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posted July 22, 2020 04:49 PM |
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Seventh-day Adventist Church is also interesting. Catholic is a very different. Such! And Russia hates American Christianity. I think so. When Mormon, Scientology, and today Jehovah's witnesses. What today I read and what Russian guy said to me. In the future Russia hasn't American Church. Sure.
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posted July 22, 2020 05:25 PM |
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Here is an article from a Catholic perspective (which reiterates what I previously was saying) for your viewing pleasure:
https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12792a.htm
"Resurrectio carnis" - of the body - is considered distinct from the soul, which does not experience any bodily death. This already has a background in Judaism prior to Christ.
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posted July 22, 2020 05:40 PM |
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That's all good, but I'm still not entirely sure how do you reconcile your views with the many Bible verses that liken death to sleep and say that in the grave there is no remembrance, the dead know nothing, the soul that sins shall die, and so forth.
And then there's the verse from Genesis that I quoted numerous times in this thread that says "man became a living soul", and not "man has a soul", and absolutely nothing is said about the immortality of such a "soul".
The Bible nowhere says, as your article states, that "the soul cannot die". In fact it doesn't say that the soul is separate from the body, rather a "soul" signifies the human being. You don't have a soul. You are a soul.
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posted November 12, 2020 02:45 AM |
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Question for people that don't live in the United States:
Do you have in your country any Christian leaders who emulate the bible thumping, evangelical stylings of protestant American preachers? Is that just an American thing or does it exist elsewhere too?
Do you see in your country any oratorical styles that resemble that? For example are there any muslims that emulate that style? Or car salesmen, or whatever?
Also, have you heard of or read any secular writers like Dr. Robert Price or Bart Ehrman?
Just curious what things are like outside the terrordome.
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posted November 12, 2020 08:34 AM |
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posted November 12, 2020 09:06 AM |
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Edited by artu at 09:07, 12 Nov 2020.
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Not exactly in the style of televangelicalism but religion is a big part of politics in here (Turkey), especially since AKP is in power. You can even say, the core polarization of the country is between the seculars and Islamists. Quran is a political book which only makes sense when believers rule over non-believers and Muhammed’s very own story is a story of rise to political power, so the relation between politics and religion is harsher here. Things like turning Hagia Sophia back into a mosque are still a big deal.
Havent heard the first one but I’ve read a book by Bart Ehrman, yes, Jesus Interrupted. But I wouldnt say he’s a popular writer where I live. It was my own curiousity.
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posted November 12, 2020 09:24 AM |
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Here we have only three acceptable Christian denominations, which in order are: Roman Catholic, Russian Orthodox and Russian Old Believer. we do have some Lutherans, Methodists and baptists, but they're practically non existant at this point.
Stuff like televangelists would by literally lynched by a mob of angry babushkas. We do have cathecism classes in school, but those usually focus on what is the Catholic Church, how it operates and what wisdom Jesus taught. and one may choose either cathecism or ethics class in non Christian public schools , at least in my days.
teaching creationism, or advocating aggressively for it as they do in US would be met pretty much with the same consequences as my televangelist example.
Devout babushkas are really rabid regarding those questions. Some take it to more extremes than others though and with their ferocity can ruin the churchgoing experience for others. either during mass or when visiting one of the old churches as a tour.
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posted November 12, 2020 12:05 PM |
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Emotional protestant style is characteristics. In Poland only semiprotestant groups make it.
We have infiltration of toronto blessing style madness inside Church:
toronto beasting madness
Beware its demonic.
True Church based od wisdom mind and free will.
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posted November 12, 2020 01:00 PM |
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lol at the vid.
The oratorical style of the preacher in that video though is mostly what I'm interested in, not necessarily the message that's being preached.
Thanks for the answers.
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posted November 12, 2020 02:10 PM |
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Thought that was rather common, actually. Although, around here in Brazil, just a very few selected branches of Evangelic church do that sort of thing – and fewer represented in that video. Named Universal Church. It has a very nasty reputation. My sister's church in Peru has some manner of preachery you mentioned, but much less ... 'invasive' or cataclysmic.
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posted January 01, 2023 04:14 AM |
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1. Credo in Deum Patrem omnipotentem, Creatorem caeli et terrae,
I believe in God the Father almighty, maker of heaven and earth,
2. et in Iesum Christum, Filium Eius unicum, Dominum nostrum,
and in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord,
3. qui conceptus est de Spiritu Sancto, natus ex Maria Virgine,
who was conceived of the Holy Spirit and born of the Virgin Mary,
4. passus sub Pontio Pilato, crucifixus, mortuus, et sepultus,
who suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried,
5. descendit ad inferos, tertia die resurrexit a mortuis,
descended into hell, rose again from the dead on the third day,
6. ascendit ad caelos, sedet ad dexteram Dei Patris omnipotentis,
ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of God the Father almighty,
7. inde venturus est iudicare vivos et mortuos.
who will come again to judge the living and the dead.
8. Credo in Spiritum Sanctum,
I believe in the Holy Spirit,
9. sanctam Ecclesiam catholicam, sanctorum communionem,
the holy universal Church, the communion of saints,
10. remissionem peccatorum,
the forgiveness of sins,
11. carnis resurrectionem,
the resurrection of the body,
12. vitam aeternam. Amen
and the life everlasting. Amen.
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posted January 01, 2023 09:48 AM |
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Why Catholic is a very different? Their biblical page is extra.. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_canon also prophets wrote Mormon and Islam, so their extra pages.. But the Bible said not the new prophets.. So the last biblical book between Catholic canon.. Depend on belief.. I think the God and Jesus accept your belief.. Because the Bible told that multitude comes right and real believers with.. Example of JWs said they are JWs interestings, when their time isn't enough.. Too selfish! 
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posted January 01, 2023 10:03 AM |
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My father is a Jehovah's Witness.
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posted January 01, 2023 10:12 AM |
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And my two friends are Jehovah's witnesses..
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posted January 01, 2023 07:00 PM |
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posted January 02, 2023 06:19 AM |
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Ghost said:
I'm a Master..
There is only one Master. 
Matthew 23:10, KJV: Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.
Matthew 23:10, NASB: And do not be called leaders; for only One is your Leader, that is, Christ.
Matthew 23:10, NLT: And don't let anyone call you 'Teacher,' for you have only one teacher, the Messiah.
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posted January 02, 2023 07:07 AM |
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I'm not a student..
Ok when Adam died and turned to mold, thus the sin.. Where is skull, bone, etc Yeah Jewish work.. Then where is Moses? When he died in the mountain.. It said "raise", etc I ask you do you know superficial rock is about 100 years old? It raised up, and animal ate bones..
Now we know mold.. and student Moses is a very summer Santa Claus.. Remember both is a history.. No wisdom, prophet, etc Read biblical canon link.. 
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posted January 02, 2023 07:26 AM |
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Yes, Ghost, I read more than the wiki article. I read the canonical books and the non-canonical. 
Book of Tobit ring a bell?
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Ghost
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posted January 02, 2023 07:40 AM |
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I (have) never read.. Not interested! Other books what they ran away to South America, if story is true.. In South America researchers found Daniel prophet stories.. Interested!
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posted January 02, 2023 07:53 AM |
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Ah, I would love to go to South America.
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