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BlueOrb
BlueOrb


Adventuring Hero
posted March 27, 2012 02:58 AM

O, Thanks for the added Quote
In my own test it looks like Death Blow in his best 75% does damage a bit more than normal bless spell which works in 100% of its duration...so at the end I would get permanent bless than this
if could pick and choose.
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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted March 27, 2012 03:07 AM
Edited by Salamandre at 03:51, 27 Mar 2012.

Yes I can change only the percentages, but the result will always show wrong/lower. I can't work inside of the ability mechanics, it is a bit as the mass spells problems. When playing MoE all heroes have expert sorcery thus all mass spells will show a different damage displayed in magic book than the spell real damage right after. Guess 3DO coders forgot/ignored the differences in this case, have no explanation to this problem.

I can't neither change the description of the death blow without modifying text files in ERA/WoG package, which will create other additional problems. I will run a test in SoD with death knights, to be fixed on the final damage. If any differences with WoG, then maybe the experience levels are guilty about the wrong values, will check (so far it looks like death blow adds 20% overall damage at ACE level, instead of the 100% promised).
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alisapa1211
alisapa1211


Famous Hero
posted March 27, 2012 05:41 AM

Maybe Death Blow dmg bonus stacks additively with other % bonus dmg (Bless, ACE, Charge, Luck, etc), not multiplicatively so that's why it doesn't give 100% dmg bonus like it said. For that reason I save Death Blow for my Demons instead, can still fight normally without much troubles there.

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tevez
tevez


Adventuring Hero
posted March 27, 2012 01:03 PM
Edited by tevez at 13:06, 27 Mar 2012.

update !!!
M4W1D7 Risa
counter strike for AD, rebirth with ES made she dead


M4W2D5 Tazar

M4W2D6 Ash: forgetuness and protect AD

M4W3D3 Shiva


M4W3D5 Serena, feenzy attack sylvan at the bottom and on ES att AD make them kill both. now, protect AD, freenzy att Dragon(dont kill, reduce them, one by one ES go to near last sylvan, let 2 slot ES alive, attack Sylvan, let ~1000 sylvans are alive, kill other slot


Now, it is really troulbe, Wynstan. I did get any imp when attacking god of cave. How to Defeat him with 500 AD !!!
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master_learn
master_learn


Legendary Hero
walking to the library
posted March 27, 2012 01:30 PM

Farming

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Now, it is really troulbe, Wynstan. I did get any imp when attacking god of cave. How to Defeat him with 500 AD !!!


tevez,how your demon farming goes?

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tevez
tevez


Adventuring Hero
posted March 27, 2012 02:29 PM
Edited by tevez at 14:36, 27 Mar 2012.

I only farmed with Hell hound. I think I have 2K daemon , I dont remember. Maybe I have to wait a month to upgrade imp's health, learn death blow and fear to attack Wynstan. I want to kill him at month 5. I will try in M4W4 (for testing ) )
Now, I unlock "unlimited movement on water". Freenzy is 30% and remain ~3000 mercury, if I get resources when attacking God of cave next month, I will get 40% freenzy.


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mitzasbs
mitzasbs

Tavern Dweller
posted March 30, 2012 07:31 AM

hi m8's

       I'm new here, and i have 2 questions please:
1) After i killed Piquidarium, Yog and Galthran what cand i do? i can't find a way to go further...?
2) i see you spoked about demons how do ii make imps for example into demons..i managed to achive to galthran only with efrets and devils.
  Thanks!!!

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master_learn
master_learn


Legendary Hero
walking to the library
posted March 30, 2012 08:53 AM

Answer

MitzaSBS,
I dont know yet about after Galthran,because I havent reached him yet,but for your second question about demons-read the inferno creature abilities in Heros 3 Manual!
Or in their screen that is!

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mitzasbs
mitzasbs

Tavern Dweller
posted March 30, 2012 09:10 AM

master learn, you are saying that i need to let my army to die than resurct them with pit lords...??? i ve read the info about this map and h3 manual but dosn't says anything about how to farm demons...or i havn't find it, thanks

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master_learn
master_learn


Legendary Hero
walking to the library
posted March 30, 2012 09:40 AM

Farming

MitzaSBS,exactly!
Just make sure you have enough pit lords and enough hit points for the imps.

