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artu
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posted February 01, 2017 04:08 PM |
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fred79 said:
i was ninja-eating the best marble cake i've ever eaten in my life while my entire platoon was getting smoked(excercised until muscle failure over and over) that whole day from snowing up their drill-and-ceremony march training. LOL. served those snowers right; i hated them all. 
i kept taking out the trash so i could watch them getting smoked outside. 
Well, so much for the "band of brothers" heh, you know, all that stuff about there is no friendship like the ones between fellow serving men. That's rather about people who face deadly combat together though, lives depending on each other and all that.
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AlHazin
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posted February 01, 2017 04:40 PM |
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fred79 said:
even if it practices unconventional tactics.
Count me on then. 
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fred79
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posted February 01, 2017 04:53 PM |
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artu said:
Well, so much for the "band of brothers" heh, you know, all that stuff about there is no friendship like the ones between fellow serving men. That's rather about people who face deadly combat together though, lives depending on each other and all that.
the military i was a part of(non-infantry) is no different than a job where everyone around you is playing cut-throat for pay increases, and they'll all throw you under the bus to get ahead. that "band of brothers" bullsnow is just military propaganda anyway, meant to sell their "unquestionable" warmongering ways to the people who will die for what those in power think is a good cause for you to throw your life away with. don't believe the hype.
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artu
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posted February 01, 2017 05:01 PM |
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Edited by artu at 17:16, 01 Feb 2017.
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Well, it is perfect propaganda material for sure but I don't think it is only and completely that, especially with older generations when war was still seen as something chivalric (though it was not.) I read and heard many war veterans talk about such bond, and it makes sense that you develop such a bond if you're in a trench 24/7, fighting together for your life. Of course, this doesn't mean anybody would be on good terms with everybody else and there would be no animosity between some of the soldiers, that was one of the basic themes of Stone's Platoon, wasn't it, the animosity among the soldiers themselves.
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fred79
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posted February 01, 2017 05:06 PM |
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yeah, going through hellish times with anyone will form a bond, but that doesn't mean that the person you bonded with isn't still an snow that you wouldn't invite to dinner with your family. 
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Salamandre
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posted February 01, 2017 05:09 PM |
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When I was 18, I did all I could so I could get away without it. But now, a few years later , when I look at the young brats around crying about every micro aggression ruffling their pubic hairs, I believe its a good thing, as it throws one into some binding and necessary discipline, which is what we all experience later when we enter the employment universe, with all the humiliations and the unfair situations coming with.
At least, army prepares you somehow so you don't get too quick depressed. Should be about 6 months imo, anything longer will dramatically cut your studies and finally block you from being enough skilled and get a job.
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AlHazin
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posted February 01, 2017 05:18 PM |
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Salamandre said:
when I look at the young brats around crying about every micro aggression ruffling their pubic hairs
Are you exaggerating a bit or is it for real? Because I'm pretty sure it has to do with the mentality of people, culture, education... etc.
And btw, did you get out without doing the military?
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artu
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posted February 01, 2017 05:22 PM |
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We still have conscription, too. But every once in a while, you have open seasons (when the government is short on money) that you can pay a sum of money not to serve. So I did. I am very used to my own private space and living in a barracks with 50 other men was not something I was looking forward to. Not to mention all the nationalistic or religious crap you'll have to swim dive through, the whole time in there.
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Salamandre
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posted February 01, 2017 06:19 PM |
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AlHazin said:
Are you exaggerating a bit or is it for real? Because I'm pretty sure it has to do with the mentality of people, culture, education... etc.
Of course I'm exaggerating, why else I would write in forums
However, the 18 yo who, for 6 months, is forced to get up at 5 AM every day, is yelled at like a dog, has to endure the command chain -not disputable, accommodate with weapons metallic feeling and noise, is asked to clean toilets and has only one leaf for cleaning his arse will likely more relativize when let's say some buddy is making stereotyping lesbians jokes. Culture evolves with each challenge you pass through, is not only familial environment, country of origins or race. Army and prison are a hell of challenge.
