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posted November 11, 2021 09:21 PM |
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i stopped reading the article immediately after they claimed it was folklore causing people to not get the shots. if they're going to start with that premise, i won't lower myself to entertain the rest; because they're obviously retarded, making an inane attempt to ridicule people who actually invest THOUGHT into their decisions, and/or are grasping at straws.
these people, who refuse to understand anything based in fact, are NOT living in reality. i wouldn't take somebody's word if they claimed to believe in a flat-earth, either. that's how ridiculous they, and everyone like you, are; to everyone who has educated themselves on what's happening, instead of just taking propaganda, lies, and absolutely retarded bullsnow, as fact.
i want you and everyone like you to understand this: you and all you represent, are viewed the exact same, as people who believe in flat earth. that's the level you are at, now. you can look at us as stupid all you want, but that doesn't change what you enable to happen to the world, OR what you willingly did to your own bodies. the companies pushing that snow, were not made legally responsible for the outcome(they made sure of that BEFOREHAND). the outcome of all of this, is on YOU. and you better believe, you and people like you, will reap those rewards.
i just wish you would eventually UNDERSTAND what you all've done. but they've already convinced your kind, that it is, and will be, the UNVACCINATED's fault for everything bad that happens to you. they've already pitted your kind against mine. so you will NEVER understand that YOU and everyone LIKE YOU are responsible for what is now, and for what will come.
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posted November 11, 2021 09:32 PM |
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How do you “educate yourself” on what is happening? Simple answer please.
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fred79
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posted November 11, 2021 09:44 PM |
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simplest answer? stop listening to anything the msm, governments, pharmaceutical industries, and fools who watch them and take them at their word, say. that's as simple as it can get.
a better answer is, it should be obvious to you, why you shouldn't listen to them. if it isn't obvious to you by now, then you're not going to understand. if you can't pick up on the fact that ANY AND ALL DISSENT IS BEING SILENCED, then you aren't mentally equipped to live freely in the real world with sane individuals, period. you are clearly a threat to any free-thinking society with any integrity or sanity.
they have used your easily manipulatable sense of morality and your fears, against you. they understand that you'd rather FEEL good, than THINK. they have WEAPONIZED you, against all of US.
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posted November 11, 2021 10:04 PM |
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The real shame is, that you don't realize how idiotically nonsensical, foolish and actually dangerous for everyone this bull is you obviously (want to) believe in.
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fred79
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posted November 11, 2021 10:13 PM |
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@ jj:
like i said, they have weaponized people like you, against people like me. you only believe you're right, because they succeeded in training you to be their lapdogs.
the shots don't stop you from getting or spreading covid, and they silence any dissent that proves they're lying, and you still think you're right in parroting what they told you to believe.
they played you all like fiddles. the sad thing is, they used your virtues against you. and it will be not only your downfall, but the downfall of millions. including those you foolishly thought you were protecting. including allllll the precious children, who you thought you were protecting.
and you're going to use all that rage from what'll happen, against the very people who tried to warn you. against the people you ridiculed and helped excommunicate from the new burgeoning society they wanted.
and you will be held accountable for that. it will be you vs us, and we will win. why? because we actually USE our brains. you guys'll be lucky if they TELL you what to do, when the time comes; because that's where are your "intelligence" comes from. we already know what to do. WE are already prepared.
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posted November 11, 2021 10:26 PM |
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You've more than once proven that you don't even know what a vaccination (of which they are virtually hundreds) does and how it works. Other people have tried to explain that to you - and you STILL blather stuff like Quote:
the shots don't stop you from getting or spreading covid
as if that was something unheard of and proof for some evil conspiracy. What is more - no one official EVER claimed something like that.
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artu
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posted November 11, 2021 10:55 PM |
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Fred, my question was not about who not to trust,
How do you educate yourself.
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fred79
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posted November 11, 2021 10:57 PM |
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@ jj:
you're not living in reality. reality dictates that a vaccine cures or prevents an illness. that USED TO BE undeniable fact. now, due to their propaganda and DIRECT MANIPULATION OF FACTUAL INFORMATION, they push something on you that ISN'T a vaccine, and make a new definition for "vaccine" so they can CLAIM it's a vaccine.
tell me: what are the END RESULTS OF THE "VACCINE"?
DOES IT STOP YOU FROM GETTING WHAT IT'S INTENDED TO FIGHT?
NO.
DOES IT PREVENT YOU FROM SPREADING IT AND KILLING VULNERABLE PEOPLE?
NO.
SO WHAT IS THE -----POINT------ OF TAKING IT????
