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tevez
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posted April 04, 2012 10:25 AM |
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Glad to hear, I was a bit worried about difficulty too low, it seems that MoS is the optimal faction to play it. I am even delighted that Tevez can't defeat Wystan so fast 
He dead  . M5W1D2. I dont use freenzy. use forgetuness to master glemrin(-75% amor) after that, i used dispell. So them can shoot but only 2 shot, and naga never go out  . Now, all ES have to stand near titan, AD attack 1 slot titan ( AD will dead after killing 1 slot titan  ) cast air shield, stone skill, and resurrect AD after end turn to attack titan's clone at next turn, he will shoot Daemon, and AD in his turn . he will have 0 spell . When all titans have no shoot. resurrect all and defeat him.
I tried to load 20 time, utill i have new idea "using forgetuness" !
I only load 3 times.
And now, I have 9 inferno towns . prepairing to defeat Piqueram and Gathran.
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master_learn
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walking to the library
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posted April 04, 2012 10:48 AM |
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Attack
Attack 91 in the 5th month!!!
I guess you used the Arcane tower,but yet your other skills very good!Wow!
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revolut1oN
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posted April 04, 2012 11:29 AM |
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Hey, any clues how to beat Damacon fast with MoE? It seems i have only crappy spells while fighting vs him (only from lvl2 guilds in my infernos) I mean, I can beat him but i lose about 60% of my army.
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tevez
Adventuring Hero
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posted April 04, 2012 11:36 AM |
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Edited by tevez at 13:42, 04 Apr 2012.
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Attack 91 in the 5th month!!!
I guess you used the Arcane tower,but yet your other skills very good!Wow!
U see that, My knowledge is only 21 . Yep, I used Arcance tower. Because I didnt use freenzy. so, I must have high attack.
Update:
M5W1D6
and Zydar is a trouble with only 800AD and 8K daemons !!!
I bought 5 times at Royal Stable ! It's too expensive !!
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tevez
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posted April 04, 2012 11:45 AM |
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Hey, any clues how to beat Damacon fast with MoE? It seems i have only crappy spells while fighting vs him (only from lvl2 guilds in my infernos) I mean, I can beat him but i lose about 60% of my army.
I posted a picture of Damacon
1st turn, used AD att zealot, ES att maskmen. notice that, use Master genies with speed 12 , it's equal to grinfin and champion's speed, protect AD, and ES with Master genies.
2nd turn, he will resurrect Zealot, AD and ES go back, cast air shield, zealot maybe attack ES.
3nd turn, wait all, cast slow, attack zealot( and he remain about 40 zealot, use ice bolt or magic arrow to reduce them. attack AA, Grifin, champion,
I only lost 40 ES( too heavy at that moment. But, have to kill him at any price )
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revolut1oN
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posted April 04, 2012 04:25 PM |
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What? Where can I find Master Genies?!
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Warmonger
Promising
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fallen artist
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posted April 04, 2012 04:51 PM |
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Sea Bottle. It has a Genie animation over it to make things easier
It took me a month before I discovered it, though.
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tevez
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posted April 04, 2012 04:53 PM |
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What? Where can I find Master Genies?!
at the pond near tanatha.
Update:
M5W2D4: Zydar
next is Pequeram. maybe Gathran is harder.
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Warmonger
Promising
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posted April 04, 2012 04:59 PM |
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You don't post tactics used, which makes me suspicious. I can't find out how you beat enemies with so little forces and resources to upgrade army.
On the other hand, they are probably much weaker. I attacked them about 6 months later
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Salamandre
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posted April 04, 2012 05:45 PM |
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You are right, 6 months later = +60% HP and all stats. I am sure there is nothing to suspect, Tevez is obviously excellent player, he gave more than enough infos on the tactics used. I would also love to see Wystan battle in video, as it is the only AI hero which makes me nervous each time.
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BlueOrb
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posted April 04, 2012 06:17 PM |
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@Warmonger
Yeah it's doable, I'm also Month 5 before Wystan, the more you wait the powerful you become no mather how AI power grows.
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Salamandre
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Wog refugee
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posted April 04, 2012 07:21 PM |
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It is the opposite, here is the formula:
Mithril: reward from CB increase by 1 until month 12, then decrease by one until none.
