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"The United States has more Muslim blood on its hands than Al Qaeda has on its hands of innocent non-Muslims" is an accurate statement

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It is sad that some people are Americaphobic. I have located an article that discusses both Americaphobia and the ground zero mosque.

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[...]So let’s call it what it is –- jihad. An out-and-out pro-Islamist assault on American values. In a term they might understand, it’s Americaphobia.

And it’s failing miserably.[...]

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And even that poll question has more spin than the top in the movie “Inception.” Here it is: “Overall, do you favor or oppose the building of the Muslim community center and mosque near where the World Trade Center stood?" That certainly embraces the media viewpoint – however inaccurate – that it’s more “community center” than mosque.

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The unseen hand of journalism manipulating American democracy is no longer unseen

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What is sad is that non-radical Muslims are bullied by their radical "brothers" at home into keeping their mouths shut when they try to make a difference.

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@El:

People that are exceptionally aggravated with modern affairs are the most likely to watch the news. FOX is soaring right now because there is a democrat president and democrat-majority Congress. The so-called liberal outlets were more popular while Bush was in office for the same reason.

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The Iman for this mosque is a despised figure among jingoists such as yourself because he convicts your guilty stances. "The United States has more Muslim blood on its hands than Al Qaeda has on its hands of innocent non-Muslims" is an accurate statement, but because you dislike it, you label the Imam as dangerous, even though he at no point praised Al Qaeda or has shown any involvement with them. He is not a criminal. He's just a guy executing his right to talk.

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"Jihad"
A hard-radical prince who wanted to hurt the US govt. called it something that may not get his ass(and beard) burned at home.

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My view is that the Muslims themselves should make much more effort in policing themselves. If they don't want all the negative PR they should get more serious and do something about it.

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America has shed her blood to defend Muslims on a number of occasions.

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Americans have given thousands of their youngest, best and brightest in combat to save Muslims. This provides a number of important counterarguments to anti-American radicals who ground their rhetoric in the religion of Islam.


1. The world recently commemorated the inexcusable 15th anniversary of Srebrenica, where U.N. forces allowed 8,000 Muslim men to be massacred. In the 1995 military intervention in Yugoslavia, the United States lead a NATO military coalition, against the wishes of the United Nations, to rescue a Muslim minority from ethnic extermination by Serbian President Milosevic. The extermination was typified by the U.N.'s failed defense of Muslims at Srebrenica. There was no member of the intervening coalition from a Middle East Islamic nation. Today, that minority enjoys a new sovereign state created for their benefit by the United States -- Kosovo.  


2. The United States, in its first war with the government of Iraq in 1991, liberated the 2.5  million Muslims of Kuwait. Since that time, Kuwait has consequently adopted a greater measure of political freedom, including the right of women to vote. Saddam Hussein was by his own political definitions a secular Baathist dedicated to oppressing and suppressing Muslims in his own country and in Kuwait when he conquered it in 1991. The United States ended his rule of Kuwait and established humanitarian no-fly zones over Northern Iraq and Southern Iraq to protect Muslim dissidents in those regions.  


3. In the second war with the anti-Muslim government of Saddam Hussein, the United States lost more than 4,000 men and women combating former Baathist radicals and al-Qaeda radicals in the country. Even the viciously anti-American Lancet report acknowledged that more than 75% of the civilian deaths in Iraq during the war were directed by anti-American forces against Muslims. The relative peace that has returned to Iraq since 2006 primarily benefits human life in Muslim communities of Iraq.  


4. The Iraq war of 2003 ended the deadliest military rivalry ever fought since the end of World War II -- the Iran/Iraq war. That war, fought during the 1980s, killed more than one million Muslims, utilizing chemical weapons, forced conscription of teenage males, and an array of grotesque inhumanities that never garnered any major "antiwar" movements in Europe or the United States. The ethically pretentious antiwar movement sat on its hands during the epic annihilation which primarily victimized Muslims.


5. Whatever one thinks of the oil trade, it is definitively the largest transfer of wealth in human history from affluent societies to impoverished societies. Since at least 1973, roughly one trillion dollars has been transferred annually from the economies of Japan, the U.S., Europe, and China to the Middle Eastern oil-producing states. In many instances, the United States imposed embargoes in defense of human rights for Muslims in places such as Iran and Iraq -- increasing the cost and limiting the consumption of such imports to the U.S. Many of those oil-producing states have chosen to use that wealth inappropriately, but the oil can hardly be argued to be "stolen" or "imperial American acquisitions."


6. The U.S.-led war in Afghanistan brought to an end the inhumane rule of the Taliban for more than 20 million Muslims who live there. The Taliban constituted one of the most misogynist governments in human history. Delighting in public executions at soccer stadiums where family members were compelled to discharge AK-47s in the skulls of "adulterers," this government murdered Muslim women in order to create its own despicable spectacle of governance by terror. Today, those marginalized and dissident members of the Taliban ride about on motorcycles throwing acid in the faces of liberated schoolgirls across the Afghan countryside in hopes of returning to power.  


7. In 2005, Indonesia, the largest Muslim country in the world, populated by more than 200 million adherents, was struck by a deadly tsunami, which killed more than 150,000 people. The theological center of Islam -- Saudi Arabia -- provided a paltry ten million dollars in aid for victims. But Indonesia was struck by another tsunami soon after: a tidal wave of charitable giving from the U.S. The United States government provided almost one billion dollars in aid. Private charitable giving by private individual Americans provided another $800 million.  


8. More than $370 billion in remittances is provided annually by the United States economy to the world. Many billions of these dollars flow to countries such as Kuwait, Lebanon, and Iran. These funds benefit Muslim communities in these countries. Remittances are funds earned in the United States by family members but sent back to communities in their host country.


9. The United States does provide demonstrable religious freedom unlike any other place in the world. While European governments tightly regulate what is recognized as a legitimate religion, the United States does in fact allow the free exercise of religion -- including millions of Muslims. In sharp contrast, converts from Islam in Muslim nations such as Saudi Arabia face death sentences for a well-known crime called "apostasy."  


10. The U.S. war on terrorism destroys radicals who have as their first and most significant victims Muslims who disagree with their violent supremacist interpretations of Islam. When young girls are murdered by these radicals all around the world in the form of "honor" killings, it is rarely non-Muslims who are killed. These are Muslim women dying at the hands of these bizarre misogynists. The terrorists disproportionately kill Muslims. This is why in Iraq, hatred of al-Qaeda is higher than it is in the United States. Iraqis witness on a daily basis the peculiar logic of bombings targeted at marketplaces where Muslims shop with their families. It is practices like these that are turning Muslims against groups such as al-Qaeda, Hezbollah, and Hamas.    

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Well, I'm not welcome here

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Well, I'm not welcome here

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They're not.

And who gives a crap what Al-Quida thinks. Screw 'em.

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Uh oh. The constitution says otherwise. Aren't the US of A supposed to be the land of religious freedom?

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and what would civil be to you, Binabik? give up islam?

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about the funeral, yes, it would be very disrespectful to do something like this when the people are actually being put in the ground. yes, to take a dump on the coffin would be stupid and rude and disrespectful. but this is ten years after it, nowhere near where any of them died (landing gear is not a person) and is rolling over so as not to creat a controversy.

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