EXPLAIN THIS TO ME. EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THIS -------ISN'T------- JUST ABOUT CONTROL.
the fact is, you can't. because it's about CONTROL. it's about your OBEDIENCE. it's about the OUTCOME OF THE SHOT. they SUPPRESS the facts coming out ABOUT THE SHOTS. they SUPPRESS DISSENT to THEIR NARRATIVES. to THEIR CONTROL. THEY LIE. THEY CHEAT. AND THEY INSULATED THEMSELVES LEGALLY FROM THE AFTEREFFECTS OF EVERYONE TAKING THE SHOTS.
any THINKING person would have thought, "hey, why are these companies legally insulating themselves from lawsuits BEFORE they release their products?"
that would have been RED FLAG NUMBER ONE, to anyone with a brain.
and everything that has come out SINCE THEN? just adds more reason to NOT GET THE SHOTS.
but sure, go ahead and tell me that i'm full of snow. and do so using their propaganda, like i know you will. because you don't HAVE anything else to defend "your beliefs".
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Galaad
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posted November 11, 2021 11:02 PM |
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fred79 said:
SO WHAT IS THE -----POINT------ OF TAKING IT????
It drastically reduces the spreading and the risk of developping a lethal or severe form of the virus. That's what the data we have at disposal tells.
Also please tone it down. Shouting at everyone is not for a pleasant conversation and in your case doing so has often resulted in penalties and silences.
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posted November 11, 2021 11:40 PM |
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artu said:
Fred, my question was not who not to trust,
How do you educate yourself.
you cannot just "educate yourself". someone who thinks like you, will not "educate themselves" from any sources that i would provide, because you don't think like i do, and you would automatically believe MYSELF to be an illegitimate "source" from the getgo. i have posted sources to people YOU trust, and you STILL argue incessantly, regardless. i highly doubt you will even consider what i'm about to post, honestly. but i'll make the effort, nonetheless:
you have to actually change the WAY you think. first you have to START critically thinking(you already think you do this, but you don't. trust me. just trust me on this, please). you have to be able to EXAMINE ALL INPUT from EVERY SOURCE you can find.
in the long run, you have to be able to DIFFERENTIATE facts from propaganda(you'll start noticing a trend that'll help this process, eventually. what also helps, is KNOWING and VALIDATING if your sources are TRUSTWORTHY. this is a CONSTANT thing. ALMOST NOTHING is set in stone, when it comes to gathering info from various sources. i've watched information change in the same sources, and not only in the msm. you need to be able to identify the SOURCES of changes in information, and to SCRUTINIZE THEM, as well). you have to TRAIN your brain to do this AUTOMATICALLY. you have to be able to seperate facts from fiction, and half-truths from full-truths. from every single thing we've ever argued about, i know that you have a long way to go. that's not an insult, but observation. don't let your ego defend itself and stop you from making any attempt to understand what i'm saying, here. i understand that's a hallmark issue with people like yourself, and i honestly just want to help. you have no idea just how much i want to remedy this problem. but i'm meandering. allow me to get back to the point:
in order to begin critical thought, you'll have to start small. you can start simply with commercials. any commercial on tv at all. any ad you see. WHAT are they trying to tell you? WHAT are their goals? WHO do these commercials involve? WHO are their target audience? are there SIMILARITIES between any of these commercials? WHO are they supporting? WHO are they AGAINST? WHY? WHAT ARE THEIR GOALS? if you want to understand a message, you have to understand it's GOALS. analyzing commercials and advertising is a simple way to start your brain on the right path.
from there, take the similarities you've noticed(and if you haven't noticed specific similarities that are in almost EVERY COMMERCIAL, then you aren't analyzing enough. keep at it), and apply it to EVERYTHING you see on tv. i mean, literally, EVERYTHING.
after you start seeing these similarities in all of television, move on to the internet. do the same thing there. check into the people BEHIND every source you examine(this goes for tv, too). don't bother reading any books; because everything you need to understand, is in popular media that you can find in every OUNCE of technology out there at this point in time(chances are, you won't know what i'm referring to with this, but just stick with me). if you waste your time reading books at this point, you'll just slow your learning curve. trust me, everything you need to train yourself with, is all digital. it's everywhere, and once you have trained yourself to recognize it, you'll understand things the same way i do.
this isn't about conspiracy theories. this is simply about being able to analyze and correctly interpret your environment. in order to understand what is going on around you, you have to have trained your brain to ANALYZE and INTERPRET correctly.
thus far, everything we've said between us points to the fact that you have NOT. that's not a insult; that's an observation. my observations are then validated by all the other evidence you've given me.
you can take the above as crackpot tinfoil bs and continue on your path(which i 100% believe you will), or you can take these words to heart, and start understanding. i truly hope you choose to make an sincere attempt to bridge the vast chasm of our understanding.
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fred79
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posted November 11, 2021 11:50 PM |
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Galaad said:
fred79 said:
SO WHAT IS THE -----POINT------ OF TAKING IT????