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted March 30, 2012 01:11 PM

From Galthran town you have a subterranean gate on right side asking for an artefact, which can be found in the Lair of Lyches nearby.
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tevez
tevez


Adventuring Hero
posted March 30, 2012 08:12 PM

Wynstan. I've find the way to defeat him in month 4 or month 5. Now, i have 1,2k mithril. 1 day, my heroes can earn ~500 mithrill from cave of drangon. I ve reload before m4w2. So, cave of god give me primary skill and 300 daemon . I cannt upggrade freenzy to 30,40%, i dont want to load again . but i tested. I upgrade all to damage, in one turn, my ad can take 250 titans. With lucky and death blow, morale I can take 600 titan in one turn.
Should be upgrade town or AD's damage. If i defeated wynstan, zydar and piqueram will be a troule if i dont have ~900 AD.

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master_learn
master_learn


Legendary Hero
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posted March 30, 2012 08:31 PM
Edited by master_learn at 20:34, 30 Mar 2012.

Example

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1 day, my heroes can earn ~500 mithrill from cave of drangon.  


Can you give a picture example of 500 mithril from Dragon Cave???

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted March 30, 2012 08:51 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 20:52, 30 Mar 2012.

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1 day, my heroes can earn ~500 mithrill from cave of drangon.


Dragon lair you mean? You mean you do random fight, reload if no relic, and so on until you get 30 relics/day?
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tevez
tevez


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posted March 30, 2012 10:55 PM

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Quote:
1 day, my heroes can earn ~500 mithrill from cave of drangon.


Dragon lair you mean? You mean you do random fight, reload if no relic, and so on until you get 30 relics/day?

Yep. 4-5 heroes, one by one attack dragom lair, full mana. Comodus has at least 10 battles per day, others have 5. Reload if no artifact. i attacked him in m4w4, i have a new problem. He teleport titans, nagas, clone titan to shoot me . Damn. Maybe i should bring 6k deamons to the combat. I tried defeat josephine. But, i failed. She will go out although i dont kill archer . Perharp i have to wait, month 5 i will try again. I will post images after defeating him.

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Salamandre
Salamandre


Admirable
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Wog refugee
posted March 30, 2012 11:40 PM

Just a question for BlueOrb/Tevez, when playing MoS. Have you bought max movement for Commodus from royal stables? I usually visit them 9 times, the last upgrade is a bit too expensive I think. With 9 upgrades I get +18 tiles.
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BlueOrb
BlueOrb


Adventuring Hero
posted March 31, 2012 12:56 AM

At the moment not. I can upgrade his movement 4 more times, but have money only for 2 and don't want to use all my money for that. I plan as soon when I have excess money to invest them in that About last update it depend how much you have, but yes it will be unnecessary expensive I suppose.
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BlueOrb
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posted March 31, 2012 01:16 AM

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my heroes can earn ~500 mithrill from cave of drangon.



Man, you should have nerves of steel
I get 2-3 extra artifacts while trying to receive Celestial necklace but give up at the end and let it be
Still this tactics will help immense especially at early stages, mine is to buy all artifacts from black markets, but they soon become empty while Dragons cave is bottomless
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tevez
tevez


Adventuring Hero
posted March 31, 2012 02:41 PM

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Just a question for BlueOrb/Tevez, when playing MoS. Have you bought max movement for Commodus from royal stables? I usually visit them 9 times, the last upgrade is a bit too expensive I think. With 9 upgrades I get +18 tiles.

I am alway out of gold. I used 9 heroes for attack CB. Now, M4, I only bought 8 tiles.

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Salamandre
Salamandre


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Wog refugee
posted March 31, 2012 04:02 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 16:05, 31 Mar 2012.

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Still this tactics will help immense especially at early stages


Will help to get crazy yeah, fighting same dragons 500 times and reload if no relic, I can't imagine the pain...

Anyway, it would be a good idea for a map to fix rewards regardless the amount of time you spent to break in next areas. Like Damacon before month 3, Wystan before month 6 etc. But such map concepts will need a lot of testers before release. Myself I was not able to defeat Wystan before middle month 6, and it seems it is possible. But I would not take the "reload until you get morale + death blow + luck every turn" for a thumb rule. A fight should be doable without such random bonuses.
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