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Thread: EMPIRE of the WORLD IV, play This thread is 97 pages long: 1 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 ... 82 83 84 85 86 ... 90 97 · «PREV / NEXT»
Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted April 03, 2013 08:30 AM
Edited by Salamandre at 08:31, 03 Apr 2013.

No, both having orb or all skills changes automatically the reward to devils, I thought mithril is a bit of too much and will lead to such immoral ideas.
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OvidiuG
OvidiuG


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posted April 03, 2013 10:42 AM

So getting closer to Labyrinth part and you said is doable in one day, if you buy movement points at Tower.

For MoS special level up 7?, max cap @ royal stables, Stables, Boots and gloves. how much he moves? Can I check that?

How much more will I need to buy the necessary movement points? I wanna prepare with gold or see if I have a chance to getting so much .

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Salamandre
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posted April 03, 2013 10:54 AM
Edited by Salamandre at 11:02, 03 Apr 2013.

All I know is that labyrinth takes <>75k movement points, no matter the faction. So check how many movement points you have before buying, buy up to 75k (you can't more anyway, it will refuse) then teleport to stronghold and start the labyrinth. As you don't have the latest map, avoid to pick treasures chests other than those blocking path, looks like game crashes if some of them are picked.

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For MoS special level up 7?, max cap @ royal stables, Stables, Boots and gloves. how much he moves? Can I check that?


You never used that? It is the horse icon, right-click on it to know your movement points left.

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OvidiuG
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posted April 03, 2013 11:34 AM

nope . I didn't know that, will check.

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Warmonger
Warmonger


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posted April 03, 2013 07:07 PM
Edited by Warmonger at 19:07, 03 Apr 2013.

I'm here to report progress!



This week was a week of fire orbs, but I managed to get the other with Loynis and gave it to Commodus, who hit 150 battles. Just got huge boost in manpower, now have more devils than I can afford

Dace beaten. He was quie hard, but after few trials I found the pattern.

Later this week, Zubin.



Next day, Ignatius



This is getting crazy.

But next comes Daremyth and her hundreds of Titans... no idea how to stop them. Certainly will need to upgrade Efreets, but she still always was hard.
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OvidiuG
OvidiuG


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posted April 03, 2013 07:12 PM

Valery,

Could you please check this save? My demons don't attack twice for some strange reason. They Ignore Combo bonus.

Save

Before that I've put em in town by dragging the stack in a town Garrison then they disappeared, I reloaded, moved hero portrait up and down in castle which gets the stack in hero army, but when I try to move em left right in army slots, they go negative number and freeze in slot, I can't move em around, double click or anything.

I played around managed to have em full experience (Ace level) but now they don't attack twice. Is against Lorelei , maybe something "special happens on that fight and they bug, or simply they bugged when I moved em around.

My tactic there is to Dispel dragon's fire shield, anti magic demons , attack on 1st move and return behind efreet protection , but they won't have a second move.
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OvidiuG
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posted April 03, 2013 07:13 PM

Nice progress Warmonger !
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Salamandre
Salamandre


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posted April 03, 2013 07:15 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 19:19, 03 Apr 2013.

I think I know what is going without looking into: last stack never gets double move because it interferes with next AI stack, no fix for this. Use a stack of efreets as last stack and all fine.

About demons moving around, read my previous post about: I think 3DO never thought we will have more than 32k creatures or they simply messed the code, to move them use the slide bar, like when you move 5 units, then move all. Between heroes, move them using split custom button which I added.

If they lose experience and they will, right click on the stack when in hero screen, you will get confirmation of experience being restored. There is no other way.


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OvidiuG
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posted April 03, 2013 07:18 PM

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use a stack of efreets as last stack
means get demons speed over efreets
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Salamandre
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posted April 03, 2013 07:21 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 19:26, 03 Apr 2013.

Yes, but for Lorelei devils are enough, frenzy, shield then resurrect, once dragons are reduced  the ratio is for you, she is easy, leave the demons in the mine nearby, by using slide bar of course.

I will add a hint which will pop up the first time you open hero screen and there are more than 30k demons, explaining how to deal with. This info is also in the read me.
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OvidiuG
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posted April 03, 2013 07:35 PM

I already knew most of this, I've put em in town and thought they bugged when I saw they don't attack twice. Having em makes the fight quicker. I remember I used em when I played MoW.

Thanks.
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Salamandre
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posted April 03, 2013 07:40 PM
Edited by Salamandre at 20:33, 03 Apr 2013.

Yeah sorry, initially I wanted this fight for devils only, thus I gave Lorelei and Armageddon power 2 millions or something like that, which will obliterate any army not immune. Is not so long if frenzied.

Now that you point it out, I should remove ballistic for that fight so she always move before we could cast antimagic (I always forget this cheat-kinda)

The script detects how many demons you have in army, and will show this the first time more than 25000 demons are detected. Used red so he does not close it in a hurry like regular message. Is this enough clear or still not?


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OvidiuG
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posted April 03, 2013 08:36 PM

Pink wall of text hit you for 2 million damage, you die!


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Salamandre
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posted April 03, 2013 08:38 PM

Ok changed to pure red.
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Voit_Turyv
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posted April 03, 2013 09:02 PM

This map looks really difficult. I mean, how come there are people who are willing to play such a hard map? I'm considering playing it myself but all these scripts and thousands of creatures do create an impression that this map was made for the very HoMM3 veterans and is completely typical-gamer-unfriendly.

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Salamandre
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posted April 03, 2013 09:05 PM

Not really, there is one easy faction inside, 2 others moderate and one a bit harder yes. Have the choice.
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Draker
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posted April 03, 2013 09:07 PM

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This map looks really difficult. I mean, how come there are people who are willing to play such a hard map? I'm considering playing it myself but all these scripts and thousands of creatures do create an impression that this map was made for the very HoMM3 veterans and is completely typical-gamer-unfriendly.


Try it at least. You might learn some new amazing battle tactics.

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Voit_Turyv
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posted April 03, 2013 09:10 PM
Edited by Voit_Turyv at 21:36, 03 Apr 2013.

Let me get this straight: some players like me are not used to see thousands of resources in their treasury and hundreds of devils in their army... let alone hundreds of enemies at once or a gargantuan amount of hitpoints.
Nevertheless, I will try the map when I have more time, finals are coming.

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Warmonger
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posted April 03, 2013 09:15 PM
Edited by Warmonger at 21:15, 03 Apr 2013.

Believe me, it is so cool when you see your army growing each week by huge amount

But the map is hard. It also imposes time limits so you're not free to wander all around for months, need to advance as fast as possible.
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Salamandre
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posted April 03, 2013 09:19 PM

Yeah very hard, says the one who beat Ajit with 130 devils, which I never did.
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