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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted March 17, 2013 04:05 AM |
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Ok, there are many changes for this (I hope final unless you guys find something to fix), mainly to make game rather different with each faction.
Changes from original:
[+] Added sounds for several in-game important events, as CB's, Caves of Gods and Nodes re-spawn, special level up.
[+] Added 3 mini buttons to adventure map for easy search of not visited locations (that month). Those locations include all CB's, nodes, caves of gods, all bonus objects and imps crucibles.
[+] Replaced shoot close with fearless, then cast slow with poison in abilities dialog
[+] Added special levels. The bio info will also show how much will cost for MoS to upgrade at royal stables (previously you had to visit to get the price)
[+] Possibles bonuses from special levels: every 50 battles. Master of devils can choose any bonus from the list. The bonus is set at start of each week so don't reload before battle. It stays one week for all so plan your battles accordingly.
[+] Replaced 2 objects with HoTA objects.
[+] Fixed market of time issue, which removed all 3 warfare skills
[+] Added Yona settings.ini
[+] Number of skills was increased to 18 (was 16), mysticism, first aid, scholar and a few other crap will never be offered.
[+] Witch huts now give the right skills before the right battles (ballistic, tactics)
[+] Master of elements can cast twice from start and his fire bonus is now scrolls of blind (which becomes level 5 and will work also on mind immune)
[+] Every hero from MoS will receive on first visit of stables the "runner" pack: boots, gloves and admiral's hat.
[+] Added swap troops in heroes meeting screen, and split troops in hero screen.
[+] AI can't use dispel in battle with MoE. But cure it can.
[+] Invaders (solmyr, mutare, boragus, xeron, sandro and tazar) have customized backpack: MoS will receive sword of judgment and lion shield, MoW will receive one grail for each. For extra boots, admiral's hats (I can't customize seer huts), MoS can sell them at good price at devil's camp, which means every new hero is a potential 50+40+80 mithril after he visits the stables.
[+] On first turn of MoS, all lighthouses on map are given to our faction (actually a bunch of them, Rion will travel on his first sail like 50 squares)
[+] Traveling through shrines is now different for MoE. The view loop on each one and you stop when you found desired destination. (before had to scroll 252x252 map)
[+] Mithril reward from CB's is now dynamic with MoS, for each CB defeated that turn and by same hero, a bonus is added, and is cumulative. Bonus counter does not apply to derelict ships or shipwrecks.
[+] All MoE heros start with god of mana.
[+] MoE can use blind in battle, but each scroll will vanish after one cast.
[+] Two ways teleporters were disabled then customized with fixed cycle to avoid lost time.
[+} Resolve battle mod added.
[+] Enhanced hints now about dwellings on right-click.
[+] Hell barons bonus dwelling now gives much better random stats.
[+] Labyrinth now shows fully when we acquired the black orb, previously we had to find and defeat the 3 apocalypse cavaliers in the darkness.
[+] Arena is now much harder. You can level a 1 level hero to 50 in one battle now.
[+] The first special bonus is always mithril, to avoid early unlucky, 200 mithril before damacon is a bit better than 5 knowledge...
[+] The caves of gods give always resources until you completed 250 spell upgrades, then will give either devils or imps.
[-] If any orb of fire in backpack or equipped, it will be deleted when entering the labyrinth because is part of the quest.
[-] The freelancer will send monsters to kill Cyra next day (previously they traveled for 3 days)
[-] Removed resurrect spell from a few AI heroes, caused freeze game bug.
[-] Added secondary skills scrolling erm empty file (not compatible with TEW)
[-] It is no more possible to train creatures during the 4 cavaliers quest (only for these specific heroes)
[-] The cost of Royal Stables movement upgraded was divided by 5, no reason to rip them off.
[-] The price of upgrading Pandora boxes was divided by 10, the cost was prohibitive.
[-] The citadel decrease the battle counter, so don't try to use as exploit.
If I forgot something to mention, ask.
TEW IV v3.00
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alisapa1211
Famous Hero
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posted March 17, 2013 04:27 AM |
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You seemed to have not mentioned that AI will not get Dispel when you play MoE. Also I remember you mentioned somewhere that you add a fix that some skills will never appear like First Aid or something?!
