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pandora
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posted December 15, 2005 07:24 PM

hehe... Doan is an okay player, he's not one of the worst - that's not what I was trying to say - but he in no way represents the very best of Canadian hockey. The talent pool is so big, and even if we do say that yes Doan is worthy of being on the team , there is just no way he should be a lock. At his level he could be replaced very easily, I find it irritating to see that he is given special attention where it's not merited.

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San Jose got Joe Thornton from Boston for Marco Sturm, Brad Stuart, and Wayne Primeau. That deal seems to favor San Jose. Boston should have at least gotten Marleau if they were going to give up Thornton. Your thoughts?


Well, the trade surprised me for sure... but salaries do become an issue I guess. I remember seeing Primeau in a few games in Pittsburgh where he impressed me though, he wasn't consistant, but he can be good - the potential is there at least

Ottawa still looks like the big contender to me, but you never know what's going to happen with injuries and all that...As a Leafs fan hockey's been a bit of an annoyance lately LOL That club needs to be restructured so bad *sigh*




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posted December 16, 2005 03:49 AM
Edited By: Twotone on 15 Dec 2005

As a Leafs fan hockey's been a bit of an annoyance lately LOL That club needs to be restructured so bad *sigh*

O'neill was a good pickup, but most of their best players are getting old.  I think they're still a playoff team, but they're probably out in the first round.  I think they'll finish somewhere between 6th and 9th in the East.  

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posted December 17, 2005 01:06 AM

The problem though, is that they just don't seem to have any fire - they need some spark. The team just seems content to be where they are, they're not reaching for anything. To be honest, I think they need a new coach. I'm not saying that to take anything away from Pat Quinn, but he seems perfectly content with the way they're going, and the simple fact is they don't seem to be going anywhere.
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posted December 19, 2005 06:09 PM

Stars shut out the Sens in Ottawa.  How often does that happen?

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posted December 21, 2005 04:16 AM

Kovalev.....da man
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posted December 21, 2005 08:25 PM

I watched the Mtrl game yesterday.

I got mad at the announcers.

Seriously, it would of been a good game if they where a little more neutral. I tried to flip channels to listen to it in english but could not find a channel so I sticked to French.

To bad Ottawa doesn't have their own channel yet. Comes with renown I assume...
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posted December 21, 2005 08:30 PM
Edited by Shiva on 21 Dec 2005

It was on Sportsnet in the Montreal area.
Was it blacked out in Ottawa? I flipped
between RDS and Sportsnet. Surely it can't
be as biased as CBC and the Leafs.
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posted December 21, 2005 08:34 PM

I try not to watch the leafs!


But I don't know, I couldn't get it anywhere else... Maybe it was a commercial then... crap.
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posted December 21, 2005 10:23 PM

There should be an option to disable the game description, just like in a video game. I don't need anyone to tell me Hasek made a brilliant save.

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posted December 21, 2005 10:47 PM
Edited by Shiva on 21 Dec 2005

The mute button works pretty well over here
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posted December 21, 2005 11:53 PM

lol

so i just saw the lineup for team canada!

*vomits*

this is truly sick. i don't know if the problem is with me, or with them but somehow i do not see things the way the team canada organizers do...

wow....

*vomits again*
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posted December 22, 2005 12:15 AM
Edited by Shiva on 21 Dec 2005

What exactly turns you off so much? There
are one or two players I could question,
but on the whole, they picked the best guys.
If it really gets you down, click here ;
http://www.imgag.com/product/full/ap/3067907/graphic1.swf
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posted December 22, 2005 12:20 AM

spezza, mccabe and stall on reserve - no crosby, no cujo

doan, doan and doan.. bertuzzi and his handful of points do not beat out the reservists ... i think they got it wrong. draper is like a 4th line dude.. blake isn't getting it done anymore

i just dun like it!

and i couldnt give bush a brain either, had to figure it was impossible from the start
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posted December 22, 2005 12:24 AM

I don't think its Crosby's time yet. He
needs to slow down before he takes over
the world. Spezza and Staal, maybe, but
they will be there for the next 10 years.
Blake..vets sometimes come through when you
need them. Draper, they needed a checker.
Doan might be there for that also.
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posted December 22, 2005 12:30 AM
Edited by pandora on 21 Dec 2005

I understand Draper.. at least the reasoning.
And I do know the advantages to having veterans, but he still doesn't look like he has much gas left...
I think that Crosby shoulda been on the 'taxi' it would do him well to be there - even if not to play. I didn't mean that I think that he shoulda been a lock on the team, but he will obviously be a big part of team Canada in years to come, the experience would be good for him.

*edit* Just sent this link to Shiva - and thought I'd include it here to share with everyone. Its an article by James Duthie - at TSN.ca. Here is the actual link http://www.tsn.ca/columnists/james_duthie.asp?id=145263
I'll copy in the text here

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The romantics say we all have a soul mate out there somewhere (And for the last time Charlize Theron, I'm not yours, so please stop calling).



Maybe. But this I know for sure: we do have a sport mate, a half best buddy/half nemesis we are destined to compete with for forever. The French use the term "rivalle eternalle." Eternal rival.



(Clearly I made that up. The French don't call it anything. I just was trying to sound worldly again.)



Ali had Frazier. Magic had Larry. Sidney has Alexander.



And I have Mark Ward.



I met Wardo in Grade 3, when we invented a bizarre hybrid of soccer, hockey, and basketball, where you try to kick a rubber puck between the base posts of the playground basketball hoop to score. It was pure genius (we're still bitter we don't get the props Naismith gets), and occupied every winter recess in public school.



