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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted October 27, 2010 09:58 AM

Week 1 rush FtW H5 allows for some incredible rushes in the early weeks, there's nothing like a lvl 15-20 hero week 2 with pathetic army taking down everything in his path and sweeping you away like dust.
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ebbafan
ebbafan


Promising
Famous Hero
posted December 09, 2010 05:04 AM

I managed to kill 3 groups of 110 balrogs, and 2 groups of 240 black dragons in one battle using a necromancer, 14 poltergeists and no mind control dark magic. Longest battle I ever had. Humiliating, but not for me this time!

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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted December 09, 2010 12:24 PM

Excellent

Wait IT'S NOT! Who are we supposed to laugh at!
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Azagal
Azagal


Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Smooth Snake
posted December 09, 2010 12:31 PM
Edited by Azagal at 12:32, 09 Dec 2010.

How exactly is that suppose to work? Bladebarriers and a 1210592385234 SP phoenix? Well and frenzy... anywas replay please~~~ won't watch the whole thing just want to get an idea of what you did.
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vitorsly
vitorsly


Known Hero
Joker!
posted December 10, 2010 09:59 PM

I had 5 footmans, 7 archers and 14 peasants and saw a group of 4 sprites guarding an artifact! I dint had movement point so I waited a turn. An enemy heroe appeared with some succubuses and defeated me in a perfect! Then he lost  to the group of pixies because they were 5000!

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Elvin
Elvin


Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
posted December 10, 2010 10:04 PM

AHAHA Most satisfying loss ever.
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ebbafan
ebbafan


Promising
Famous Hero
posted December 11, 2010 04:02 AM

sorry Azagal, don't have a replay. but basically my strategy was to use the black dragons against the balrogs. i didn't think i would win, i was just hoping to kill some balrogs then flee and then return and repeat.

what i did was to separate the poltergeists into 7 groups of 2. my necromancer had last stand and cold death. basically i would deep freeze the balrogs then use the poltergeists to force a black dragon retaliation on them. it was hard because balrogs are also ethereal and have stormstrike, negating last stand.

when the computer got smart i had to use motn and circle of winter to kill off balrogs and regain mana. one ghost stack survived because it was trapped in the corner by a black dragon stack. i kept raising another to force black dragon retaliations

eventually the balrogs all died and then i forced retaliations on the dragons against each other until they disappeared.

you can try the scenario if you like; i still haven't finished it
it's called "The Road Less Travelled" by "Mrs. Mouzik"

now i have figure out how to fight a legion of phoenixes without mind control dark

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NutzuCamataru
NutzuCamataru

Tavern Dweller
posted May 21, 2011 12:49 PM

Yesterday a friend beat me using puppet master and the biggest noobish mistake i did was not to equip my tome of light magic to get cleansing cuz i thought cleansing is a summoning type magic... and after he beat my army i entered the castle and built mage guild lvl 2 which gave me cleansing(i never built it because i haven't got any schools of magic)
So you can start laughing))

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Warlord
Warlord


Famous Hero
Lord of Image Spam
posted May 21, 2011 02:14 PM

Once I was playing with Fortress, just sort of fooling around. My hero had 160 Shieldguards, 14 Skirmishers, and no magic. So I saw some golems and right clicked, it said "Throng" and I thought, "Hmm, haven't seen that. Oh well, I can take it." When I go into battle, there was four stacks of golems, with fifty in each stack.
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Bombur
Bombur


Known Hero
posted May 21, 2011 07:39 PM

@NutzuCamataru: Your friend must be really smart, or a geek =))))
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ebbafan
ebbafan


Promising
Famous Hero
posted June 25, 2011 06:22 PM

just got crushed yesterday by a sylvan player, never thought i would lose so quickly and thoroughly!

i was playing nebiros:

Exp Attack, Defense, Logistics, Sorcery, and Dark

had 25 att and 15 def w/ midteen sp/knowledge

army was: 750 marksmen, 358 vindicators, 136 battle griffins, 13 zealots, 186 champions, and 29 archangels

notable skills/spells: teleport assault, frenzy, vampirism, tactics, all three dark mastery skills

had: sylvan artifact set, ring of speed, dwarven greaves, ogre shield, cursed ring and tear of asha for 1 week

enemy was playing ylthin:

Exp Attack, Light, Logistics, Luck, Leadership

had: 16 att, 25 def, mid teens sp/knowledge

army was: 568 dryads, 515 war dancers, 368 arcane archers, 145 high druids, 106 pristine unicorns, 100 ancient treants, 33 crystal dragons

had: ring of unrepentant, cloak of death's shadow, dwarven shield, lucky horseshoe, dragon sword, dragon helm, dragon necklace, dragon armor, windstrider boots

notable skills/spells: elven luck, retribution, swift mind, stormwind, aura of swiftness, master of blessings/wrath avenger vs cavalier, archer, angel

terrain was atypical, only left side along boundary allowed large walking units through. stormwind and necro artifacts really slowed griffins/angels down. crystal dragons killed a lot of archangels vindicators and marksmen, dryads/wind dancers did significant damage, enemy cast mass haste(which i think was a mistake, should have cast mass righteous might) unicorns killed an unbelievable 94 champions and blinded them. arcanes killed rest of marksmen. at this point my hero got to go and frustratingly i realize ylthin's units are immune to frenzy, and even if i had puppet master she could mass cleanse it easily, and there are not many units left to teleport or vampirize(in other words game over). and how come its her units' turn again already???

what struck me in this match was how incredibly effective sylvan's forces are when they can reach you. damage output is insane!
looking back i really needed to main a knight to get stormwind/ higher defense/mass endurance/swift mind. that might have evened things up.