Anyway massive buffs for MoS here. MoW also gets a little buff from the Grail which is unexpected. Do MoE and MoD receive any things special when they defeat the invaders?!
I agree with the change that the first bonus for special levels is always Mithrils, 250 Mithrils (and more) equals around 125 CBs in month 2, which is a lot and game changing compared to other bonus, especially stats or secondary skills.
Oh and MoS receives double movement speed bonus from Special Levels right?
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted March 17, 2013 04:32 AM |
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MoS is still the hardest, and with MoW all is about money. Now 6 grails will not be refused, growth is essential too and he has the money to buy them. Added about dispel, thanks, forgot. And yes, crap skills will not be offered. I still leaved navigation and scouting in because they are useful in various situations. Rion starts now with scholar, so skill was removed from game and universities. Yet it may pop as hidden skill sometimes but I gave it the lowest chance in HCtraits.
I think map is now easier but more enjoyable, I lost interest for very hard maps, lazy.
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artu
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
My BS sensor is tingling again
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posted March 17, 2013 04:44 AM |
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Why are map testers listed as Salamandre and Valery, aren't they both you?
And since there are so many changes, do you advise keeping version 2 also as a different game experience or would you say this is much better screw version 2?
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alisapa1211
Famous Hero
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posted March 17, 2013 04:49 AM |
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I think map is now easier but more enjoyable, I lost interest for very hard maps, lazy.
*Cough Alexander cough*. I still haven't had the mood to continue that map, though maybe the settings in the map is weird and different to TEW which I'm already used to. And this is the final change for all of your maps right?! Or will you update others later when you have the mood to do so?!
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted March 17, 2013 04:50 AM |
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@Artu Yes was a joke. I think this version is closest from what I wanted when I imagined a map playable in 4 different ways. Original is harder but differences between factions are smaller. After all the fine work I spent to test and tune it of course I recommend the last 
@Alisapa: Alexander is very early map, when I enjoyed hard puzzles. I would not say is really hard, but much harder than tew yes. Yet some guys from tew liks zydar and wystan can make you pull your hair sometimes with their +6 morale.
Anyway, if people find it too easy, it is a one line work to raise difficulty, AI growth multiplied by x, then you deserve the slaughter.
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master_learn
Legendary Hero
walking to the library
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posted March 17, 2013 08:15 AM |
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Sal,is the Arena with a better mithril prize now after the raising of it's difficulty?
I hope you haven't touched the inbattle objects for the Arena.
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alisapa1211
Famous Hero
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posted March 17, 2013 10:22 AM |
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Question: Can you sell Scrolls of Blind?! Assume that they give 2 Mithrils per scroll we can get total 10 Mithrils per day, which is a little icing that encourage people to check and get Blind scrolls everyday, also easier to manage redundant scrolls I guess.
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted March 17, 2013 10:30 AM |
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No, they have no value.
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Sal,is the Arena with a better mithril prize now ?
I did not touch it, still gives crappy reward, about 40 mithril at higher levels.
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alisapa1211
Famous Hero
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posted March 18, 2013 09:11 AM |
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Hm play a bit and the change that Heroes will certainly receive Mithrils in the first Special level give more advantages than I thought, 300 Mithrils in month 2 or 3 is just god bless, and is still a very strong bonus later, not to mention you can do it with multiple heroes.
MoE much more powerful with all the new features (but of course MoD still stays at the top), and is still the most interesting faction to play. Double Cast makes earlier battles a piece of cake since you can out-Resurrection everyone, also much faster farming. No Dispel allows you to stack buffs without worrying that they will get dispelled. All MoE heroes now start with God of Mana which give a lot of free SP and is an amazing meat shield early game.
Haven't got Blind yet but this spells seems to be much stronger in this map since there are lots of spells that can stack over time without doing anything like Bless/Curse/Prayer, and the Poison change to boost.