The problem was Wardo happened to be better than me at Sockeyhoop. He was a sick combination of Beckham, Jagr and LeBron (I mean…In a three-foot ten kid in snow boots kind of way).



And this drove me nuts.



Even worse, he could climb the steep aluminum slope and get on the roof of our school, which, in summertime, was carpeted with brand new tennis balls sprayed by adults who practised against the school wall.



This made him God of Glen Ogilvie Public.



Fresh Slazengers were like crack to Grade Three boys. Not for tennis, but for road hockey, baseball, Chance (throw ball against wall, must catch it on the way back or you're out). Tennis balls were currency. And he was Bill flippin' Gates.



I would try to climb up for hours, and couldn't get half way. So I'd sit on the grass and catch all the balls he'd throw down. Reduced to a ball boy at age 8. Sad.



This is my first memory of competitive fire. And the moment a lifelong rivalry was born.



Wardo would become my best friend. And my eternal rival. My Newman.



For the next 20 years, we would compete at everything.



Running, jumping, climbing, marbles, baseball, soccer, hockey, football, basketball, tennis, badminton, wrestling, golf, mini-golf, dodgeball, lawn darts, Frogger, flexed arm-hang, Toss-A-Cross, Risk, hockey-card flipping, Crazy 8's, Electronic Quarterback, caps, and eventually…girls.



And that doesn't even take into account the zillions of games we invented. You don't understand. This went on every waking moment we were together.



Waiting for the school bus? Who can hit the stop sign with the snowball first!



Bored in class? Who can peg Darryl Fogel in the head with a piece of eraser!



We used to walk two miles to the local mini-golf (racing at the end), play three rounds like it was the fifth major, hit two buckets of balls, with an intricate points system points for hitting various targets, then wager on how many cars would pass before my Mom picked us up.



It was a two-kid daily decathlon.



We once invented a two-man game of baseball we played on our knees in my basement using one of my Dad's drumsticks for a bat, and a ping-pong ball. We started this when we were 10. It only ended when I moved from that house.



At 21.



This continued into our 30's, and it went beyond sport.



Just before I moved to Vancouver in 1997, we went on one last boy's road trip to Newfoundland. One night at a bar on George Street, we were talking to a cute blonde. When she excused herself to go to the washroom, Wardo said: "She's totally into me."



"Yeah, right." I said.



"She's just being friendly, moron. It's Newfoundland. They're friendly to everyone."



So, of course, it was game on. I stayed in the same spot. Wardo moved to the other side of the mostly empty bar. If she came out, and went to him, he'd win.



Well, she comes out, starts towards me, notices Wardo isn't there, and B-lines across the bar to him. He did a victory dance Chad Johnson would be envious of. And just to flaunt his win, he married her.



When my wife gave birth to our first, my first call was to Wardo. It was a touching moment between two lifelong friends.



"One-nothing sucker! I am kicking your ass in babies!"



It went back and forth from there. For the record, it's now 3-3, and due to...umm...procedures...is destined to end that way. Though I'm pondering adopting a baby from China, just to beat him.



Wardo lives in Newfoundland now, so the games have been reduced to hockey pools and one golf weekend a year. But the new generation brings hope.



Last year, a bunch of old friends got together for an afternoon at a park in Ottawa. Wardo was in town with his oldest son (Age 4), and I brought mine (Age 4.5).






We raced them.



For the record, my boy crushed Wardo's boy by 10 feet. We sooooo rule.



(*By the way, if this constitutes some form of abuse, please don't contact authorities.)



(**Unless you are in Newfoundland. If they take Wardo's kid away, I'll lead 3-2 again.)



James Duthie can be reached at jduthie@tsn.ca.


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posted December 22, 2005 04:32 PM
Edited by Twotone on 22 Dec 2005

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spezza, mccabe and stall on reserve - no crosby, no cujo

doan, doan and doan.. bertuzzi and his handful of points do not beat out the reservists ... i think they got it wrong. draper is like a 4th line dude.. blake isn't getting it done anymore

i just dun like it!

and i couldnt give bush a brain either, had to figure it was impossible from the start


He already has one.  You don't graduate from Yale without a good head on your shoulders.  Silly socialists

Good story about the friendly rivalry.  Too bad they're both on bad teams.

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posted December 22, 2005 09:20 PM
Edited by pandora on 22 Dec 2005

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He already has one. You don't graduate from Yale without a good head on your shoulders. Silly socialists


edited out as Bush humour was deemed offensive by a member

So here's a question for everyone - who is your favorite of the new young players?
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posted December 22, 2005 11:34 PM
Edited by pandora on 22 Dec 2005

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He already has one. You don't graduate from Yale without a good head on your shoulders. Silly socialists


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Let's see some facts to back up these accusations.

So here's a question for everyone - who is your favorite of the new young players?


Jussi Jokinen, gotta support my Stars.

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posted December 23, 2005 03:42 AM

hey this is a hockey thread... only Don Cherry can talk politics here....  

and since neither of you are him
(or at least I don't think  so) let's get back to team Canada!!

Personnaly Doan and Draper shouldn't be there...
Go with the talent, not experience, we have enough.


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posted December 24, 2005 12:37 AM

Offtopic is gone - No more Arguing over anything that isn't hockey, if I see it again - its gone, if I see it one more time it gets a penalty then it's gone.

Back to the topic, I agree with you completely Jebus... I see more merit to Draper than Doan.. but still I'd have picked another.

Spezza playing with Heatley shoulda been a no-brainer - I can't believe Spezza isn't there as a lock.

What about team USA - no Roenick? C'mon....
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