AI growth: until day 309, +10% all stats monthly increase, every 6 months + 1 speed
After day 309, +20% stats increase until day 615
From then, +50% stats, +1 speed monthly
So I would say that if you last too long, there will be no mithril and AI will become impossible to kill, but that would take some 30 months, unlikely someone is playing so slow. MoW could play for ever still and convert all towns on map, with time.
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alisapa1211
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posted April 04, 2012 07:22 PM |
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Still you gotta give some buffs to MoS faction soon Salamandre, getting high scores ultimately doesn't mean anything in the end. So forcing the poor guy to reload and reload tons of time is just too much. I'm planning to try out MoS too but not until you give it some tweaks !
And farming CBs again and again (especially when you want to try multiple factions) is just boring, hope you would find some ways to improve it in the next map !!!
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Salamandre
Admirable
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Wog refugee
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posted April 04, 2012 07:26 PM |
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I am not forcing him to reload, he insists in finishing it faster than Speedy Gonzales.
CB farming: it was the idea behind. Some may like, others not. I don't think there is anything to improve, it is just a concept of growing economy regardless how well one can manage all secondary heroes. The only flaw IMO is that I did not add a time limit, but after 1 year of work, I wanted to be accessible to more than a few elite players.
Also MoW faction was created for those disliking CB farming. You develop a few secondary heroes, then they produce mithril, no need to farm anymore.
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tevez
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posted April 04, 2012 07:59 PM |
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Edited by tevez at 20:20, 04 Apr 2012.
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I will posted all file save later. in my save games, I split my army before battles. I posted guides at hard battle.
Update: Yog and Piqueram were dead !
I will try kill Gathant at this week. Lych King is too hard at this moment, only have 1k Sharpshooters ! Maybe, i will exchange all skills to Power !!!!
@Valery: I see that Faerier Dragonrebirth 6-7 times. What is their special ability? if ES were like FD, it would be easy to defeat wytan.
I will upload Wystan battle soon
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alisapa1211
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posted April 04, 2012 08:19 PM |
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I am not forcing him to reload, he insists in finishing it faster than Speedy Gonzales.
And that's my point, what's his present for completing it that fast?! Nothing. There is still no reason I can think to not to stall except for having more challenges.
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CB farming: it was the idea behind. Some may like, others not. I don't think there is anything to improve, it is just a concept of growing economy regardless how well one can manage all secondary heroes. The only flaw IMO is that I did not add a time limit, but after 1 year of work, I wanted to be accessible to more than a few elite players.
Maybe reduce the cost of everything (like you only need 1 Mithril to upgrade damage now), making scattered resources on the map and mines become more valuable, etc. In ToP you managed to make the Hero keep advancing without farming and still can arrange resources to upgrade stats properly.
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Also MoW faction was created for those disliking CB farming. You develop a few secondary heroes, then they produce mithril, no need to farm anymore.
I don't know, again getting better doesn't really harm, unless that area only has 1-2 CBs, I still try to farm all of them (being a perfectionist).
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Salamandre
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Wog refugee
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posted April 04, 2012 08:20 PM |
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@Tevez
1K sharps is enough, I use a secondary hero with archery expert, give him attack/def max and raise a bit sharps HP. Also the pyramid near Piquedram holds something good for you.
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And that's my point, what's his present for completing it that fast?! Nothing.
Ask him, not me. I bet he will disagree.
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In ToP you managed to make the Hero keep advancing without farming and still can arrange resources to upgrade stats properly.
ToP is large map, this is 8 times bigger, no way to hang 12 months until player gets earth expert.
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alisapa1211
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posted April 04, 2012 08:22 PM |
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1K sharps is enough, I use a secondary hero with archery expert, give him attack/def max and raise a bit sharps HP. Also the pyramid near Piquedram holds something good for you.
My strategy without using any sharps at all. I think you can figure how to do it with the pic already, lost about 3-4 ADs (max HP).
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Salamandre
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Wog refugee
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posted April 04, 2012 08:25 PM |
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yeah except that with MoS you don't have that high damage MA, and so early. Just checked my save, MA did 12k dam.
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alisapa1211
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posted April 04, 2012 08:29 PM |
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yeah except that with MoS you don't have that high damage MA, and so early. Just checked my save, MA did 12k dam.
I didn't up MA that much actually, I used Arcane Tower to have 125 SP to have that dmg.
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