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del_diablo
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posted November 04, 2011 09:46 AM |
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Yeah, that pretty much sums up the Marxist movement. The protesters who are arrested should be liable for the loss of revenue to businesses that had to shut down and for the loss of wages of those who got to work late because of the scumbags blocking the roads. They should also have to pay for the additional hours officers have to work to deal with their disturbances.
The Police officers should all be fired and fined, the major should be sent on trial for breaching the peace, whoever is in charge of Oaklands police should be sent to jail for allowing such a disgrace to happen to his departments, and whoever is in charge of the "boots" that was sent in to attack and assault the protesters should be hanged as well as jail sentence to each officer that was a part of that "Anti riot squad".
It was already established in the Nurnberg trials that "a person is still responsible even if they are taking orders from a officer, so its even what should be done in court.
Its really simple and yet fair.
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Elodin
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posted November 05, 2011 07:23 PM |
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Edited by Elodin at 19:23, 05 Nov 2011.
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OWS moves on to "Occupy McDonalds" in their "Give me your stuff for free" crusade.
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A Zuccotti Park protester threw a violent fit in a McDonald’s yesterday after employees refused to give him free food.
Fisika Bezabeh, 27, ripped a credit-card reader from a counter and threw it at workers at about 2:30 a.m. at the Mickey D’s at 160 Broadway, a bathroom spot for protesters.
No one was hurt by Bezabeh, who has been seen hanging out with protesters in the occupied park, police sources said.
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/camper_mac_attack_IErwi9aOGMCPDdYJw2WcyI#ixzz1crAPxOdO
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posted November 05, 2011 08:13 PM |
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Why?
I think it's wrong that corporations own the majority of the world's money, but I still like to eat at McDonalds once or twice a month.
They even reduced the amount of french fries and added apples and carrots in the Happy Meal. They're the good guys!
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Fauch
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posted November 05, 2011 08:53 PM |
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Edited by Fauch at 20:56, 05 Nov 2011.
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sounds like the guy was a bit excessive, but food companies are not usually known for their charity. it doesn't matter if they have unsold stuffs and 1 billion people in the world are starving, they want their money.
that should be a duty to make sure every one has enough to eat. there is no law about that?
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OmegaDestroyer
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posted November 05, 2011 09:23 PM |
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I'd throw him in jail and sue him for damages.
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blizzardboy
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posted November 05, 2011 09:37 PM |
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lolz I wish somebody was recording it with a high-definition camera. I can just picture the eyeliner running down his face.
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Darkshadow
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posted November 05, 2011 09:43 PM |
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So wait, companies are supposed to start giving out free stoff just for the sake of it?
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gnomes2169
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posted November 05, 2011 10:08 PM |
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Apparently. 
I hate how the media only shows extreme ends of the police reactions and the OWS movement, not the vast majority. The majority of members would (I know this is an assumption, but it seems that this should be the logical result) really just like to improve the job market. Mostly, they would like to see more jobs open up and more companies to be created, so a popular solution would be to decrease the costs or requirements of opening a private business. Another thing that they would more than likely try to support (on the whole) would be opening more businesses that already exist in-country. and the last common point I think that they agree on is that the rich should not be able to find so many tax cuts and deductions that they basically don't pay taxes. That last point had some claiming that they are all Marxist Communists/ Socialists and that they are a threat to America.
I don't really see what continuing the rally after drawing attention to your cause serves (whatever that cause actually is, since they don't apparently don't have a common cause), but this may be because they haven't chosen any leaders to represent their uncertain causes so they can't open negotiations with anyone in power. That creates a feeling of pointlessness over the entire Occupation. 
OWS and all of its splinters need to identify its common causes and elect local leaders to represent these causes. After that, there can be a type of improvement and protesters can go home so that negotiations can be pursued.
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Fauch
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posted November 05, 2011 11:03 PM |
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still, we could have a more communist/socialist system when it comes to food, you would get 3 free meals per day (breakfast, lunch, dinner) and if you want more you pay for it.
but actually it's not even food the most expensive. seems it is paying the rent.
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OmegaDestroyer
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posted November 05, 2011 11:24 PM |
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There are 48.5 million Americans on foodstamps. I am not quoting the source because I cannot remember it. I read it the other day.
I don't think 3 meals a day is a good thing. Here's an example why:
One of my clients is being evicted. She already has a disability case pending because she just doesn't feel like working, so she must be disabled. She receives almost $700/month in food stamps. She revealed to me yesterday that she has been letting someone who isn't authorized to use her foodstamps, take them in lieu of rent. That's a 10-year felony and/or $250k fine. She has abused the system. She contributes nothing. Why should she be entitled to anything?
