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purerogue
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posted October 11, 2022 04:10 PM |
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Take your shots and get your lazy ass to Ukraine.
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posted October 11, 2022 04:51 PM |
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Alternatively, go to Russia, if it's that bad here.
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Drakon-Deus
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posted October 11, 2022 04:59 PM |
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JollyJoker said:
Alternatively, go to Russia, if it's that bad here.
Believe me that I would even do that if I could, just to be away from the EU and its lunacy.
At the moment it's more likely that our great leaders in Romania are going to make us freeze to death in the winter, or a more unlikely possibility is that they'll send me and countless other men to fight.
As I was saying, what a wonderful life. 
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posted October 11, 2022 06:25 PM |
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I don't see the problem. You can go to Russia via Turkey.
And why would your leaders make you freeze to death? Romania looks pretty good, energy-wise. Are they urging you to save energy? I mean, what's wrong with a sweatshirt?
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posted October 11, 2022 06:32 PM |
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JollyJoker said:
I don't see the problem. You can go to Russia via Turkey.
And why would your leaders make you freeze to death? Romania looks pretty good, energy-wise. Are they urging you to save energy? I mean, what's wrong with a sweatshirt?
Thank you for the tip. If I finally decide to go to Russia you'll be the first I say good riddance to.
Nothing wrong with sweatshirts. Nothing wrong with paying really high power bills and with rising prices for food and other necessary things for life, when the average Romanian earns something like a maximum of 500 euro per month, after taxes. No problemo. After all, we have to stop bogeyman Russia from taking over the world.
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posted October 11, 2022 06:49 PM |
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Except that's not true. Ukraine is trying to stop Russia while we sit on the sideline financing and supplying them. Since resource delivery from Russia has come to an end therefore, Russia now sells their stuff to the OPEC countries - pricier - and the OPEC countries sell us the Russian stuff - a lot pricier. So THEY are the guys who fill their pockets, profiteering from the West's standing for something.
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Drakon-Deus
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posted October 11, 2022 06:56 PM |
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JollyJoker said:
Except that's not true. Ukraine is trying to stop Russia while we sit on the sideline financing and supplying them. Since resource delivery from Russia has come to an end therefore, Russia now sells their stuff to the OPEC countries - pricier - and the OPEC countries sell us the Russian stuff - a lot pricier. So THEY are the guys who fill their pockets, profiteering from the West's standing for something.
Yes, thanks for clarifying. The main point is that the current situation sucks for the EU countries and of course for Ukraine too.
I wish my country would be led by someone who actually put his own people's interests first. Like what Hungary and Serbia are doing.
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posted October 11, 2022 07:13 PM |
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JollyJoker said:
Ukraine is trying to stop Russia while we sit on the sideline financing and supplying them.
you would rather the rest of the world get militarily involved?
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posted October 11, 2022 07:45 PM |
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All of this discussion makes me want to sunbathe in December, too bad I'll probably need to wear at least a t-shirt, the cool air of winter would require it.
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purerogue
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posted October 11, 2022 07:55 PM |
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JollyJoker
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posted October 11, 2022 09:02 PM |
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Drakon-Deus said:
JollyJoker said:
I wish my country would be led by someone who actually put his own people's interests first. Like what Hungary and Serbia are doing.
See, that sums the problem up quite well:
1) What are "the people's interest (of a specific country)"?
2) How would YOU know what that is (and determine whether the leaders are serving them or not)?
3) Are we talking about short or long term interest - how far should we look ahead when determining people's interest?
And so on.
Now, what ARE Hungary and Serbia actually doing so differently? And how is their situation comparable with Romania's?
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posted October 11, 2022 09:34 PM |
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JJ, *I* may not KNOW for certain what are the people's best interests, short term or long term, but I can have an opinion on what I think would be best for the people, especially if we're talking about my own country.
And my opinion is that every person wants to have the living standards improved and not worsened. A leader should look to make the country a better place to live in every aspect. And our current president and his cohorts have done anything but that. Really, it's the opposition party that's been trying to improve our living standards by raising the minimum wage or helping the elderly. But that's another story and not for this thread.
By participating in these "sanctions" against Russia it seems to me that it's the common people in European countries like mine that take the blow, as I said earlier.
Now, Hungary and Serbia agreed recently to build a pipeline to bring in Russian oil for instance.
Hungary is in the EU, but Viktor Orban has been firm in his position that continuing sanctions against Russia and letting the war escalate is not the way to go. And Serbia is not in the EU but from what I understand they are not as hostile to Russia now as is Romania and other EU states.
Romania's leaders just cheer on what the western countries say and do on the Ukraine problem, and they put down everything coming from Russia. Four legs good, two legs bad.
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posted October 11, 2022 10:42 PM |
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Drakon-Deus said:
And my opinion is that every person wants to have the living standards improved and not worsened. A leader should look to make the country a better place to live in every aspect.
jj and the others won't understand that simple, logical, and decent concept. they'll just follow their leaders blindly, no matter what they do. because then they'll fit in with the herd/narrative.
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posted October 11, 2022 11:00 PM |
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Drakon-Deus said:
And my opinion is that every person wants to have the living standards improved and not worsened.
