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infinitus
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posted August 10, 2008 09:31 PM |
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Here, Haggash loosing to Ossir on Genesis ... http://rapidshare.com/files/136357461/infinitus-vex.sav.html ... My opponent said he failed to get swift mind for Haggash ...
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
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posted August 10, 2008 10:00 PM |
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Edited by Jinxer at 00:28, 11 Aug 2008.
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Just experienced SYLVAN!!! Fiur is right... Sylvan is GOD like and prolly close to if not SILLIER then Orcs as a Town.
Arcane Archers killed 25 Flame Lords 1 hit.
My 7 magmas hit and couldnt kill 1 Emerald Dragon.
Arcane Archers killed 7 Magma Dragons 1 hit next turn..
Double Rezing for sylvan on top of that... lol and crazy normal High Initiative...
Anyways..Good Game SQ79... You are Blessed by the Heroes Gods.! 
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infinitus
Supreme Hero
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posted August 10, 2008 10:24 PM |
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To Jinxer - take Sylvan and play vs SQ ... After such game your opinion about sylvan power will be more balanced 
How about to make sea travel with main hero more attractive, so many wreckage's and not a single lost ship I send secondary hero to take free staff, but to send main hero on sea, i think, is too much time lost...
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fiur
Promising
Supreme Hero
Map Creator
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posted August 10, 2008 11:10 PM |
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To Jinxer - take Sylvan and play vs SQ ... After such game your opinion about sylvan power will be more balanced
How about to make sea travel with main hero more attractive, so many wreckage's and not a single lost ship I send secondary hero to take free staff, but to send main hero on sea, i think, is too much time lost...
ever heard about sunken temple infinitus?
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Jinxer
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posted August 11, 2008 12:28 AM |
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Edited by Jinxer at 04:26, 11 Aug 2008.
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Upon reflection... the unbalance in our game was no SOLEY due to sylvan silliness... but more so because of the insanely lopsided stats in our game..
SQ stats = 23-32-40-25
Jinxer stats = 16-17-21-13
BOTH approx same Hero Level...
So I guess no matter what the town matchups.. no matter what the skill level involved... the game is gonna have lopsided ending with stats sooo lopsided. **
I guess I kinda understand now why SQ got soo upset and frustrated about that Ceasr game with Strider on Twilight... when games are this lopsided after spending all that time in a game... it really sucks haha!! So I now understand SQ. I want a rematch... and hopefully next time we can get a bit better balanced ending.
But Sylvan still is silly
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infinitus
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posted August 11, 2008 07:28 AM |
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To Fiur - sunken temple it's nice, but other routes are match more attractive to me ... Maybe if i get snatch skill for not loose time boarding on ship ...
To Jinxer - It's human nature, i the same, if i loose, i think - stupid game, stupid orcs, i good, world is bad I think the right attitude it's to play faction considered imbalanced vs good players, or to post in forum replay in topic - how to beat sylvan, what i doing wrong, please comment ...
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sq79
Famous Hero
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posted August 11, 2008 07:47 AM |
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Finished 3rd game in genesis yesterday, this time i was dwarfs, hero brand
I can't understand....the growth rate of dwarfs is amazing if you ask me. With +4 level 4 building only available for dwarfs in 2nd town.
To Jinxer : Ingvar versus Anwen rematch anytime you wish 
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sq79
Famous Hero
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posted August 11, 2008 08:49 AM |
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Quote:
Upon reflection... the unbalance in our game was no SOLEY due to sylvan silliness... but more so because of the insanely lopsided stats in our game..
SQ stats = 23-32-40-25
Jinxer stats = 16-17-21-13
BOTH approx same Hero Level...
So I guess no matter what the town matchups.. no matter what the skill level involved... the game is gonna have lopsided ending with stats sooo lopsided. **
I guess I kinda understand now why SQ got soo upset and frustrated about that Ceasr game with Strider on Twilight... when games are this lopsided after spending all that time in a game... it really sucks haha!! So I now understand SQ. I want a rematch... and hopefully next time we can get a bit better balanced ending.
But Sylvan still is silly
Hey, sp 40 was after channeling
Take strong note : We were 6 levels apart when we fought the final.
If anything, warpath made all the difference there.
I was upset with twilight because it was purely orcish, the only race not needed to return to town to retreive spells and the lack of choices to move elsewhere. Was strictly a one path only map.
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Jinxer
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posted August 11, 2008 04:46 PM |
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Well 6 levels didnt account for the massive difference in stats.... I was unlucky with artifacts...plain and simple...
And its pointless to do a reverse game rematch SQ.. unless you can guarentee that I will get all the good arts and you none to make it a true mirror reverse game...
And dont forget that upon my further reflection.. I realized that it wasnt about Sylvan being to strong.. it was about the artifacts and stats.. if stats were closer to even.. I prolly woulda had a chance to win that game....
And the comparison I made to you SQ about your frustration with Twilight was not based on the fact thatt wilight is strictly orc map... but more on the unbalanced nature of the end game. In your game the end was unbalanced cause you say map is made for orcs.. in our game the end was unbalanced cause you got all the good artifacts and I got all the fourleafclovers and rings of sarriusses etc ( no stat arts)
But YES I want a Regular REMATCH!!! You cant be lucky EVERY game!
If anything I would want a rematch with YOU sylvan again.. and Me Fortress again.
