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Golemcrafter
Promising
Famous Hero
Unlimited Fantasy Master
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posted April 29, 2007 09:20 PM |
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My simple answer to the main question:
"Every fraction is weak if you can't play them well."
Second answer: hmm, maybe Academy...
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feluniozbunio
Promising
Supreme Hero
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posted April 29, 2007 09:28 PM |
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Each time i play with Betruger i come to conclusion that the faction i play is the weakest
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Beowolf
Adventuring Hero
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posted April 29, 2007 09:36 PM |
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If You two were playing some interesing game, why not share the experiance with us here?
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ZombieLord
Promising
Famous Hero
that wants your brainz...
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posted April 29, 2007 09:38 PM |
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I think it will be much cooler to share our games with the new replay function in patch 1.5
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ChaosDragon
Famous Hero
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posted April 29, 2007 10:28 PM |
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Quote: Nope
Familiars have like 69 damage/week
Horned Overseers have a little above 55
Cerberi have 70
(I don't remember the exact numbers)
So you are completely wrong, my friend. Refer to the charts for more info ;P
I'm not speaking of chart, chart only has little thing to do with the reality, consider all the number from two heroes (main and second), and from week 1, when there is only 8 cerberus, there is already about 40++ horned overseer, that's what i mean, also, cerberus will be over in one battle, that makes horned do better damage.
If i'm speaking of hart, then inferno and necro is the weakest of all.
@feluniozbunio: huh? if you refer to dungeon, how can be dungeon is the weakest?
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ZombieLord
Promising
Famous Hero
that wants your brainz...
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posted April 29, 2007 10:34 PM |
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Quote: @feluniozbunio: huh? if you refer to dungeon, how can be dungeon is the weakest?
Maybe he wanted to say that Betruger is a better player
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Doomforge
Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
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posted April 29, 2007 10:44 PM |
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No, he meant Betruger is a great player (cause he is)
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pomo
Famous Hero
The lone peasant
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posted April 30, 2007 06:19 AM |
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Quote:
Quote: So you are completely wrong
You are completely wrong here
Familiar:
Damage 2-3, growth 16
Horned Overseer:
Damage 1-4, growth 15 (+2 with horde)
It seems they do the same average damage after all
Not really, cos the familiars have 13 init, while the demons only have 8 Although they won't last long I guess.
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nickkkk
Known Hero
Necro fan since 1988
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posted April 30, 2007 08:12 AM |
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Quote: still Horned Overseers are exceptionally slow, although, would you think they'd be better if the had unlimited retaliation?
very good remark, if not possible at least to raise the HP to 17 let's say and damage 2-4 or 3-4. Then it would be a good army.
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nickkkk
Known Hero
Necro fan since 1988
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posted April 30, 2007 08:14 AM |
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Quote: I think it will be much cooler to share our games with the new replay function in patch 1.5
what do you mean by this, more specific?
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Sanyu
Known Hero
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posted April 30, 2007 08:15 AM |
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Quote:
Quote: still Horned Overseers are exceptionally slow, although, would you think they'd be better if the had unlimited retaliation?
very good remark, if not possible at least to raise the HP to 17 let's say and damage 2-4 or 3-4. Then it would be a good army.
No need, be happy with the way they are, their population is nice
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nickkkk
Known Hero
Necro fan since 1988
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posted April 30, 2007 08:20 AM |
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Quote:
Quote:
Quote: still Horned Overseers are exceptionally slow, although, would you think they'd be better if the had unlimited retaliation?
very good remark, if not possible at least to raise the HP to 17 let's say and damage 2-4 or 3-4. Then it would be a good army.
No need, be happy with the way they are, their population is nice
true but you have to have a lot of them. I had diplomacy and over 1500 joined me. I was really
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Doomforge
Admirable
Undefeatable Hero
Retired Hero
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posted April 30, 2007 10:37 AM |
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for how much $$$?
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Sanyu
Known Hero
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posted April 30, 2007 10:49 AM |
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Seriously at over 1500 overseers, you are as good as indestructible.
The highest I have reached was 900 and the damage could kill anything.
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ChaosDragon
Famous Hero
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posted April 30, 2007 12:07 PM |
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Ofc, that's almost legion.
Quote: Not really, cos the familiars have 13 init, while the demons only have 8 Although they won't last long I guess.
And that make overseer do more damage than familiar, i'm speaking of no deleb, therefore some familiar must be sacrificed.
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nickkkk
Known Hero
Necro fan since 1988
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posted April 30, 2007 04:19 PM |
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Well yes, with 1500 you really don't have nothing to worry about. I don't recall joining for $ but if they did you do the math 1500X60 or something like that. But I am pretty sure they joined because of my looks.
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Pomo
Famous Hero
The lone peasant
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posted April 30, 2007 04:31 PM |
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Even 900 overseers is just silly to even talk about. Why on earth would you bother to play a game that lasts that long? Maybe in a campaign or something, but never in multiplayer.
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linkTouched by His Noodly Appendage
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Sanyu
Known Hero
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posted April 30, 2007 05:13 PM |
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Quote: Even 900 overseers is just silly to even talk about. Why on earth would you bother to play a game that lasts that long? Maybe in a campaign or something, but never in multiplayer.
Are you sure? I have my ways of dragging a game and forcing my opponent to tackle me in very late-game...
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted April 30, 2007 05:21 PM |
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If you try to, a good opponent will invade your area and start stealing things or maybe wait until the dragon utopias can be revisited. To do that you must have too great an army for him to consider that or turtle behing your walls. In any case there are hit&run tactics for the magic factions.
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Map also hosted on Moddb
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ChaosDragon
Famous Hero
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posted April 30, 2007 06:49 PM |
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For me, turtling or rushing are only player styles.
I don't like turtling, it's too boring, but sometimes it's so fun to force my opponent to very late game.
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