I learn a new trick to put a Teleport Shrine near an Oasis, allow you to utilize it to the fullest and get a decent movement speed boost after every battle. This combine with a Teleport Shrine near Dragon Cave allow you to cheese and farm much much longer.
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master_learn
Legendary Hero
walking to the library
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posted March 18, 2013 01:24 PM |
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alisapa,you could post some screens later.
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"I heard the latest HD version disables playing Heroes. Please reconsider."-Salamandre
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Demboo
Tavern Dweller
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posted March 19, 2013 03:23 PM |
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Edited by Demboo at 22:34, 19 Mar 2013.
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Got it ! Finally 0 devils lost. Thanks for tip salamandre !
Edit : How to defeat tazar ?! I cant even kill one hydra because of 1dmg ...
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alisapa1211
Famous Hero
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posted March 20, 2013 12:20 AM |
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54 ADs? Which months did you fight him?! If you play the new version, let Commodus have 50 battles asap, the first special level of him (or every hero Sal?) will give Mithrils reward which allows you have Attack and Return very early, and this will make the fight become much easier, just block the gate and you only have to take care of the AA and Archer stacks.
For Tazar, upgrade Cast Implosion after attack for ADs.
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted March 20, 2013 05:02 AM |
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Sorry guys, if anyone is playing master of speed, please replace in Tew4/data/s with this file then press F12 after loading game:
Commodus.erm
I removed the MoS mithril bonus limitation for shipwrecks and derelict ships, it was too trivial. Now you get +1 mithril from any creature bank you visit that turn, so get water bonus asap to taste it fully.
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the first special level of him (or every hero Sal?)
Any, but I doubt you will reach 50 battles with Rion before Commodus, I want to see that. The first bonus is always mithril, no matter the hero used. To not confound with the first bonus for each hero, this remains random.
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alisapa1211
Famous Hero
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posted March 20, 2013 05:22 AM |
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Any, but I doubt you will reach 50 battles with Rion before Commodus, I want to see that. The first bonus is always mithril, no matter the hero used. To not confound with the first bonus for each hero, this remains random.
Oh that's how it works, make me wonder if there are some mistakes when my Heroes didn't receive Mithril rewards for their first Special level bonus.
I'm quite surprised that you keep the stats bonus unchanged, I mean 5 random stats compared to 400 Mithrils, or other bonuses, is like heaven and hell. I thought you changed it into something like Cave of Gods stat bonuses before (like around +5 all stats if lucky), but no. Sure I can wait another week but still.
Also I tested and changed one of my stats to become > 100 (or even 120), yet still got the stat bonus?!
For some reasons, MoE's Gods always give 1 SP per week or I was just unlucky?!
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted March 20, 2013 05:29 AM |
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I know getting +5 stats is nothing, but you can't always live in heaven, isn't it? I think it adds a bit of strategy to the choice of using this hero or another. If you see the bonus doesn't fit, use only heroes who can't reach the bonus that week, then try again next week for a better dice. Or reload day 7, but I never do it.
The stats bonus doesn't apply if the random skill is already at 120 or more.
Gods give exactly as before, random SP between 1 and 3. Unlucky.
As you see in my game one got +3, the other +2.
 
 
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demboo
Tavern Dweller
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posted March 20, 2013 11:59 AM |
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Edited by demboo at 12:01, 20 Mar 2013.
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Which day and month i should fight damacon?
And btw. where is mithril market ? My next fight is dace. And how u clear CB's with 5 ads and god? Its hard for me to clear it with 50 ads...
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Salamandre
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Wog refugee
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posted March 20, 2013 12:17 PM |
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I can clear them with one efreet only, later you will see how it goes.
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master_learn
Legendary Hero
walking to the library
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posted March 20, 2013 12:55 PM |
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Mithril market is after Broghild.
That's where you go to Arena and the Market.
But mainly you will get mithril from the artifacts market(where you sell artifacts for mothril)and the CBs and the Arena.
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"I heard the latest HD version disables playing Heroes. Please reconsider."-Salamandre
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demboo
Tavern Dweller
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posted March 20, 2013 01:03 PM |
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Artifacts market is before dace or after? I need a lot of mithril now but i cant really find this market.
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