It drastically reduces the spreading and the risk of developping a lethal or severe form of the virus. That's what the data we have at disposal tells.
Also please tone it down. Shouting at everyone is not for a pleasant conversation and in your case doing so has often resulted in penalties and silences.
no, it doesn't. you have no idea what it does, because they haven't TOLD you what it really does. anything you see that PROMOTES their shots, you can safely ESCHEW. take my word for it, it's propaganda. they are silencing anything and anyone CONTRARY to what they say that PROMOTES their agenda.
and, i'm not shouting. i'm enunciating. i want the points to be driven home. also, don't threaten me. you mods will do what you do, regardless of my posting style. you have all proven that repeatedly.
do us all a favor, and stop doing everything you can to threaten and SILENCE DISSENT. i'm not yelling at anyone, i'm utilizing features that are PART of this website.
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fred79
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posted November 12, 2021 12:17 AM |
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fred79 said:
artu said:
Fred, my question was not who not to trust,
How do you educate yourself.
you cannot just "educate yourself". someone who thinks like you, will not "educate themselves" from any sources that i would provide, because you don't think like i do, and you would automatically believe MYSELF to be an illegitimate "source" from the getgo. i have posted sources to people YOU trust, and you STILL argue incessantly, regardless. i highly doubt you will even consider what i'm about to post, honestly. but i'll make the effort, nonetheless:
you have to actually change the WAY you think. first you have to START critically thinking(you already think you do this, but you don't. trust me. just trust me on this, please). you have to be able to EXAMINE ALL INPUT from EVERY SOURCE you can find.
in the long run, you have to be able to DIFFERENTIATE facts from propaganda(you'll start noticing a trend that'll help this process, eventually. what also helps, is KNOWING and VALIDATING if your sources are TRUSTWORTHY. this is a CONSTANT thing. ALMOST NOTHING is set in stone, when it comes to gathering info from various sources. i've watched information change in the same sources, and not only in the msm. you need to be able to identify the SOURCES of changes in information, and to SCRUTINIZE THEM, as well). you have to TRAIN your brain to do this AUTOMATICALLY. you have to be able to seperate facts from fiction, and half-truths from full-truths. from every single thing we've ever argued about, i know that you have a long way to go. that's not an insult, but observation. don't let your ego defend itself and stop you from making any attempt to understand what i'm saying, here. i understand that's a hallmark issue with people like yourself, and i honestly just want to help. you have no idea just how much i want to remedy this problem. but i'm meandering. allow me to get back to the point:
in order to begin critical thought, you'll have to start small. you can start simply with commercials. any commercial on tv at all. any ad you see. WHAT are they trying to tell you? WHAT are their goals? WHO do these commercials involve? WHO are their target audience? are there SIMILARITIES between any of these commercials? WHO are they supporting? WHO are they AGAINST? WHY? WHAT ARE THEIR GOALS? if you want to understand a message, you have to understand it's GOALS. analyzing commercials and advertising is a simple way to start your brain on the right path.
from there, take the similarities you've noticed(and if you haven't noticed specific similarities that are in almost EVERY COMMERCIAL, then you aren't analyzing enough. keep at it), and apply it to EVERYTHING you see on tv. i mean, literally, EVERYTHING.
after you start seeing these similarities in all of television, move on to the internet. do the same thing there. check into the people BEHIND every source you examine(this goes for tv, too). don't bother reading any books; because everything you need to understand, is in popular media that you can find in every OUNCE of technology out there at this point in time(chances are, you won't know what i'm referring to with this, but just stick with me). if you waste your time reading books at this point, you'll just slow your learning curve. trust me, everything you need to train yourself with, is all digital. it's everywhere, and once you have trained yourself to recognize it, you'll understand things the same way i do.
this isn't about conspiracy theories. this is simply about being able to analyze and correctly interpret your environment. in order to understand what is going on around you, you have to have trained your brain to ANALYZE and INTERPRET correctly.
thus far, everything we've said between us points to the fact that you have NOT. that's not a insult; that's an observation. my observations are then validated by all the other evidence you've given me.
you can take the above as crackpot tinfoil bs and continue on your path(which i 100% believe you will), or you can take these words to heart, and start understanding. i truly hope you choose to make an sincere attempt to bridge the vast chasm of our understanding.
to put this simpler, understanding marketing is a fast track to understanding and differentiating propaganda from fact. once you pick up on it's mechanisms, you'll see it everywhere. the promotion/control/weaponization of ideas is how the globalists are winning. by understanding their target audience, they can manipulate them. they don't even have to control people with military force, they can convince their target audience to control themselves, and any dissenters.
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Galaad
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posted November 12, 2021 12:19 AM |
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and, i'm not shouting. i'm enunciating. i want the points to be driven home. also, don't threaten me. you mods will do what you do, regardless of my posting style. you have all proven that repeatedly.
do us all a favor, and stop doing everything you can to threaten and SILENCE DISSENT. i'm not yelling at anyone, i'm utilizing features that are PART of this website.