Depends on the price that has to be paid and who has to pay it.
Drakon-Deus said:
Now, Hungary and Serbia agreed recently to build a pipeline to bring in Russian oil for instance.
Hungary is in the EU, but Viktor Orban has been firm in his position that continuing sanctions against Russia and letting the war escalate is not the way to go.
Hungary just signed the new sanctions.
Look, Russia IS the problem here. THEY attacked, not just now but in 2014 already. You want to encourage that kind of behaviour?
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posted October 11, 2022 11:18 PM |
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I think it's pretty obvious that cutting electricity and heater for the population is not a result of caring about their best interest.
If that happens, it's pretty hardcore, I don't think people realize it.
And USA has been pissing off Russia since way before 2014, remember Putin's 2007 speech.
The hypocrisy is horrendous, yes Russia is violating international law by attacking Ukraine but no one said anything or took sanctions when USA/NATO has been doing it multiple times in other parts of the world.
That said, things are getting from bad to worse, Putin clearly underestimated Ukraine army and NATO, so things might keep turning out uglier. I'm not very reassured to know Russian army is facing, between others, French canons and German tanks.
Btw, I know a few people stuck in Russia right now, they are hiding and trying to buy a paper that allows them to get out the country, which is understandable as they don't want to be sent to death in Ukraine.
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posted October 11, 2022 11:24 PM |
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JollyJoker said:
Drakon-Deus said:
And my opinion is that every person wants to have the living standards improved and not worsened.
Depends on the price that has to be paid and who has to pay it.
he already explained WHO is paying it, genius. rub a couple brain cells together.
and your second paragraph expressly verifies what i just pointed out in my post prior to this one. "muh russia bad, it's all on them". smooth-brained take there, guy. there are more forces at play than just "muh russia". the russian population is being forced into a meatgrinder of someone else's making(as are the actual ukrainians, and not the jews who jumped ship to israel the second they knew the ball was rolling for ukraine); it has nothing to do even with putin OR the expansion of russian territory. things are NEVER what they appear to be. they NEVER are. there is ALWAYS something else going on.
you would think, in the age of the digital information, where literally the WORLD is at your fingertips, that people would be able to educate themselves beyond what they're told on television and msm. like what my parents and THEIR parents had to deal with. it's like the internet doesn't exist, but to entertain you cretins.
snowing pathetic. i couldn't live with myself, if i was that embarrassing. i don't know how in the snow you guys are able to look in the mirror. my guess is, you don't pause for self-reflection; or even know how that could even apply to you.
the INFORMATION age, and your kind LACK IT. so far BEYOND lacking information, that i don't even have an adequate phrase that could properly describe how OUT OF TOUCH you people are. literally TEN MINUTES OF YOUR TIME, and you could be better informed. TEN snowING MINUTES, and still, MONTHS into this meat-grinder "conflict", and it's "muh russia bad".
jesus christ. i really hate you retarded mothersnowers.
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posted October 11, 2022 11:25 PM |
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On what Russia did, I don't think it's normal or acceptable behaviour or anything of the sort. And that said I admit I am not well familiar with 2014 events or what happened since then in the regions that Russia wants to annex.
But looking at the situation right now I want peace to come in Ukraine, and not a continuous conflict in Ukraine, or even more, a large scale war with Ukraine supported by EU/NATO on one side and Russia on the other. Absolutely not.
And for my country I hope for something better in the 2024 elections. But who knows what may happen until then. Nothing good I'm afraid.
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Galaad
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posted October 11, 2022 11:25 PM |
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fred79 said:
jesus christ. i really hate you retarded mothersnowers.
Fred, you know that's against the rules.
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purerogue
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posted October 11, 2022 11:43 PM |
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Drakon-Deus said:
the 2024 elections
Don't worry, Bidet - I mean Biden is on it. The strategic petroleum reserve can easily run negative, it's all trans.. itory. Don't let little-p get all the credit with his price hike, clearly it wasn't Helicopter Ben who deserved the 2022 Nobel prize for Economics
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posted October 12, 2022 12:51 AM |
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Galaad said:
Putin clearly underestimated Ukraine army and NATO, so things might keep turning out uglier.
Putin is a pragmatic, he could not imagine we will sit like ducks while our "leaders" barter their people interest and well being for getting attention in their EU bureaucratic bubbles, then invoking ethical and moral principles they never applied elsewhere, despite more than evidence.
That being said, Putin sent only a tiny fraction of Russian potential army in Ukraine, they have been fighting since mars at 1:6 ratio, so the question is now him being able to draft more or not. He also was very moderate in his war strategy, he avoided civilians as much as possible, he avoided the destruction of power stations, the destruction of infrastructures and such, while he COULD do it and by that force Zelensky to reconsider negotiations instead of making dramatic faces in front of a submissive EU parliament. But now, that we keep calling him Hitler and basically put a red target on every Russian abroad, why should he show same restrain?
Most of the idiots on medias calling Russian entire annihilation as a whole do not understand different peoples are not made from same alloy. Putin, who is still majorly popular - more than ever if polls are considered, will not just present his excuses if Ukraine/USA knocks at Moscow doors. He will unleash apocalypse, he always had one word.
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