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posted January 01, 2018 10:50 AM |
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Its sorta a penis messurement contest. By doing that he had showed that he picks a side , instead of just saying he did, and that if war becaoumes a nesscity we will not be afride to erase hamas out of face of existence. Sometimes force is the only way to defeat a bully by hitting him even harder then he so that he will rember not to do same ever ever again. That is why the law of death sentence to living terrorits have been suggested. Power of detture.
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posted January 01, 2018 01:25 PM |
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Right. Because "erasing X out of existence" has been working out so perfectly well, whether with US involvement or without.
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posted January 01, 2018 02:32 PM |
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How do you deal with a bully?
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posted January 01, 2018 02:54 PM |
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How come they are the bullies, you are the ones constantly expanding land by force since the 60's. They are the reactionaries, as twisted and delusional as their reaction's ideological channelling may be, they are on defense, not offense.
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posted January 02, 2018 08:49 AM |
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its not expending by force really, if they didn't declare war in the declartion of israel, and again in 67, where they LOST the territory, fair and sqaure... by a war THEY started in the first place...
imagine an adult giving you and me candy, same candy, but you push me and steal mine,calling your friends to beat me up, while i take out a stick and beat all your friends to a pulp with it i take my candy back. 10 years ago you try again, this time i pull a gun and shoot your leg because you think i don't deserve the candy in the first place, and i need to make sure you stop doing it, so i break your leg, so you wont touch my candy, and what do you do? you cry to another adult that also gives you a gun, but im already trained with it, so i break your gun in kungfu styled martial art, and eat half of your candy and make sure you dont attack me again, ever. but every once and awhile you get all fused up and try too, and is angry for me beating you up... maybe you shouldnt try me in the first place?
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posted January 02, 2018 09:21 AM |
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The problem is there is only one candy and it was mine, then a nasty infidel man came and took the half with more chocolate from me and gave it to you. And when I tried to get it back you took more again. There's no way to justify Israel. I'll let you know that it doesn't mean I'm against Jews living in the Holy Land, just not the way they are, and surely as its masters.
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antipaladin
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posted January 02, 2018 09:27 AM |
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Thats where our opinions differ. Its also historic that jews ware there before so saying it was yours makes as much sence as saying algir velongs to morooco. Also infedil is suh a strong word coming from heathens )
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posted January 02, 2018 10:02 AM |
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This is the thing, when the Jews were on the way of God, you deserved that land, now that you have left that way, you don't deserve it anymore. But that's not a problem of who should live there, it's a problem of how people should live. The Jews as masters and the Arabs as slaves is not the way I see it to be honest.
And I'm not a heathen since I'm a believer, you are a heathen. It's a matter of definition.
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posted January 02, 2018 11:25 AM |
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And who decides who is on the way of God? Muslims because their religion is "the true one." Good luck with that argument on any international platform, official or not. It is additionaly ironic when historically your religion is a variation of theirs, not the other way around.
Also, remember how you were talking about hypocrisy, a good example of it would be to claim there is freedom of faith in Islam as an empty slogan and then find in yourself the authority to determine who deserves to live where and how depending on their beliefs. The more Muslims present such egomaniac theology as political arguments the more they will lose and justifiably.
And Muslims are not slaves in Israel, they can work, vote, they have their own political parties, even more than one. (Can you imagine a Jewish political party in any Arab country?) Claiming they are slaves is just baseless.
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posted January 02, 2018 11:46 AM |
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I enjoy this with popcorn pouring all around. Al Hazin is obviously a moderate muslim yet more you scratch over the surface, more it shows I am so damn right when I'm worried about our cultures mixing. Now artu you see why your intellectual constructs about Islam and its generational dilution in the west are disconnected from reality, and that's the case with the most moderate of them, imagine the radicalized.
Not that I disagree with Al Hazin, we both share a lot of convictions (not the ones on jews/Israel though), except that I won't go in your cultural area and tell you how to behave.
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posted January 02, 2018 11:53 AM |
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Edited by artu at 11:55, 02 Jan 2018.
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Actually, he wouldnt be considered moderate at all by the standards here. He is not the type of Muslim I told you about, the ones who dont put religion in the center of their lives and pray every once in a while in a funeral and so on. His politics is Islamist and he is devoted. Him being a nice person with a good sense of humor doesn't change that fact and as I told him also before, the only reason people dont react harsher to such non-sense is because, intelectually, he lives in a bubble where he cant know any better.
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posted January 02, 2018 12:13 PM |
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I meet people with this sort of views on a daily basis, since there are so many among us. Educated, funny, openly tolerant, curious ... until you come along sensible subjects (religion, immigration, racism, colonization, reasons of unemployment, personal responsibility) and then it rapidly slips and becomes very confrontational and not rationally debatable. From then, if you insist, you can even fear for your physical safety, the loss of control over emotional response is scary and it goes very fast.
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posted January 02, 2018 12:20 PM |
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Edited by artu at 12:21, 02 Jan 2018.
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Well Sal, with all respect to your anecdotal wisdom, living in Turkey, I'm guessing I happen to know more Muslims than you! Keep in mind that African countries which is the bulk of Muslim immigrtaion in France are the least developed ones and they had been colonies through out all history. And even the many variants of Islam from Indonesia to Kazakhistan is solid proof that it is not immune to social change.
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Salamandre
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posted January 02, 2018 12:26 PM |
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With all respect to your knowledge of muslims, arabo-muslims are a totally different matter than turks. Turks don't nourish their hate about west as they don't have that feeling, to start.
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posted January 02, 2018 12:29 PM |
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Let's assume that is true, that would mean the conflict you speak of is between Arabic nations and the West, which is not how you formulate it.
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posted January 02, 2018 12:37 PM |
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I didn't see or heard about any example of radicalized muslim of Turkish origins (at least in Europe) so I (and probably most of people around) automatically eliminates them from the equation. Also, the main reason Germany proposed itself to welcome >1 millions of refugees is mainly because they only had a Turkish immigration so they thought it will simply add numbers, not create new problems. I see they quickly changed their mind.
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posted January 02, 2018 12:41 PM |
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What about Pakistanis (which is basically Muslim Indian), Indonesians, Kazhaks, Persians, Mongols and so on?
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Salamandre
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posted January 02, 2018 12:48 PM |
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There is no such immigration in Europe. Our main immigration is Turkey, Tunisia, Morocco and Algeria. However, I know UK has an important Pakistani immigration and it looks to be a problem, at least from news reports.
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posted January 02, 2018 12:51 PM |
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Your forgot chechnians and suddanese abd azeri. Also sal evoiding touchy discussions because your afride , is yhe reason europe is plagued with fundomental islamism. When they will rape your wife/friend because she was a sexy heathen you will change your mind.
Alhazin your are a heretic then? Since my religin is more true then yours by your own logic?
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posted January 02, 2018 08:18 PM |
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Hahahahaha. 
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