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MightyMage
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posted February 02, 2017 01:46 AM
Edited by MightyMage at 01:46, 02 Feb 2017.

I still wear my green socks (which are indeed super comfortable) and my Field Jacket.  I'll even throw on my PT Jacket when fall rolls around.  I was looking at the AAFES site a few weeks ago and thought about getting a jacket from the new style of PT gear.  I actually think the black and yellow looks pretty slick.

So wait, are you still active?

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posted February 02, 2017 02:31 AM

no way, man. not for 7 years now. and i wear my camo field jacket, too(although rarely, since i usually wear the camo pants). i bought a black one(to go with my black bdu pants) as well; with a liner. it's my go-to winter coat.

i used to wear my combat boots(the black leather ones), but i've since given them up for sneakers. more comfortable that way. especially with the green socks.

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posted February 02, 2017 05:37 AM

artu -
artu said:
Well, it is perfect propaganda material for sure but I don't think it is only and completely that, especially with older generations when war was still seen as something chivalric (though it was not.) I read and heard many war veterans talk about such bond, and it makes sense that you develop such a bond if you're in a trench 24/7, fighting  together for your life. Of course, this doesn't mean anybody would be on good terms with everybody else and there would be no animosity between some of the soldiers, that was one of the basic themes of Stone's Platoon, wasn't it, the animosity among the soldiers themselves.  
I am almost totally disagree with the any post in this thread, for an exception of ma own and this one.

The problem is burrowed in the next thing: all of you mistaken pathetic, common military disneyland service, and military serv. + war (but not a war, when you are sitting on 3-times feeding per day, and killing single under-age idiot that holds AK-rifle, with the air strike... ). This is a very different cases The peoples in this cases, acts in A VERY different ways.

I am particularly agreed with mr artu, and I can even add something from my own experiece. How strong different ideologies applied to the folks, that is in the stress conditions (such as war). Of course this will be truly subjective, and local statistic. And perhaps wrong, but anyway.. If we moving from the strong to weak:

Patriotism > Communism > Nationalism > Religion (to be more preciously Christianity, Orthodox stuff, and Islam) ,

Do not blame me, it is a very-very humble and subjective analysis that cannot be used as a general statistic. Anyway, everyone, regardless of the propaganda stuff in their sooner or later, askin a question, such as: "Bloody hell.. For what its worth?! What the hell I am doing here... This is all wrong! I gonna die, and thats all! The end. I need to get out..."

And from my experience, to listen to the "veteran-stories" it is a VERY bad idea... To obtain a truth from a veterans, usually you need to beat them I am joking.


MightyMage -

Hi, I am just curious, what a situation in the US army, what a moral of common soldiers? What they talking about the external politics of US? How a payments for the common infantry?

You said like you were in serve in US stuff, so..

Thanx for the answers.
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posted February 02, 2017 10:19 AM

Stick it to da man frosty Everyone else's opinions are subject to objectivity and/or propaganda so screw them - and this thread too. Now move along, go play somewhere else.
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posted February 02, 2017 02:01 PM

frostysh said:


MightyMage -

Hi, I am just curious, what a situation in the US army, what a moral of common soldiers? What they talking about the external politics of US? How a payments for the common infantry?

You said like you were in serve in US stuff, so..

Thanx for the answers.


I'll do my best here but some of your questions are difficult to understand.

When you say situation, do you mean living conditions?  Are you asking what the day to day for the average soldier is?

If so, I can only speak from my own experience. It varies from post to post in the US and also differs based on job.  My normal work day in the states consisted of waking up early as hell, before the sun was up, for our morning formation.  They would make sure everyone was there and if we didn't have anything more important to do, we would exercise.  For my unit, that usually meant running or what's called ruck marching which basically means put a bunch of stuff in your backpack and march a designated path for a set number of miles.  Usually around 10 or so miles.

After that, they give us some time to shower, change, and eat chow before "work".  We then had to get to the motor pool where we would spend most of our day unless we were doing a field exercise or inventory of our storage containers.  If it was Monday, we would have another formation but this one would be with our Command Sergeant Major so he could tell us how many people got in fights or did something dumb over the weekend.

Next we broke off into our Platoons and we're addressed by our Platoon Sergeant.  After he was done talking we broke off into our squads and our section sergeant would tell us what he wanted done before we could call it quits for the day.  Usually it involved checking our trucks and other equipment.  I was in a commo unit so we had to check our radios, computers, routers, and other fun stuff.

If we got done with our tasks quick, our team leader (another sergeant) would tell us to "pop smoke" and keep our phones on.

End of day formation was supposed to take place around 5:30 or 6 PM but in reality it was whenever our 1st Sergeant bothered to show up.

That was the average day.  There were plenty of times we did other stupid nonsense like field exercises, practice runs/ battle scenarios, rifle qual, gas chamber, and roll over drills.

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posted February 02, 2017 02:18 PM
Edited by Elvin at 14:23, 02 Feb 2017.

Where is the dishwashing, sweeping, wrapping your pillow and prepping your bed? Our captain wanted our blankets perfectly even and that required our blade.The pillow was also required to be impeccably folded within our second blanket. Serious business.
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posted February 02, 2017 06:57 PM

Elvin said:
Where is the dishwashing, sweeping, wrapping your pillow and prepping your bed? Our captain wanted our blankets perfectly even and that required our blade.The pillow was also required to be impeccably folded within our second blanket. Serious business.