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SKPRIMUS
SKPRIMUS


Promising
Supreme Hero
The One and the Prime
posted June 27, 2011 08:15 AM

sorry can't resist...

what struck me was that you had 358 vindicators, 136 battle griffins, 186 champions, ogre shield and worst of all a demonlord [sacrilege!] leading your troops [it's like inferno vs YLTHIN with full power first turn strike]

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ebbafan
ebbafan


Promising
Famous Hero
posted June 27, 2011 05:04 PM

well the demonlords' defense was ok and he had expert defense, and trading 5% initiative loss for 5 defense was worth it imho, considering he also had the ring of speed. but sylvan's initiative and damage are just too high. i'm not confident that other builds could have stopped her

i tried this build just for the heck of it because it was effective against inferno and necro, but obviously no good vs sylvan

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Six
Six

Tavern Dweller
posted June 28, 2011 04:13 AM

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Play with necropolis and use Word of light

It would be even more fum to do a little raising before u cast word of light
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Summon a phoenix or some elements and next time is your hero's turn use bannish

Better summon some phantoms(the most fun here's with MotW and phantom forces )
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When you are redy to loose your lvl 28 hero use flee not surrender

Do this like a true H3 AI - enter battle, cast eldrich arrow at enemy's most fragile creature and FLEE
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Frenzy his one injured imp or any lvl 1 he has

What about to frenzy his strongest unit and move ur units next to it?
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Give puppet master to lvl 1

Give PM to a dragon and nail yourself with Fire Breathe. Champion charge also
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Use implosion against one lvl 1 creature. Just to CRUSH it!

Better use meteor shower to target one of his units thus targeting 2-3 urs


nice
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SKPRIMUS
SKPRIMUS


Promising
Supreme Hero
The One and the Prime
posted June 28, 2011 07:29 AM

@Ebbafan
unfortunately at those levels & amount of creatures, a sylvan first-turn strike with retribution and luck and an attack stat close to the enemy defence stat will kill armies led by a demonlord (low natural def stat even with exp defence skill)...the sylvan hero can take max damaging skills instead of the defence skill here because the enemy is devastated before it can retaliate.  Same thing can happen agst necro (low attack & slow initiative creatures) & some other factions I imagine.

Those ogre artis can be quite iffy when considering who strikes first & the atb...if one had another arti for the shield slot, then the tradeoff is less than 5 def vs -5% init.
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"to lose is to win, and he who wins shall lose"
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Bombur
Bombur


Known Hero
posted July 03, 2011 12:00 PM

This happened yesterday! Iwas playing on double confrontation with dwarves vs sylvan. My opponent was a guy who is considered the best guy on tunngle, throughout the whole game he kept teasing me and saying I don t know what I am going up against, and said I've heard that many times and almost every time I won. When the final battle commenced he didn't have luck because his skills were enlightenment, war machines and destructive magic, and yes he had imbued ballista, plus tome of destructive magic cause I let him get it. I had armor of the dwarven kings and helmet of the dwarven kings plus pendant of mastery but that wasn t of much use cause I had lots of ore and wood. In the final battle if I recall he had 15 crystal dragons, 37 Ancient treants, 57 White unicorns, 133 high druids, 209 arcane archers, 280-300 wind dancers and 360 dryads. I had 16 Magmas, 28 Flamelords, 49 Rune keepers, 98 battlereagers, 140 whitebears, 220 spearwielders and 420 shieldguards. He did not attack first only with arcane and i used divine vengeance and almost destroyed his arcane archers but they almost destroyed my rune patriarchs, in the end it was a tight battle, he used te ballista wich could destroy 10 of my dragons in one turn and plenty other creatures and I kept using divine vengeance and some runes. I won and he said he wants a rematch or he will never play with me =)))) it was 2 o clock in the morning. I argued with him for 10 minutes that I saved before fight and we could continue tommorow or sometime but that I wanted to sleep, but he kept said he was never going to play with me. I let him have the rematch and this time he beat me but he had only 20 treants and some druids left. This is a bit funny because now he said ok I am a cool guy and all but now I wanna stop playing with him, because he doesn t accept loosing and is a arogant person. And I have no comments or complains about rematches if the other persons wants it but I guess the final battle is what counts the first time cause u don t know what the other persons has and uses. I lost two very close fights this way and hadn t asked for a rematch. I just want to know your opinion
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Bombur
Bombur


Known Hero
posted July 03, 2011 12:10 PM

I am not saying I am the best on tunngle but I am in the top 3.This was a humiliating defeat for him, not for me because sicne I asked a lot of players and they said they never beat him and now I did, theoritically and practilly I am better than him

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Liliths_Love
Liliths_Love

Tavern Dweller
posted July 09, 2011 05:38 PM

My biggest defeat was the second file I ever played. It was a 1v1, and the computer's weakest hero beat my strongest hero.. So bad, just so so bad...

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seelkama
seelkama


Adventuring Hero
Yay! I'm hired. Now what?
posted July 20, 2011 03:07 AM

I was playing the undead campaign with Arantir. His level was around 25 and his spell power around 30. Troops were 7 stacks of 1 ghost. cast word of light with ring of unrepentant. Then i realised i haven't equipped the ring yet because i had other rings, which turned out 1 of them was morale ring!!!Almost cried to restart the whole scenario...

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