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I got three questions to religious people:
1. Do you consider God a male or genderless?
2. Do you view God as something as a "creature", something that lives, or just an universial energy?
3. If we found intelligent aliens on another planet, would you still believe in God? Since humans are supposed to be "Gods choosen made in his own image" et cetera and then we suddenly find out that there are millions of other planets like Earth with their own unique speices.
4. Isn't it possible that Jesus was gay? He hang out with 12 guys who wore dresses, one looks like a female in a painting.
1. God is a genderless Spirit who also exists as the [now glorified] man Jesus Christ.
2. God is a persoal being, not a force or energy.
3. Yes, the existence of extraterrestial beings would not contradict the existence of God.
4. No. Homosexual sex is sin according to the Bible. Jesus is sinless.
Jesus had 12 disciples to signify the 12 tribes of Israel. A robe is not a dress. There were actually a number of differences in male and female robes among the Jews. Perhaps you should research that.
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What the Bible says nowadays is not what it used to say 2000 years ago.
Through textual criticism and the many thousands of manuscripts we have, we know we have the orignial words of the Bible to within 99.9% accuracy. The deviations are mostly in word order or spelling and such.
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On the average, Old Testament documents yield about one variation per page of text; New Testament manuscripts yield only a tenth of one percent variance. In other words, 99.9% of those manuscripts are in perfect agreement.
Though an occasional scribe altered a text to be copied, the resulting deviant copy constitutes only an infrequent departure from the plethora of copies available for corroborating comparison. Even as later copyists unknowingly passed on certain aberrations, appeals to still earlier or more reliable documents still preserve the original message.
Thanks to textual criticism and on-going archaeological discoveries, even as time passes far beyond the date of the original writings, we may be confident that the Bible of today is a fully trustworthy duplication of the original autographs.
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Looks like Elodin gave up the ghost?
No, I've just been rather busy of late.
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DagothGares
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posted February 23, 2010 03:51 PM |
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4. No. Homosexual sex is sin according to the Bible. Jesus is sinless.
Yeah, isn't that obvious? He couldn't have been homosexual, because homosexual sex is a sin! Gawsh!
Also, I have this little guy with a higher knowledge which stretches beyond that of humans. He will answer your questions.
1. nevermore
2. nevermore
3. nevermore
4. nevermore
I hope this was most helpful.
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posted February 23, 2010 04:13 PM |
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Jesus christ... is aquaman.
or incredibly similar, to aquaman
Let me clarify this. Both have powers relating to water, both are able to summon a copious amount of fish at the drop of a hat, both are able to calm the sees, both hang around fishermen, both were betrayed by people close to them, both cause alot of trouble whenever they go into a populated area, and both died and then got retconned back alive again.
but in all seriousness, Jesus was probably gay. I mean, he hung around most of his life with 12 men, and the only woman who possibly loved him was sent away for being a snow.
More to the point, what is wrong with that? Homosexual or heterosexual, Love is love. It's a beautiful power of creation and destruction, it's a majestic creature, whatever form it takes. the niggles of who it's with is, quiet frankly, rubbish, it's a beauitful thing. To say that you can't do it because it doesn't fit an age old code that probably needs updating, That is sinful.
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I have three questions for not religious people.
1. Why do you not suscribe to any particular religious group?
2. What exactly do you believe in?
3. If it was discovered that people are getting stamped with the number of the beast and a nine headed dragon appeared wearing crowns and mocking God, how would you react?
4. Is it possible that you are gay?
1. I don't particularly feel any particular link with a religious group. Maybe I just haven't found the right one, or maybe I need to form my own, Hey, I'm at university, I'm sure I can get a following.
2. I believe that knowledge, information, tolerance and love is "Sacred", I believe in the knowledge of all things, and I believe that Vladimir putin is Fabulous.
3. Probably lay of the drugs. Anyway, most of my written material has been offering a rather sympathetic image of the devil and the anti-christ, making them out to be human. So if I am going to hell, I know I can get myself a reasonable nice job there.
4. Bi-sexual, yes.
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Shares
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posted February 23, 2010 04:30 PM |
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Oh god! I wrote something long, serious and good, but something went wrong and I ended up with only the quotes!
So I'll guess I'll just answer these. The short way, and not question stuff (maybe it was a sign ). For now.
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I have three questions for not religious people.
1. Why do you not suscribe to any particular religious group?
2. What exactly do you believe in?
3. If it was discovered that people are getting stamped with the number of the beast and a nine headed dragon appeared wearing crowns and mocking God, how would you react?
4. Is it possible that you are gay?
1. Well, I kinda have, but not activly, and only partially.
2. I do believe that some higher entinity, a sentient being, with great power. How ever, I'm not sure (how could I be?) exactly what its purpose is, or what how great its power is. I am how ever absoloutly certain that it exists. I have seen to many things not to. I also believe that a lot of the bible and other religions are right, but since they are contradicting, not all that all of them says can be true.
