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carcity
Supreme Hero
Blind Sage
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posted May 17, 2008 01:27 PM |
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Hi last day i decided to replay the campaign from the original heroes 5 game. so i started out as isabel and had filled the objectives when i decided to level up before i ebtered the garrision. and i attacked a small group (lots) of blood maidens(not upgraded) and they pwned me badly.
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Falkenstein
Hired Hero
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posted May 21, 2008 08:00 AM |
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Hi, i´m back to the forums and i find this thread wonderful so i must share my most humiliating defeat with you.
Few months ago I fought against a friend (a girl, btw) via LAN and I throught it would be an easy victory. For almost entire game, Spy guild showed that my Wyngaal was a better hero (greater army) than her Ylthin. When the battle came, I was quite surprised - her army was composed of a huge Dryad stack, huge Battle Dancer stack and 5 stacks of Pristine Unicorns. I just couldn´t understand. A while later, I realized her strategy, but it was too late for me. My Master Hunters targeted her Dryads and would have slaughtered them if not for Last Stand. Tgen, when my Elder Druids attacked her Dancers, I realized what she was going to do. In her first move, Ylthin cast Regeneration on her Dryads, thus all 5 Pristines got Regeneration as well. She followed with Mass Haste and other mass spells. Then she used Divine Vengeance to blow away my Master Hunters and Elder Druids. Her Unicorns just survived first hit due to Last Stand and regenerated, so they could survive another strike. And when i finally managed to kill almost all Unicorn stacks by concentrating attacks on them, Ylthin just cast Resurrection to bring them all back. I realized my only chance to beat her was to wait till she runs out of Mana. Sadly, she had around 20 Knowledge (level 20, but had many artifacts). In the end, I had to flee.
A day later I retaliated with my secondaty hero (Talanar) and tore Ylthin apart, cause she had nearly no Mana left. I throught I would win after all. When enemy secondary Dirael appeared with great army (composed of all tiers), I realized how arrogant I was...
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JoonasTo
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
What if Elvin was female?
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posted May 21, 2008 08:09 AM |
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That doesn't sound like a humiliating defeat that sounds like a brilliant victory to your enemy who outsmarted you at every turn.
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arxur
Adventuring Hero
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posted May 21, 2008 08:13 AM |
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But it was humiliating for him.
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Warmonger
Promising
Legendary Hero
fallen artist
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posted May 21, 2008 08:39 AM |
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I see we discover yet another strategy for Sylvan faction every day! I'll have to play it once again.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted May 21, 2008 08:46 AM |
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Wow good girl. She sure knows how to play huh?
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Lexxan
Honorable
Undefeatable Hero
Unimpressed by your logic
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posted May 21, 2008 08:55 AM |
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Not THAT is one (if not, the only) reason, why Ylthin is my favourite Sylvan Hero (along with Gilraen).
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WarLore
Famous Hero
servant of urgash
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posted May 22, 2008 07:53 AM |
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she is truly mastermind. very tactical
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Thanatos
Known Hero
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posted May 22, 2008 04:30 PM |
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Edited by Thanatos at 16:31, 22 May 2008.
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And I have another one: I just lost a siege against Vittorio because I had no... ammo cart Yes, you´ve read it right, I lost because I had no ammo cart, which would´ve allowed my 39 hunters to kill the 10 squires he had left on the battlefield before they could have finished off my Druid Elders.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted May 22, 2008 04:39 PM |
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Haha that's one of the silliest mistakes but it's so easy to forget it
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Moonlith
Bad-mannered
Supreme Hero
If all else fails, use Fiyah!
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posted May 22, 2008 04:41 PM |
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@Falkenstein: Just curious, how did she do remotely enough damage to break your army? Her unicorns were enough to slowly kill your entire army?
@Thanatos: That IS embarassing Nice one!
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted May 22, 2008 04:44 PM |
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She didn't have to, he explained why
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Fauch
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted May 22, 2008 05:58 PM |
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pristine unicorn + last stand + regeneration. awesome strategy.
I guess it could still be countered by inferno or dungeon quite easily (meteor shower)
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Falkenstein
Hired Hero
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posted May 22, 2008 07:16 PM |
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@Moonlith: Her Pristine Unicorns only killed my Silver Unicorns. Rest of my army was destroyed Divine Vengeance and destuctive spells.
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted May 22, 2008 07:17 PM |
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Inferno has another trick, hellfire just as warlocks have elemental chains. I think these bypass last stand. Anyway it would make no sense to try that against a warlock
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Falkenstein
Hired Hero
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posted May 22, 2008 08:04 PM |
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As i think about it, Counterspell would make an ideal counter to this strategy. Without Ylthin´s magic, Pristines are nothing, Last Stand or not. Counterspelling first few spells would do...
But I´m really getting offtopic, so i won´t continue teoretizing anymore
Great tread btw
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted July 01, 2008 10:00 AM |
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Love the expression
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Fauch
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted July 02, 2008 08:50 PM |
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"week of hope". good name.
my friend lost 16 archdemons and 53 hellmares against a neutral army of 150 horned demon. actually there was a problem with his mods, the ability "avenging flames" I give them was supposed to do 3 damage per demon, not 70 (but he still made the error of rushing into explosive demons whereas he knew what would happen )
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Elvin
Admirable
Omnipresent Hero
Endless Revival
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posted July 02, 2008 08:59 PM |
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HAHAHA The numbers are hilarious.
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Fauch
Responsible
Undefeatable Hero
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posted July 02, 2008 09:41 PM |
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after the battle I asked him : did you forget that they explode if you kill them?
and he answered : no, but I thought it wouldn't be powerful enough to kill my creatures.
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