That's just gold.
Ok freddie, just let it out, you've been trolling us all hard that whole time weren't you? 
fred said:
you have to be able to EXAMINE ALL INPUT from EVERY SOURCE you can find.
also fred said:
i stopped reading the article immediately
It's ok, you can stop now, you got us good. 
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posted November 12, 2021 12:43 AM |
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ha hee ha hoo hee ha. hoo hee ha.
Galaad said:
fred said:
you have to be able to EXAMINE ALL INPUT from EVERY SOURCE you can find.
also fred said:
i stopped reading the article immediately
It's ok, you can stop now, you got us good.
you guys don't see me as a source of information. you see me as someone to ridicule and silence once i get too vocal regarding propaganda you were trained to believe is fact(and especially so, the more people are vocal and pointing out the ridiculous hypocrisy and failure of factual information on your side). how many threads have been locked because of this? how many of my posts deleted or penalyzed? and on a gaming forum, no less?
imagine if the shoe was on the other foot. if i were a moderator, and i silenced and penalyzed anyone who had differing ideas from myself on an online GAMING forum, what kind of message would that send to someone who was merely on the fence, watching what was happening?
what message does that send to the world, when facebook, twitter, youtube, instagram, and every other mainstream media site does the same thing?
understand, people sitting on the fence are on to your bs. they understand now, which side they have to choose, if they want to continue being a free-thinking individual.
and as for that link jj posted, i want you to imagine, that someone claimed people believed in math because of fairies. that's how they started out the article. would you continue reading, or immediately understand the source was a bs smear article? when you start with a premise like that, and not factual information, you're setting yourself up for failure. nobody with a brain would consider reading the rest of what they had to say. but i understand why you can try and act like i was referring to something silly like that, and not a source that fully intended itself to be taken seriously.
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posted November 12, 2021 02:08 AM |
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No (yes), I dont see you as a source of information. But that doesnt mean I want to ridicule you. I just dont trust the way you interpret things.
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fred79
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posted November 12, 2021 02:24 AM |
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well, try what i laid out. the short explanation of the method is the post immediately after the longer one. you will come to the same conclusions as myself and millions of others, once you understand the mechanisms. all of their bs will be blatantly obvious once you do. and you'll stop thinking that i and millions of other people are just crackpots. once you get on the right tracks, you will be able to find the correct information they're suppressing, on your own. just look for what they're demonizing and trying to silence. it won't all be valid, but you'll be able to cross-reference many different things to come to a generalized informed conclusion based on valid sources that you yourself can verify without being told to. also, new information is coming out all the time; so keep that in mind.
really though, what i point out is self-explanatory. that anyone would call it conspiracy THEORY, when it's proven fact, just tells me they feel safer and more comfortable believing the lies being told. the ego insulating itself to protect the fragility of the imposed reality, as it were.
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JollyJoker
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posted November 12, 2021 07:18 AM |
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Fred, seriously. I will, speak it out.
You are completely nuts. Totally bonkers.
And not in a funny way.
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Galaad
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posted November 12, 2021 10:20 AM |
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Damn, my bluff failed.
fred said:
ow many threads have been locked because of this? how many of my posts deleted or penalyzed? and on a gaming forum, no less?
Threads have been locked because they were derailed, usually by you, and you were penalized and silenced for breaking the rules repeatedly. Yes when you call your interlocutor "mentally handicapped" you are breaking the rules. When you tell a moderator to "**** off" you are also breaking the rules. It's baffling I need to explain you this.
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take my word for it
No, I will take the word of the huge majority of medical professionals, including some that I've discussed with IRL, over yours, a random on the internet. Can't you understand that is reasonable?
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it's proven fact
It's not, and you have repeatedly failed to expose so. I know you are smart, it doesn't mean you are right. You lecture us about critical thinking but you are the one with the premises we are being controlled etc, and you extenuate yourself more telling us that, than objectively laying out actual facts that could back your theories, which you can't do, because these facts aren't there.
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posted November 12, 2021 11:11 AM |
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jj, you already claimed you are pro-globalist. you calling me crazy when you claim to side with the very thing i'm speaking out about, is more than a little transparent, don't you think? just who, exactly, do you think you're fooling?
galaad, i won't bother to read what you post. everyone knows what and who you represent, as well. your actions speak much louder than your hollow words.
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Galaad
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posted November 12, 2021 11:24 AM |
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fred79 said:
galaad, i won't bother to read what you post. everyone knows what and who you represent, as well. your actions speak much louder than your hollow words.
Yeah right, I'm hired by the globalists to spread their propaganda on an outdated gaming forum, you got me.
Propaganda's on both sides, btw.
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