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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted January 23, 2015 06:53 PM |
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So un-upgraded skeletons have bigger shield than the upgrade...Those look much better than the upgrade, why they had to go so over the top
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Danny
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posted January 23, 2015 06:56 PM |
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Storm-Giant said:
But repeating the same three Elites...such disappointment
Academy also repeats the same elites from its last incarnation in H5. And Sylvan does not have that many changes either...
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supertommy
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posted January 23, 2015 06:57 PM |
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Danny said:
Academy also repeats the same elites from its last incarnation in H5. And Sylvan does not have that many changes either...
Fair enough, but at least they have new 3D-models.
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Danny
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posted January 23, 2015 06:59 PM |
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Kimarous said:
Huh. I'm legitimately surprised that the Lamasu is returning. I was absolutely certain that they'd have run out of Lamasu corpses by the end of the Second Eclipse, or at least the Third. Huh... well, now I just feel silly.
Was this ever confirmed? Many have been saying this but I thought it was nothing more than speculation about changing units. Same goes for Fate Spinner but that lives on through the Spider unit anyway.
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted January 23, 2015 07:03 PM |
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Except Academy units have new models, and more importantly, they look great.
Look at H7 Haven to see how to get things done. It also repeats a lot of units but it looks so much better.
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supertommy
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posted January 23, 2015 07:12 PM |
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Storm-Giant said:
So un-upgraded skeletons have bigger shield than the upgrade...Those look much better than the upgrade, why they had to go so over the top
Agreed. The non-upgraded have battered armor and shield, they've seen combat and it gives them a more darker look to a skeleton. The upgraded one looks like it's been at the shop buying a fancy sword and shield with gems on it, a fashion helmet. I'm actually very fine with the non-upgraded, it look terrifying.
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Storm-Giant
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
On the Other Side!
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posted January 23, 2015 07:15 PM |
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Agreed 
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Danny
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posted January 23, 2015 07:23 PM |
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Academy units have new models because they appeared in a game 9 years ago, not 3 and a half...
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LizardWarrior
Honorable
Legendary Hero
the reckoning is at hand
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posted January 23, 2015 07:35 PM |
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Haven appeared in h6, yet they still got new models: justicar, dire wolf, chaplain, sword german dude, even legionnaire, seraph and crossbowman got their models reworked (if not totally new)
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Sandro400
Promising
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Shadow of Death
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posted January 23, 2015 07:37 PM |
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Danny said:
Academy units have new models because they appeared in a game 9 years ago, not 3 and a half...
Actually, they should have appeared in H6 as well. Some talented people found in map editor traces of Academy faction. I remember for sure it was discussed here too.
So maybe that Academy isn't "completely" new...
Sylvan, on the other hand, should be all brand new.
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War-overlord
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
Presidente of Isla del Tropico
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posted January 23, 2015 07:39 PM |
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Sandro400 said:
Actually, they should have appeared in H6 as well. Some talented people found in map editor traces of Academy faction. I remember for sure it was discussed here too.
So maybe that Academy isn't "completely" new...
Sylvan, on the other hand, should be all brand new.
Only people on the project know at what stage in the development that got scrapped.
And given the fact that they reused H5 Models in M&MX, I'd say before they made the academy models.
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Avonu
Responsible
Supreme Hero
Embracing light and darkness
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posted January 23, 2015 07:40 PM |
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Sandro400 said:
Actually, they should have appeared in H6 as well. Some talented people found in map editor traces of Academy faction. I remember for sure it was discussed here too.
So maybe that Academy isn't "completely" new...
Sylvan, on the other hand, should be all brand new.
IIRC Puppetworks indeed created some Academy models (Rakshasa?) for HoMM6... but after scrapping whole faction there was one problem with using them... money (as models were not in fact Ubisoft's propety).
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Kimarous
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posted January 23, 2015 07:47 PM |
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Danny said:
Kimarous said:
Huh. I'm legitimately surprised that the Lamasu is returning. I was absolutely certain that they'd have run out of Lamasu corpses by the end of the Second Eclipse, or at least the Third. Huh... well, now I just feel silly.
Was this ever confirmed? Many have been saying this but I thought it was nothing more than speculation about changing units. Same goes for Fate Spinner but that lives on through the Spider unit anyway.
