not give its CEO lavish bonuses or huge/any severance if the company presided over huge layoffs. Many of these executive bonuses are enough to keep all the people laid off working for more than a year, it's pretty disgusting. Companies should not be able to just take government money and run.
As far as I am concerned, if a company steals from the government with intentionally ridiculous things like million dollar toilet seats, it should be fined 5x what it wasted as punishment, to be paid directly against the national debt. People who fraudulently use welfare should also be fined (thought not as much, they need to be punished).
The government also has an obligation to protect people who express themselves peacefully. Not attack them senselessly like in Oakland, New York, LA, etc.
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A Marine has noted that the peaceful protesters in Oakland were treated worse than war zone Taliban.
He made an infographic too (he's not an artist though)
Quote the article:
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Before gas goes into a crowd shield bearers have to be making no progress moving a crowd or crowd must be assaulting the line. Not with sticks and stones but a no bullsnow assault. 3 warnings must be given to the crowd in a manner they can hear that force is about to be used. Shield bearers take a knee and CS gas is released in grenade form first to fog out your lines because you have gas masks. You then kick the canisters along in front of your lines. Projectile gas is not used except for longer ranged engagement or trying to steer the crowd ( by steering a crowd I mean firing gas to block a street off ). You also have shotguns with beanbags and various less than lethal rounds for your launchers. These are the rules for a WARZONE!!
How did a cop who is supposed to have training on his weapon system accidentally SHOOT someone in the head with a 40mm gas canister? Simple. He was aiming at him.
I'll be the first to admit a 40mm round is tricky to aim if you are inexperienced but anyone can tell the difference between aiming at head level and going for range.
The person that pulled that trigger has no business being a cop. He sent that round out with the intention of doing some serious damage to the protestors. I don't care what the protestors were doing. I never broke my rules of engagement in Iraq or Afghanistan. So I can't imagine what a protester in the states did to deserve a headshot with a 40mm. He's damn lucky to be alive and that cop knows he was using lethal force against a protester he is supposed to be protecting.
Additionally: Jesse Davis mentions "The methods prohibited in war, and actions after the fact are also against war zone policy." Check out his infographic here.
Specifically these two transcribed directly from US Army Law of War/Law of Armed Conflict training.
The Military manual states:
…have a duty to collect and care for the wounded. Prioritize treatment according to injuries. Make NO treatment distinction based on nationality. All soldiers, enemy or friendly, must be treated the same.
Second, the officer threw a flash-bang directly into a group of people trying to carry him away for medical treatment. Here's the Military guidance on that decision:
Medical Personnel Considered out of combat if they exclusively engaged in medical duties. (GWS, art. 24.) Doctors, surgeons, nurses, chemists, stretcher-bearers, medics, corpsman, and orderlies, etc..., who are “exclusively engaged” in the direct care of the wounded and sick.
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