I didn't even think to mention all that.  Yeah, we had room inspections all the time.  It was just force of habit to get up and make my bed.  I had a ruler that I kept in my dresser drawer to perfectly measure everything.



This wasn't mine but it's close enough.

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posted February 02, 2017 07:03 PM

A ruler...? That's going into extreme, even more if those superiors wanted everything perfect.
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posted February 02, 2017 07:29 PM
Edited by MightyMage at 22:32, 02 Feb 2017.

EnergyZ said:
A ruler...? That's going into extreme, even more if those superiors wanted everything perfect.


You have no idea.  They would make your life hell if your bed was a mess.









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posted February 02, 2017 07:54 PM

Oh my God, that bed has wrinkles! Man, the silliness of it all. Once we had an inspection by our commander and the coffee guy's bed was not well-made. We would normally make it for him since he was away but that day he got a day's prison out of bad luck
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posted February 02, 2017 11:12 PM

But this isn't something the military should teach, but hotel staff!

Anyway, I guess I should be lucky that I have a collapsible bed that can be turned into a sofa.

And, new (unsurprising) news - the president and the prime minister that want the military service in the country - didn't even serve the military when the time for that was. And, even more unsurprising is the fact that when they were supposed to serve the military, the independence war was raging on, about 25 years ago.
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posted February 03, 2017 09:21 AM

Elvin - mr Elvin, I think your dramatizing situation for too much.

MightyMage -

1. I am not a spy, as far as I know. (I just do not care, if you think about that when answering to, or if you not - just want to say that), spies obviously will not ask such stupid and straight question, and they have far more convenient information about mighty US army . I have this curiosity just for myself.

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MightyMage said:

- Thanx for that, I have laughed for a long time . Dude, this is frigging 5-stars Hotel . + Instruction about bed, Jesus.... - Don't think that I have disrespect to US army, I just curios about some field-manuals stuff of them .

EnergyZ -
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the president and the prime minister that want the military service in the country - didn't even serve the military when the time for that was
This is does not matter. I stick with opinion, that military/war issues better to not left for jurisdiction of militants Usually, guys that was on the war (real), have serious psychological problems, even if you do not see any evidence of that...
EnergyZ said:
the independence war was raging on, about 25 years ago.
Just do not like wars me.
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posted February 03, 2017 11:02 AM

frostysh said:
I am not a spy.


You are.
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posted February 03, 2017 11:15 AM

AlHazin said:
frostysh said:
I am not a spy.


You are.


He's too dumb to be one. He's just a troll. An antifa troll. The worst kind of troll there is.
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posted February 03, 2017 04:19 PM

AlHazin, Kipshasz -

yo haters. whsap?

Mr Kipshasz, I am nto a spy nor a mythological creature - the troll. Yes, I am little bit not so smart as brilliant Kipshasz or AlHazin, but so what? .
I can easily imagine that my thoughts is false, and your far-right-nation stuff is true, and even if it's becoming reality I will be fine in this case too.
But what happens with you guys, if my thought is a true, and your is false? What you will do in this case?

Besides, following logic or mr Kipshasz, I am not only antifa troll, but also antico troll, and antire troll. For an example you can read the quote of mr Hoffer about commie-guys that represented in my signature, and describing my feelings about that.

"The monstrous evils of the twentieth century have shown us that the greediest money grubbers are gentle doves compared with money-hating wolves like Lenin, Stalin, and Hitler, who in less than three decades killed or maimed nearly a hundred million men, women, and children and brought untold suffering to a large portion of mankind." - Eric Hoffer

<imo> I feel guys, you have a standard bias of "straigh-natio-ideology" guys. You cannot left it's borders, even if it is necessary...

P.S. Adminger - me sorry for little bit offtopic, me good



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posted February 03, 2017 07:04 PM

ban him, plea.

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posted February 04, 2017 11:17 AM

frostych said:
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posted February 04, 2017 11:49 AM

don't feed the troll.
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posted February 08, 2017 05:52 PM
Edited by EnergyZ at 18:21, 08 Feb 2017.

Things are heating up in here. An organization, translated as "workers' union" or somesuch, has announced they would protest against this military service a few days ago. Apparently, today they went to report this to the officials, the place of the protest being just outside the headquarters of the ministry of defense, on February 11, 2017.

Alarming news are that someone else has decided to make a protest at the exact same place, just 30 minutes earlier. The officials have refused the anti-military protest, due to *that* reason. Apparently, this other protest is pro-military.

And, just to "spice things up", one of the parliament members has commented on this military service. The guy was somewhat annoyed, stating "where is the right for all the young people to just flee away from the country when the war is raging". It just people like these that make me truly disgusted by the country I live in. We have a high unemployment rate that forces a lot of people to fly off to Germany or other countries, while people like these just comment from their "golden toilets".

And, just to remind, that some people, after finishing high school, have to work to pay college the next year.

Aaaand now people are starting to say that whoever is against this military service hates its own country
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posted February 08, 2017 06:54 PM

they do realise that Febuary 11th is a Saturday, right? And they're gonna be shouting their slogans and crap at the facade of an empty building.
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