Don't worry though. She'll probably get her 3 meals a day when it comes out in court how the tenant and LL conspired to commit fraud and she is sent to prison.
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posted November 05, 2011 11:25 PM |
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Joe Therrien... was working as a full-time drama teacher at a public elementary school in New York City. Frustrated by huge class sizes, sparse resources and a disorganized bureaucracy, he set off to the University of Connecticut to get an MFA in his passion—puppetry... Three years and $35,000 in student loans later, he emerged with degree in hand, and because puppeteers aren’t exactly in high demand... he’s working at his old school as a full-time 'substitute'... Joe had thought that hard work and education would bring, if not class mobility, at least a measure of security.
Not The Onion.
Serious movement, serious people.
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Fauch
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posted November 05, 2011 11:34 PM |
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yeah, of course the problem is how to deal with such things.
a big problem is that the system feeds on consumption, more we consume and better it works, and it encourages wasting a lot (I read it is an important purpose of the military in particular, just waste resources to keep the system working)
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del_diablo
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posted November 05, 2011 11:40 PM |
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Is it not funny that the media refuses to properly report this movement, and instead is just picking up random mishappenings and attempt to smear it?
Corporatism at its best.
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OmegaDestroyer
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posted November 06, 2011 02:40 AM |
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The media is bored of it. There is other news in the world.
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kodial79
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posted November 06, 2011 07:34 AM |
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Is it not funny that the media refuses to properly report this movement, and instead is just picking up random mishappenings and attempt to smear it?
Corporatism at its best.
In every demonstration against powers, the media always downplayed the event or exaggerated it in case there were mishappenings. Media corporations are owned or at least controled by the very same people who the people protest against. So what do you expect they will do?
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Fauch
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posted November 06, 2011 01:49 PM |
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they prefer talking about Sarkozy and DSK.
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posted November 06, 2011 03:39 PM |
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"The media" (Whatever the hell that is even suppose to mean. That word is constantly thrown around as though it actually meant something. Could you get any more insanely vague?) has been doing just fine with it. I actually read the news and can see that quite clearly. If you think these occupy movements still deserve to be the main page headline every day, then you're ignorant to the happenings of the world. Underplayed? Please.
Elodin posts an article about a protester being stupid and you suddenly decide that "THE MEDIA" is only reporting the bad incidents? Do you realize how many news outlets there are in the world? Here's a hint: there's a lot. As a conservative estimate, there are tens of thousands of articles that get published everyday. That's not including the little local papers.
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Fauch
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posted November 06, 2011 03:56 PM |
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Edited by Fauch at 15:59, 06 Nov 2011.
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actually, we do hear a lot about a certain "Papandreou" these days.
and isn't media the plural of medium actually?
and what is medium? an intermediary?
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That word is constantly thrown around as though it actually meant something.
but actually, it's probably the main reason why some random word actually means something in the end. as long as everyone uses it to designate the exact same thing. media is probably not the most obscure word to be commonly used.
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posted November 07, 2011 04:52 PM |
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Naturally, blizzardboy's got a point. There's too many new sources to just accuse them all by generalizing them as the media. So let's just draw a line here. Alternative and Mainstream Media.
Though I'm not very familiar with the coverage the OWS movement is getting on the USA, I can still speak about ours and our struggle and how the mainstream media cover it, to which my previous post can be applied.
I would elaborate more in depth on the topic but who cares, huh? 
I get my news on blogs and radio stations. I do not watch TV as I consider the news there to be junk or propaganda. I read newspapers too but not on a regular basis.
The reason why I choose radio stations over TV channels and newspapers is because people from any social class can call and intervene in the show and speak their mind too. I like to hear what other simple people like me have to say about the things that interest me.
Anyway, my post is largely off topic, so uh.. Yeah, down with the NWO and stuff! 
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Fauch
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posted November 07, 2011 06:53 PM |
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The reason why I choose radio stations over TV channels and newspapers is because people from any social class can call and intervene in the show and speak their mind too. I like to hear what other simple people like me have to say about the things that interest me.
though, on some websites, they are dumb as hell. on the site of my internet service providers, most comments are from angry frustrated people who can't argumentate nor speak about anything else than how much they hate Sarkozy. seriously, let's say there's an article about people who died in an accident. most comments won't show empathy and a couple of them will even blame Sarkozy.
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