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JollyJoker
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posted December 05, 2020 08:06 PM |
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Which may be true or not - it didn't matter then what people thought and it doesn't matter now, what they think. From a constitutional point of view.
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posted December 05, 2020 08:07 PM |
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Salamandre said: Exactly as half of democrats, back in 2016, who when polled answered that Russia got Trump elected.
We are dumb. For the most part I think it is the escalation of media wars in the US in the past 10-20 years. The reoccurring theme is to run to your respective battlestation and defend your team without thinking. It is like a Pavlovian reaction. Just do.
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posted December 05, 2020 09:38 PM |
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@ jj: it wasn't true. that was bs cooked up by hillary that involved obama, biden, and the feds. that's fact; look it up. that was the globalist's first illegal attempt to remove Trump.
@ blizz: speak for yourself.
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posted December 05, 2020 09:47 PM |
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fred79
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posted December 05, 2020 10:07 PM |
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i don't understand why Trump would expect these people to suddenly change tactics. these people aren't going to reverse being scum at the drop of a hat. Trump's too nice to these people; he should be just having the evidence compiled, then present it all in court. if the court proves corrupted, make anything the public doesn't know(which would be miniscule, most likely), public. have an action plan, notify the public of it, and coordinate and execute said plan.
this subversion of our nation cannot be allowed. we're at a tipping point; and if nothing is done soon, it almost certainly never will be. we will have utterly lost our nation to scum. the damage they will do, will likely cause a worse uprising, than if they just waited until next election and did things legally and constitutionally; and won fair and square.
but who am i kidding; they won't do that.
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posted December 05, 2020 10:12 PM |
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There weare cyberattacks, that much is clear. The question is, by whom and to what effect, if any.
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posted December 05, 2020 10:56 PM |
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The reason why Trump hasn't compiled all the evidence and presented it in court is because there is no evidence of the "fraud" he's claiming. He lost by a huge margin.
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posted December 05, 2020 11:17 PM |
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well, i'm certainly glad you came out of nowhere to fill us with your wisdom.
suddenly, i see the light.
i tell you, if it hadn't of come from the wolfmeister himself, i would have never believed it.
it's a good thing so many leftists had the patience to educate me over this election.
i tell's ya.
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posted December 06, 2020 12:01 AM |
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Well there's a blast from the past.
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posted December 06, 2020 01:17 AM |
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Wolfman said: The reason why Trump hasn't compiled all the evidence and presented it in court is because there is no evidence of the "fraud" he's claiming. He lost by a huge margin.
holy **** hahahahaha this is awesome lol
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posted December 06, 2020 06:51 AM |
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@JJ
I did some further research on the subject and turns out this is not a resolved matter among historians. But considering in 1930’s, Europe was the power center of the world, I’d still call the motive global: Link
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posted December 06, 2020 09:32 AM |
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posted December 06, 2020 08:28 PM |
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I'm glad I could help you out, Fred. Also, probably the first time on this site I've been referred to as a leftist. That's a fun change.
The constant vilification of professional election workers around the country is only hurting the democratic process in the United States for the future. These people are professionals that only care about making sure people are able to vote, that their vote counts, and each election is conducted in a fair manner. There are no politics involved. Getting more people to vote for one candidate or another is up to the campaigns. Election workers just count them.
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posted December 06, 2020 09:26 PM |
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go back and do some reading. you are hideously ill informed.
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posted December 06, 2020 10:34 PM |
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@Wolfman
Anyone who doesn't agree with fred is a leftist and a globalist.
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JollyJoker
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posted December 06, 2020 10:42 PM |
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And ill informed - a victim of msm.
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posted December 06, 2020 11:01 PM |
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Edited by fred79 at 23:05, 06 Dec 2020.
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it's not an opinion. that's what you guys aren't getting. there are facts, and there are non-facts. i only give a snow about facts.
if i call you a leftist, it's because your viewpoints and talking points reflect theirs.
jj outted himself as a pro-globalist, if you don't remember, cor. he also parrots leftists, so he's a leftist. it doesn't matter if you THINK of yourself as anything else, if your views are leftist or pro-globalist, that's what the snow you are.
being a nationalist, i stand against globalists. yes, this is also a fact.
being a right-leaning centrist who actually has all his mental facilities, i stand against leftists. their views are destructive to every society they are a part of, and moreover, the left is the platform the globalists primarily use. also fact.
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posted December 06, 2020 11:10 PM |
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I never did respond to this:
Salamandre said: Probably those who voted for Trump would want to know if fraud was committed, - there are some fraud antecedents when you look back in time at previous elections.
Now, on the fact that they would support Trump refusing the loss even if fraud figures are insufficient to change the results, there is no evidence. I see no major or minor republican representative suggesting that, Trump included. Or blogger, alternative medias etc. He should be allowed to exhaust all legal possibilities, then move on.
All this fuss is well-oiled, when there is not enough fascist behavior supply, let's just pretend there is one. Well, no.
@Sal
But "exhausting all legal possibilities" isn't the same thing as dirtying the election to sew doubt in the public. Trump's inner circle might know that he lost, but the wider public might be more vulnerable to believing everything the president says (we have a living Avatar of that right here in this forum that has fallen prey to this).
And I'm guessing at this point you're going to want to point out similar behavior from the Democratic party. Okay, fine, I'll agree with you that the investigation of collusion with Russia was made more hysterical than it should have been by amped-up Democrats with an axe to grind, but 1) that investigation didn't stop the president from being the president or from running his administration on a day-to-day basis, and 2) Trump himself was partially responsible for the hysteria because of the way he responded to it and was constantly rage-tweeting about it.
So I don't consider the one to be nearly of the same scale or same kind of animal as the other. One of them was about possible collusion during campaigning and another one challenges the validity of the entire election. In any case, the one doesn't vindicate the other; rather they both cause more harm to confidence in public servants. Many Republicans are satisfied enough with a better than expected GOP performance in the Congressional elections and are prepping for the next round in 2022. Trump has not done this. Creating an erratic transition of power from one lawfully elected president to another lawfully elected president has put a shadow on US democracy and now fewer people think the elections function as they are intended to function, despite them being more secure than what they have been in the past.
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posted December 07, 2020 07:23 AM |
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This thread is now closed. For any further discussion about the US 2020 Election, you may go here.
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