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posted March 19, 2009 05:19 PM |
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Part reasoning, part intuition.
Can you tell what kind of a part comes from reasoning and what from intuition? I don't want to put words in your mouth, but you have way too brief posts! We make many pages continuing like this. So I guess it is something on the lines with you can't believe in evolution as the sole reason behind why life is so complex here on Earth? And intuition.. you can feel his presence?
So if possible, make a comprehensive post about God. If that is possible. I must say that you don't sound like a Christian, mainly because you haven't cited Bible yet 
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posted March 19, 2009 10:04 PM |
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I said we don't know the _extent_ of the difference, TheDeath. Not that we are not different.
We know the difference in structure. We know the difference in "macro effects" (i.e what we see in behavior), and it is surprising that it is SIMILAR in some areas, since the structure is totally different.
Now, you can stare at a structure all day long, you'll know the difference. Doesn't mean you'll know how it works, which is what I think you're trying to say.
Now for what you asked Doomforge, Minion you have to realize that, contrary to what atheists claim, religious people are not all knowing about God. In fact even in the Bible there is no description of how God looks like, for example (made in his "image" is not meant visually, with colors btw, I mean photons didn't even freaking existed lol! just simple philosophy).
My basis on believing in God are more philosophical/theological but I admit, it's also a bit influenced (such as if you ask me why I believe in the Christian God and not the others). To be fair, I don't exactly believe in the Christian God, but a somehow different perception, although still similar (example: atheists says Hell is to scare you off; I say Hell is the "place" of those dragged by the Devil who refused God's help -- also the "eternal suffering" is actually a part of you (if you're "evil")).
I mean really Minion, there are philosophers who philosophize about love as well, but seriously are you able to explain it simply to them what love is, like you ask about God? 
As a side note, everything you feel is only in your head. So naturally, if we take mind & soul into consideration for this, it wouldn't be hard to imagine IF someone can "hear" God. It isn't physical air pressure... it uses the "medium" in your 'head' so to speak. (even the air pressure is "converted" into that, so to speak).
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posted March 23, 2009 04:10 PM |
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God is something unexplainable.
humans can only guess what It looks like and how It works, as well as honoring them through prayers. humans interpreted God with their languages, and so religions were created.
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posted March 30, 2009 06:04 AM |
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To those who say "Oh, that's the Old Testament": "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work." 2 Timothy 3:16-17
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posted March 30, 2009 10:58 AM |
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Yeah, it says all the Bible is important in a few places, but how do we judge what is Bible and what is not?
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mvassilev
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posted March 30, 2009 02:50 PM |
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Minion
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posted March 30, 2009 03:39 PM |
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Awkward silence surrounds my questions about God 
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posted March 30, 2009 03:59 PM |
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The Bible is not infalliable. It would be dogmatic to suggest otherwise.
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posted March 30, 2009 04:15 PM |
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Minion, I have nothing to add to what Death said about your question.
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posted March 30, 2009 10:44 PM |
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The Bible is not infalliable. It would be dogmatic to suggest otherwise.
Indeed. And yet religion is known for being rather dogmatic.
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Minion
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posted March 30, 2009 11:42 PM |
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I never claimed you are all knowing about God. I specifically asked what is it that you DO know about God. If it is nothing, I'd like to hear it too. But all I see is dancing around the question ;P I wonder why.
Edit. This is weird, usually responses are abundant ^^
In case you are afraid I am here to challenge your personal view, I am not, but to compare it with others. I think it is an interesting subject. The reason I said "I wonder why" is because most people are simply taught to be religious and don't spare a moment to think about their faith.
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posted April 06, 2009 07:42 PM |
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Do we have a poll about believing in god?
(and I surely dont mean a poll about what religion one belongs to, just if they believe in a supreme being or not).
I got rather curious about the number of believers/atheists here in the HC.
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posted April 06, 2009 08:18 PM |
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Statistics are not really intriguing.
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Minion
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posted April 06, 2009 11:26 PM |
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Statistics are not really intriguing.
The only thing you seem to be interested in is attacking science 
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posted April 06, 2009 11:29 PM |
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For me religion and science do not necessarily exclude each other...
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posted April 07, 2009 09:55 AM |
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That's very obvious. They are completely about different things, so how in world can they even collide with each other?
And how one can be "attacking" science? It's just a knowledge about the world and universe. It's not a way of living (such as religion is), and it does not have "followers" or "haters". It just exists. Can't be compared to religion in any way, and vice versa.
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posted April 07, 2009 10:00 AM |
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That's very obvious. They are completely about different things, so how in world can they even collide with each other?
Well, for example, science says that there was a huge bang and voila, the world was born. According to the Bible, God created the world.
What if God made that huge bang and by doing that, created us all?
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Doomforge
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posted April 07, 2009 10:24 AM |
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Religion states God did it.
Science searches for an answer to a question: how did it happen.
Not very colliding, not even related much.
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kainc
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posted April 07, 2009 10:54 AM |
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Religion states God did it.
Science searches for an answer to a question: how did it happen.
Not very colliding, not even related much.
But COULD science ever accept the conclusion that GOD made it happen? Well, maybe if there was some evidences.
Well.. for me, it's all the same what religion or science thinks. I'm not excluding either the big bang or God as the creator (even if there was the bb).
Another story is evolution. If creatures have evolved from point X, does that say God didn't create them? I see that God could have given them genes needed to evolve to the stage they are now. And what comes to this chimp - human thing, I believe they have been very much alike in the past but not evolved from exactly the same... thing.
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posted April 07, 2009 12:54 PM |
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I haven't read all the posts its way too much 
I just want to view some of my points
referring to the bible try read job 26:7 and explain how he could know that at a time when others wasn't even close to the thoughts he stated.
Today i think the general opinion of religion and faith is that is for less intellectual people, especially it is the opinion in the northern. Sometimes i think people believing in evolotion look at religion and evolution in a to simple way.
Im afraid i don't have the time to explain my opinions and thoughts more specific right now.
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