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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted February 15, 2016 02:48 PM |
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Elvin said:
Out of curiosity, what did happen? Other than not including armageddon's blade and shadow of death that is.
I guess you can find most answers HERE..
tl;dr: it got considered as a sloppy job for quick cash grab, not taking community into account one more time etc, the usual Ubifail scenario. 
Still, got better reception than h7.
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The_green_drag
Supreme Hero
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posted February 15, 2016 03:00 PM |
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If they made a h4 remake that didn't include any expansions, I'd enjoy that one too.
It does suck playing as fortress though without the dragonfly applying weakness, and the weak lizard warriors...
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted February 15, 2016 03:11 PM |
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Dood, at this time and year, Complete edition is not complete enough.
Just the same, I wouldn't really see the point with making a H4 remake if some things are not getting corrected, don't forget H4 is an unfinished product, IIRC there was something like 2 programmers left for it in the end.
I own the UbiH3 remake, as Arnaud offered us copies at the fanday, but never installed it, as just like h7 it would feel like a downgrade to what already exists.
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted February 15, 2016 04:45 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 16:47, 15 Feb 2016.
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About H7 performance issues: Funny thing is that from what I recall they made it on Unreal engine. Probably the most well known ready-to-use game engine. An engine that is so much worked out already, that even self-thaught people who work on it for non-profit uses do a better job with it. In my company when a program has this many performance issues, we call it a "f*ck up" which needs to be either left alone, or rewritten from scratch...
About H4 HD remake: if they had at least the smallest penitence in them, they would ask people from the Equilibris mod to help them make it a better iteration...
BTW It would be nice if the H7s cycle ended already. And of course, if Limbic would be "discharged" from the franchise. I can't wait for all those juicy "behind-the-scenes" interviews with them, "Erwin was a tyrant blah blah...", "They've limited our options" etc. And then we will all take pity on them...
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The_green_drag
Supreme Hero
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posted February 15, 2016 04:54 PM |
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I've actually never had any performance issues on my computer  
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Articun
Supreme Hero
As i dream, so shall it be!
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posted February 15, 2016 04:57 PM |
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I'd very much prefer it would be Heroes IV remastered rather than HD edition, even if it means using the same engine as back then back correcting things that need correcting.
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted February 15, 2016 05:08 PM |
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blob2 said:
About H4 HD remake: if they had at least the smallest penitence in them, they would ask people from the Equilibris mod to help them make it a better iteration...
They didn't contact h3 modders and dismissed QAI, why would they contact h4 modders.
The_green_drag said:
I've actually never had any performance issues on my computer
Share your hardware info, people having the same will know they'll have a chance to get the game running then.
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Zeki
Supreme Hero
sup
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posted February 15, 2016 06:43 PM |
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The_green_drag said:
I've actually never had any performance issues on my computer
How'd you do that? Did you buy one of the dev's PC or what? xD Because it feels like the game runs fine on roughly 5% of the systems out there..
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Maurice
Hero of Order
Part of the furniture
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posted February 15, 2016 07:06 PM |
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Edited by Maurice at 19:07, 15 Feb 2016.
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Aside from the crashes and the memory leaks, I didn't really suffer performance issues either, as far as I can recall. Graphics all turned up fairly high. My system has an i7 Intel Pentium chip, 8 GB memory and a GTX670 video card, running under Windows 7.
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The last Reasonable Steward of Good Game Design and a Responsible Hero of HC. - Verriker
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blob2
Undefeatable Hero
Blob-Ohmos the Second
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posted February 15, 2016 07:40 PM |
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Edited by blob2 at 19:46, 15 Feb 2016.
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Galaad said:
blob2 said:
About H4 HD remake: if they had at least the smallest penitence in them, they would ask people from the Equilibris mod to help them make it a better iteration...
They didn't contact h3 modders and dismissed QAI, why would they contact h4 modders.
Like I said if 
Yeah if pigs will fly... oh wait, they already fly on this board:
verriker said:
JollyJoker said:
Limbic and Ubisoft
JollyJoker said:
apology
JollyJoker said:
decency
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Brukernavn
Hero of Order
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posted February 16, 2016 02:18 PM |
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AoE 2 HD edition had it's shortcomings as well, but at least they updated the AI, included the latest fan made mod and keep adding new content to the game. H3 HD edition didn't even have all the official content, let alone fan made additions. Since HoMM turned into MMH cheap shortcuts seem to be made in every possible direction.