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artu
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posted February 01, 2017 06:28 PM |
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In your age, military seems a little out of reach, Sal. But it's still not too late for prison. I suggest groping a minor student.
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Salamandre
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posted February 01, 2017 06:34 PM |
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I had my set of challenges you bohemians here can't even imagine, nor handle from what I read. 
I have no minor students, though. So I have to sacrifice my dreams and satisfy with older, like 18-25. 
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fred79
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posted February 01, 2017 06:48 PM |
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Edited by fred79 at 18:48, 01 Feb 2017.
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oh man, win. i recommend the last two posts for qp's.
edit: work with me, brain. or you're OUT.  
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AlHazin
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posted February 01, 2017 07:07 PM |
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Salamandre said:
I have no minor students, though. So I have to sacrifice my dreams and satisfy with older, like 18-25.
Oh poor poor Frenchy, stuck in the wrong side of the Mediterranean sea.
My father did the service. He did two years, mostly in Ain Mgel, which is basically the southest part you can get before you end up in Mali. Those years, Ramadan was in summer, so he had to fast 17 hours in about 50 degrees. He told me that when he had to go outside in the end of morning/afternoon, he had to walk with his hands on his eyes as the sunlight reflecting on the sand was burning the eyes.
When I asked him, he told me that he was satisfied. As strange as it might be, he enjoyed it. He told me that without the military service he would never had seen the desert. Plus since he has always been a great trader, he trader milk with the local Twaregs, which was illegal. He even bought some arts and sent them to my grandfather in Algiers to sell them three times their price. Army became a business for daddy.
Lawl, one night, he was in command of a barracks in Tamanghaset (gh like a french R). A group of German tourists got lost and they entered the barracks by mistake, all the sentinels were sleeping in their positions, and then one of them was woken up by a tourist, they all panicked upon noticing an infiltration hahahaha...
They didn't report the intrusion, the army, yeah...
My grandfather didn't do it, but his brother did, 2 years in the French army. Their father did 2 years too, in the French army, fought the Germans in WWI.
PS. Those were peaceful Algerian times (my father's), way before terrorism, banditism... etc. After those great times, we had to pay the consequences of indulging such a way of nation management.
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posted February 01, 2017 07:25 PM |
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Sal just lives in France, he's originally from Romania. just a little fyi.
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posted February 01, 2017 07:44 PM |
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The army can help with bonding but it is as cutthroat a place as any. It sure helps with developing a thicker skin though and gives you a lot of good stories. Ps loving the recent replies.
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AlHazin
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posted February 01, 2017 07:48 PM |
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kipshasz said:
Sal just lives in France, he's originally from Romania. just a little fyi.
I know, but he's French too. You can tell by his username, Salamandre, not Salamander, or Salamandrovitch.
PS. Now the military service period is of one year, odd habit that they take the students rather than those who didn't study.
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Salamandre
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posted February 01, 2017 07:51 PM |
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AlHazin said:
Oh poor poor Frenchy, stuck in the wrong side of the Mediterranean sea.
Why, I prefer girls to camels.
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AlHazin
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posted February 01, 2017 08:25 PM |
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As if we didn't have girls here too lol
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posted February 01, 2017 08:27 PM |
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Fred! Dude! I had no idea you were in the Army too. God seeing someone else use military specific vocab is funny. I've tried hard to civvie up my language so say SNOW every other word however, I have let a few phrases slip in here and there. When I'm teaching a new employee how to use our software, I let them know that I'm "gonna break it down Barney style" and if someone screwed something up in a database, they are sure to be informed how "ate up" it is.
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fred79
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posted February 01, 2017 09:17 PM |
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@ mm: you just NOW found out? and, you have no idea. i'll still sing the running/marching cadences sometimes, and my lingo and attire are still military-ish(altho i was wearing army fatigues long before i ever thought about joining the military). my sis's boyfriend still laughs at me because i wear polypro's/polartec insulated stuff, not to mention my old green military socks(which are comfortable as all get out) and use military lingo. i laugh at him because he's a weekend warrior. he keeps trying to get me to sign up for the "nasty guard", and i keep telling him to snow himself.
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