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Elit
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posted August 12, 2008 01:50 PM |
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Edited by Elit at 13:51, 12 Aug 2008.
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Map is very interest!
I have one almost finished game here with jorko/sylvan vs me/haven. We start all random. I have serius problems with gold and cant use in real main ability for train. So maybe need more gold on map. I'm wonder why in second town is ban mage guild over lvl 3. For me is better if all can buid lvl 5. We can build fort but cant citadela. So its suprised me realy bad and pissed alot. If citadela is baned no point to can be build fort too. Have another "haven problem". In second town i cant build lvl 5-6 but can build "train bildings". So after i spend alot gc i will can train only from lvl 2 to lvl 3. Its not my dream for this gold
For sure need more games/test but i'm not hapy to be haven here...and full blind cost me alot gc for build useless bildings in second town.
Hope my comment will help for future balance 
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Jinxer
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posted August 12, 2008 06:11 PM |
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@ Elit--
First of all.. I am planning an update to Genesis with some balance fixes... and one of them fixes is that I will RE-enable the level 5 guild in town 2.... and I will disable FORT.. good suggestion... as for buildings like training grounds etc... the game will not allow you to disable specific to town buildings like that.. since the town starts as random etc.
And as for the GOLD... its about perfect... its all about resource management... in the end game in all the towns I have played.. I am trading artifacts and resources to buy everything bearly... thats how it should be... no free lunches And 80+ Paladins would be much to strong for this small map.. so its good that training is limited some.. I think perfect balance...
As always your 2nd game on any map is always better
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Elit
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posted August 12, 2008 06:44 PM |
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@ Elit--
First of all.. I am planning an update to Genesis with some balance fixes... and one of them fixes is that I will RE-enable the level 5 guild in town 2.... and I will disable FORT.. good suggestion... as for buildings like training grounds etc... the game will not allow you to disable specific to town buildings like that.. since the town starts as random etc.
And as for the GOLD... its about perfect... its all about resource management... in the end game in all the towns I have played.. I am trading artifacts and resources to buy everything bearly... thats how it should be... no free lunches And 80+ Paladins would be much to strong for this small map.. so its good that training is limited some.. I think perfect balance...
As always your 2nd game on any map is always better
I'm glad to see we think almost same
btw free lunches is my favorite lunch
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Asheera
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Undefeatable Hero
Elite Assassin
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posted August 12, 2008 06:49 PM |
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First of all.. I am planning an update to Genesis with some balance fixes... and one of them fixes is that I will RE-enable the level 5 guild in town 2.... and I will disable FORT.. good suggestion...
But isn't the Fort required to build the level 3 dwelling for Necro?
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fiur
Promising
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posted August 12, 2008 06:51 PM |
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Quote:
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First of all.. I am planning an update to Genesis with some balance fixes... and one of them fixes is that I will RE-enable the level 5 guild in town 2.... and I will disable FORT.. good suggestion...
But isn't the Fort required to build the level 3 dwelling for Necro?
it is... but in 2'nd town lvl.3 dwelling is prebuilt...
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Asheera
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Undefeatable Hero
Elite Assassin
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posted August 12, 2008 06:56 PM |
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Ah, I see now, thanks for clarifying
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Elit
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posted August 12, 2008 07:51 PM |
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btw all maps with 2-3 towns are more balanced compare 1 town maps. Dont know why you are bothered to ban bildings in second town. Just enable full build and map will be better balanced.
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sq79
Famous Hero
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posted August 12, 2008 08:07 PM |
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I think jinxer is afraid of imps stealing all mana in end game ?
Full town build is a big change honestly, but if that's the main worry, maybe can consider remove 1 level 1 dwelling away.
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Fraudatio
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posted August 12, 2008 09:20 PM |
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I think you should keep the second town as is today Jinxer, it fits the resources perfect (just as you said yourself).
Of course Fort should be disabled as Elit pointed out. I think Haven is very much competitive on this map as it is, but keep us posted on how the battle went Elit!
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Jinxer
Legendary Hero
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posted August 12, 2008 09:24 PM |
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Edited by Jinxer at 21:25, 12 Aug 2008.
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Imps are only part of the concern... the other is... I dont want these HUGE 1 round battles and its over before it starts from first strike... and that can easly happen if Sylvan has 23 Emerald Dragons instead of 13... so once I RE-enable the guild 5 in town 2... the only thing the 2nd town wont have is level 1-5-6-7 creatures there...
Less creatures creates more longer battles that means more strategy and battle tactics etc. Instead of first strike battle over etc..
Monday when I get home from My Camping Vacation I will post the Genesis-v1.0 Update SO got from now till then to figure out any other things that map might need tweaked.. post here.. and I will consider it.
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MysticPhoenix
Adventuring Hero
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posted August 14, 2008 12:20 AM |
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We enjoyed the mp very much, but we think the garrisons are not balanced very well.
The Phoenix garrison in the desert seems to be a lot easier than the one with the haven creatures - not to mention the water garrisons although we didn't even dare to try it because of the scary blue cyclopses. That's a pity, because you will always go for the easier one.
If others have the same opinion, we suggest to strengthen it a bit, maybe some water elements can do the trick? Or increase the size of the titan's stacks? Well, we trust in your creativity and look forward to an improved version, no matter if you implement our suggestion or not.
My opponent mentioned a resource pile he couldn't pick up in the desert, and I think I couldn't attack one of the stacks that guarded the warrior's tomb for player green.
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