Never confirmed, but it seemed like a logical conclusion, given the lore of these creatures. *shrug* Turns out we were wrong.
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Sandro400
Promising
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Shadow of Death
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posted January 23, 2015 08:01 PM |
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War-overlord said:
Only people on the project know at what stage in the development that got scrapped.
And given the fact that they reused H5 Models in M&MX, I'd say before they made the academy models.
True, but there is a room for speculations
Avonu said:
IIRC Puppetworks indeed created some Academy models (Rakshasa?) for HoMM6... but after scrapping whole faction there was one problem with using them... money (as models were not in fact Ubisoft's propety).
I will not be surprised if that's the case. Maybe that's why they used old Academy models in Legacy.
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Kronos1000
Promising
Supreme Hero
Fryslân Boppe
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posted January 23, 2015 08:02 PM |
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Heroes 6 Lich biography:
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Higher ranking Necromancers are given a life-prolonging elixir that is milked from the venom of the Namtarus, Asha’s sacred spider spirits, that they must mix with their food.This “treatment” turns them into Asakkus, or “Liches”, their bodies desiccated but now freed from the passions of the flesh.They keep aging however, until they ressemble little more than walking mummies.The venom mixture also colors their entire eyes bright green.
I wish we could at least have these aged Liches. At least they would a lot more like, well, Liches.
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Hwær cwom maþþumgyfa? - 'The Wanderer'
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posted January 23, 2015 08:26 PM |
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Is it sad, that Academy, which is the faction I absolutely hated, and was always my number one hated faction, is now SUPERBLY MORE interesting and im actuallly thinking of playing a lot with them over Necropolis who's been in my top three for a decade?
That is how snowty this faction is. Pray to whatever god you believe in that they dont snow up Stronghold as well.
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Danny
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posted January 23, 2015 08:32 PM |
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Stormcaller said:
Is it sad, that Academy, which is the faction I absolutely hated, and was always my number one hated faction, is now SUPERBLY MORE interesting and im actuallly thinking of playing a lot with them over Necropolis who's been in my top three for a decade?
That is how snowty this faction is. Pray to whatever god you believe in that they dont snow up Stronghold as well.
Forgive me but I'm not following you, how can you turn around and hate a faction that is ESSENTIALLY THE SAME as when it was in your top 3? This is definitely a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation because if H7 Necropolis implemented some radical changes (i.e. female elemental units similar to Sanctuary) you would be saying the exact same thing.
Also, like I've said, Academy and Sylvan lineup are almost the same as their H5 counterparts, with 1 creature replaced (Cabir-Gremlin/Sun Deer-Unicorn) and 1 more added (Arcane Eagle & Dryad). In H6, Stronghold had the least amount of changes from H5 with basically the Harpy replacing Wyvern and the gender of 2 units swapped). Not to mention that Dungeon H7 is also a combination of H6 and H3 nostalgia with nod to H5. So either you accept it and play with the game when it is out, either you look for a different game...
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Stormcaller
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posted January 23, 2015 08:42 PM |
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This is not simply about same units. I dont mind if some older units are brought back. BUt what I do care about, is how those units are presented.
Take a look at this current Necropolis, and aside for Dread knight and spider, tell me it isnt the same snow from H6. Everything is glowing, everything is warcrafthis.
Take a look at the skeleton. Does that looks like a FODDER to you?
This isn't about how units looked in H5, or H3, but for the fact THEY ARE ENTIRELY THE SAME LIKE IN H6. Nothing but reused, recoloured models.
Also, Grim reaper is a rip off from Diablo games and has a horrible, cliche name.
And yes, i will play this game. I just wont get anywhere near this faction.
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Danny
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posted January 23, 2015 08:48 PM |
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Still not following, if it's exactly the same thing, why is it bad? How many fans want a H3 remake, or just the swamp Fortress return? The devs do something like that and y'all freak out, while 4 years ago "why so many faction/female units, I want my H3 random monsters back" was the thing to say...
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LizardWarrior
Honorable
Legendary Hero
the reckoning is at hand
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posted January 23, 2015 08:49 PM |
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Haven't you seen that the H3 remake isn't as welcomed as expected? 
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