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In fact some have thought about it and suggested it - myself even, as part of an initiative to not have this immediately, but it's no good: since Inferno Magic can creep just as well as Haven, it would make no difference, except making things more difficult for all Might heroes.

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To return to the topic of factions with Healers vs. factions without. Have you guys considered the implications if only the upgraded version of the unit could resurrect? For instance, Sisters could still have the ability to Heal (regain max HP, remove negative effects, similar to H5 Paladin Lay Hands), but only the Vestal could resurrect units?

In this way, you could still have access to early resurrection, but it would need a deeper level of devotion - no longer could you just choose a Magic hero (or Might, if you choose to switch armies) and buy a secondary hero to supplement your troops - you'd also have to build the dwelling and upgraded dwelling, which could (and should reasonably, since this is the magic troup of that level) be expensive in terms of Crystal?

Thus, early Resurrection would still be an option, but at least it would come at a cost, in that it works against other tactics like early Champions. Wouldn't that be desirable?

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I find this a bit different from criticism of the creature pool. I think it is more a criticism of town/dwelling conversion. I may be mistaken, but my understanding of people's concerns with the creature pool were the easy availability of the cumulative production of one's towns at any single town, and the consequences of that.

It sounds to me like in other Heroes games it was a huge drag to get a town that was not the same as yours. Conversion gets rid of that drag.  I think it comes down to that many people interpret certain things as "strategic" or "interesting" that, personally, I interpret as "annoying" or "pointlessly difficult."


This strikes me as falling into the idealistic divide above. To me, a player has tons of strategic choices every turn no matter what. Where to go, what to do, what creeps to fight, what mines to grab, what buildings to build, what units to put where, what skills to take, etc. etc. Creating "choices" by making logistics a nightmare is undesirable, in my opinion.

I don't have an issue with complexity, I just find that certain logistical issues are not fun and only serve to bog down the game. To me, the game should be about collecting cool stuff and fighting things with your sweet army. Using Heroes 5 as an example, I wasn't a fan of playing remotely optimally involving micromanaging the weekly runaround to collect Wee Folk and Windmills and somehow getting Caravan creatures upgraded and to my main/secondary since they would make it to the castle a day or two later than the rest of my creatures...

I know a lot of the die hards think "But that IS Heroes. That's what Heroes is about!" and I understand that traditional mentality. But, as someone who is relatively new to the franchise, those things stuck out to me immediately as pointless and annoying issues, not strategically positive facets of gameplay.

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Another thing that bothers me very much are the stupid names of the secondary skills. DIPLOMACY has been DIPLOMACY since day one, but now it has been renamed to DIPLOMAT! Why in the world??? The same goes for a number of other skills, like PATHFINDER. Why have they renamed the skills from the old skill-names to personal quialities-names? It's sluggish and stupid. There's more to it - some of the names have mysteriously remained as the old ones - eg. LOGISTICS, not LOGISTIC and COUNTERSTRIKE, not COUNTERSTRIKER. Having two patterns of naming secondary skills is totally beyond me.

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Which suggests that Heroes isn't really for you, because from the way you describe it, you're after a RPG, which heroes isn't.

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The irony is with the new tier system, if they had just made it two instead of one rare ressources, they could pretty much have avoided this. With 3 buildings on each tier, one could have heavy demand on ressource 1, the other ressource 2, and the third primarily Wood/Ore. That would at least mean a difference in ressource demand between the three.

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For example, I think the entire concept of slave/caravan heroes is kind of ludicrous. I mean, they're described as a hero and yet many of them are simply pack mules, be it for gathering resources, or holding certain artifacts, or moving units from point A to point B. They're fine, I don't really have a problem with them, I don't necessarily think they should be removed, but I find the whole concept a bit unfortunate.

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That's why I love, for example, the mine sabotaging skills available in Heroes 6. At least on some level, extra heroes that aren't really equipped for battle can contribute to the war effort in another, positive (as opposed to passive or logistical) way. I think that feature is fantastic.

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Having plenty of secondary heroes allowed two tactics for expansion, creeping and rushing, but now there's a limit you can only really creep, so that's one more choice they've removed.

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