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Antalyan
Promising
Supreme Hero
H7 Forever
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posted February 16, 2016 05:08 PM |
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Edited by Antalyan at 17:11, 16 Feb 2016.
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I think this game deserves the second chance, at the latest after its suppport ends. But it ofc depends on your personal tastes.
If you were able to enjoy H5 very much and somehow liked H6 (even it had many dark points), H7 could take you too, because of great and not much repetitive campaigns and good stories, many well known mechanics, skill system which is at least for the first time you play the game quite interesting (thanks to racial skills) and great flanking system. Sure there are many problems left and the technical quality and Ubi's behaviour to fans is terrible but in final it should not deter you from from enjoying H7.
If you are still happy to play the old 2D original Heroes games more than the newer ones, I don't think H7 has much to offer - but I guess no other game than H3 exact copy with very little improvements would have a chance to amaze you. I have for example never fully understood why certain people liked the original campaigns - usually only "kill'em all ones" with flat ansd simple stories more than Ubi ones and they even still enjoy them more...
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Important H7 tips & tricks
H7 Community Patch (UCP)
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OmegaDestroyer
Hero of Order
Fox or Chicken?
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posted February 16, 2016 05:32 PM |
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There are simply way too many other great games for me to consider wasting $50 on Heroes 7.
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The giant has awakened
You drink my blood and drown
Wrath and raving I will not stop
You'll never take me down
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Galaad
Hero of Order
Li mort as morz, li vif as vis
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posted February 16, 2016 05:59 PM |
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Edited by Galaad at 18:00, 16 Feb 2016.
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great and not much repetitive campaigns and good stories
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many well known mechanics, skill system which is at least for the first time you play the game quite interesting (thanks to racial skills)
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great flanking system.
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verriker
Honorable
Legendary Hero
We don't need another 'eroes
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posted February 16, 2016 06:00 PM |
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Farmer of Hate was the second chance,
Tribes of the East was the third chance, (but let's let them away with this one and call it satisfactory,)
Heroes 6 was the third chance,
DLC adventure packs were the fourth chance,
50 Shades of Elves was the fifth chance,
Heroes 7 was the sixth chance,
and you are expecting me to give them a seventh chance?
lol
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted February 16, 2016 06:08 PM |
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Seven dragons, seven chances.
..Grouching dragon, hidden chance? 
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Stevie
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted February 16, 2016 06:14 PM |
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Edited by Stevie at 18:14, 16 Feb 2016.
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Svartzorn
Known Hero
Dead struggling with death.
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posted February 16, 2016 06:16 PM |
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I think you're just trying pretty hard to like it since it's a new installment.
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frostymuaddib
Promising
Supreme Hero
育碧是白痴
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posted February 16, 2016 06:22 PM |
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Antalyan said:
I have for example never fully understood why certain people liked the original campaigns - usually only "kill'em all ones" with flat ansd simple stories more than Ubi ones and they even still enjoy them more...
From my point of view, I prefer original campaigns because each level of the campaign felt like turn based strategy game that Heroes is. H5 and H6 transformed campaigns into shallow rpgs. If I wanted to play a rpg, I would've played any other real rpg.
PLUS, stories in H5 were: Griffin Eternal, Griffin Undying, Asha uses all, For the blood, etc. In H6 they were boring and uninspired and a little bit cliche. I haven't played H7 tthough, so I can't speak for those campaigns.
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Antalyan
Promising
Supreme Hero
H7 Forever
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posted February 16, 2016 06:28 PM |
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Edited by Antalyan at 18:29, 16 Feb 2016.
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frostymuaddib said:
Antalyan said:
I have for example never fully understood why certain people liked the original campaigns - usually only "kill'em all ones" with flat ansd simple stories more than Ubi ones and they even still enjoy them more...
From my point of view, I prefer original campaigns because each level of the campaign felt like turn based strategy game that Heroes is. H5 and H6 transformed campaigns into shallow rpgs. If I wanted to play a rpg, I would've played any other real rpg.
H5+ Heroes added to turn-based strategy new possibilities. Don't like it? There are still the same kill'em all games in multiplayer os single game. And these rpg elements and 3D graphics are one of the main things which changed how much I like Heroes...
But I understand everyone's different.
galaad said:
Nice turtle 
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