What I guess about this being is that it is at least several gods, or one god that for some reason shows himself in different ways. And resently doesn't show much at all, or simply doesn't want the attention. How ever, I'm sure that he/they do things at all times. Grants wishes for example, but often in discreet ways. I don't believe that he is all powerful, or all caring, or all knowing. I think I covered part of it, ask a question and I'll answer
3. Yep! I maybe they have a god/gods of their own!
4. I guess. I haven't fallen in love with any guys though. But you can never be sure!
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posted February 23, 2010 09:41 PM |
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1. Because I do not believe in what they say. At all. That doesn't mean that I think everything in the Big Bang theory is a 100% correct. After all, it is a theory.
2. I tend to believe in things that have scientific notions but it depends a lot on what it is about. For instance, I am completly sold on evolution (I don't even think that's considered a theory anymore).
3. Then that religion should be forced to change by the government. You can create a religion as long as it doesn't break against your countries laws. Religion should never be given an advantage over the law and laws should be based on scientific notions and studies.
4. Nah, don't think so. But everything is possible.  It's just nice to fool with people here since there isn't an official sarcasm smiley yet. Though I have no idea what people have against homosexual people etc. That's beyond me.
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posted February 23, 2010 10:05 PM |
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How can a genderless being have a sexuality at all?
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posted February 23, 2010 10:17 PM |
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You mean, god created genders and sexuality without having a clue what that was?
Might explain a couple of things, but I'm afraid, a being like god could "test-wear" gender/sexuality whenever he/she/it wanted.
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Shares
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posted February 23, 2010 10:45 PM |
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If god (yet again the christian one) was born as Jesus once, wouldn't that almost imply that he have/will or at least could do it several times? Both as male and female. And as a platipus.
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Elodin
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posted February 24, 2010 04:28 AM |
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You mean, god created genders and sexuality without having a clue what that was?
Might explain a couple of things, but I'm afraid, a being like god could "test-wear" gender/sexuality whenever he/she/it wanted.
So you are claiming a watchmaker has to be a watch before he can understand how watches work  
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If god (yet again the christian one) was born as Jesus once, wouldn't that almost imply that he have/will or at least could do it several times? Both as male and female. And as a platipus.
While it would nave been in the realm of possibility for God to do so there is no reason to think that he did so. God began to exist as the man Jesus Christ for specific purposes. Jesus is the human manifestation of God.
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posted February 24, 2010 05:19 AM |
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So you are claiming a watchmaker has to be a watch before he can understand how watches work
Just a note, and I will go away again. This implies (with common sense reasoning) that you accept the "fact" that watches know how they work .... 
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DagothGares
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posted February 24, 2010 07:06 AM |
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2. What exactly do you believe in?
I like Schopenhauer a lot.
"This world, a hell."
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posted February 24, 2010 08:07 AM |
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I suppose, I'm more the active type because when it comes to good aphorisms, I have to say I currently like this one very much:
"Life being what it is, one dreams of revenge." - Paul Gauguin
I think, Gauguin deserves a qp for that one.
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posted February 24, 2010 12:03 PM |
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I think, Gauguin deserves a qp for that one.
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posted February 24, 2010 02:31 PM |
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Speaking of aphorisms... My favorite is "If there were no God, it would be necessary to invent him." by Voltaire.
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posted February 24, 2010 03:31 PM |
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You've got some tense issues, there, Doomforge. Let me help you fix it.
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My favorite is "IfSince there werewas no God, it would bewas necessary to invent him." by VoltaireCorribus.
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posted February 25, 2010 01:51 PM |
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Looks like Elodin gave up the ghost?
No, I've just been rather busy of late.
Welcome back!
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posted March 03, 2010 01:02 AM |
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I've discovered something amazing!
The Bible etc actually says that there are more gods then "God/Allah/Yahweh".
Because in one of the books there are two stone things with rules on them. And the first rule, a law, actually says that it is forbidden to "worship other gods then God".
So the Bible does say that there are other gods, doesn't it? Once again it's contracting itself I guess?
And you dont write rules or laws based on fiction, right?
So the Bible says that there are more gods then God?
But God is also commonly refered to as a male.
Father, son etc. So if you believe in the Bible, shouldnt you believe that God is a male and as such part of a speices?
And does God take sides?
I'm thinking of zomg evul americans here and when the president always says "God bless America" after every major descision.
Does this mean that they want God to take a side? Have an opinion?
I have a lot of think about, plus philosophies for my own (profit... but don't note that xD) religion. Good night.
Divina comedia.
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posted March 03, 2010 01:54 AM |
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Well, first of, I yet again have to point out that any amount of information can get corrupt by translation. Maybe not the hebrew one, but certainly the swedish one may be very (translation from hebrew to latin to swedish, and then modernized two times that I remember!). So in hebrew it might be "There's one god".
Secondly, I yet again have to point out that implication does NOT (I'll repeat "not" here: NOT ) equal equivalence! The text your talking IMPLIES that there MAY be other gods. That does NOT mean that there actually are!
Sorry for being overly clear, but people seem to forget this every second post or something.
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posted March 03, 2010 02:56 PM |
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Or, you know, it could just mean that there are other "false" gods that people believe in?
As for 'father' and such...
...as far as I know, in english at least (not ancient hebrew), there's no word for a genderless parent.
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posted March 03, 2010 03:57 PM |
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Or, you know, it could just mean that there are other "false" gods that people believe in?
As for 'father' and such...
...as far as I know, in english at least (not ancient hebrew), there's no word for a genderless parent.
well there is....
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