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Sorry, but I would prefer any day and night Paris Hilton to your milky buttered little boobed chinese real beauty chick.
Lol I agree. Although I'm not that much of a Paris Hilton fan, I would still prefer her than the picture that TheDeath posted. 
Edit: Azagal, great post dude. 
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oh well, the chick Death posted is an Asian, and they, well, are the I-type by figure.. even more often than in Poland 
And that one isn't particularly awesome, too..
But some of them are awesome enough to ignore their I-type bodies rarely occurs outside photoshop, tho..
The "real" beauty often means no lipstick, no eyeshade, only BSS.
BSS stands for Blur, Soften, Sharpen
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BSS eh?
Anyway, girls always looks the best without makeup if you ask me. Most of the time they look way uglier with makeup anyway, unless they use only as little as possible as in halfway neutral that would help on what is helpable on tone and similar.
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What my problem is that your solution to not being able to deal with sexy women (and you’re not should the post reflect your honest opinion) is to insult them and treat them like scum.
You mean actually saying that some women dress up like prostitutes? Imagine that! 
No, I just don't see how you don't have a problem with those kinds of women (I use the term loosely) who dress like that all the time with various parts of their anatomy hanging out. It's disgusting. 
You can tell a lot about a person from the way they dress. Usually, if a girl dresses sexy all the time, she's not worth talking to.
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You mean actually saying that some women dress up like prostitutes?
I have no idea what you're talking about. Honestly. What I ment to say is quite clear in that sentence (maybe don't read the part in "()" then it should be clear as daylight.
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No, I just don't see how you don't have a problem with those kinds of women
Who says I don't? I don't think I've yet said anything on my perception of any kind of women in this thread. I may even have an opinion smiliar to TheDeaths (in a way if I understand him correctly )But that doesn't mean I have to insult anyone.
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You can tell a lot about a person from the way they dress. Usually, if a girl dresses sexy all the time, she's not worth talking to.
It is not true. You can only know this if you actually speak to sexy women. I have a very good friend who dresses sexy often enough simply because she is sexy. And she is both a very charming lady as very intelligent.
I don't like how for so many of you aparently sexyness walks hand in hand with stupidity. It's cliche and only shows that you obviously don't have experience talking to women. Mvass when you made that "usually" statement did you have any ground to base it on? I speak with many women (seriously I don't want to brag or anything but maybe if I say it you'll believe me) and of course not everyone is a nobelprice winner but they aren't "disgusting" nor are they "snows".
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posted December 30, 2008 03:54 PM |
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I suspect the problem might be, that as soon as "various parts of their anatomy hanging out", it's too much of a distraction to concentrate on any kind of intelligent talk for some...
I may be wrong, though.
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You can tell a lot about a person from the way they dress. Usually, if a girl dresses sexy all the time, she's not worth talking to.
And this comes from someone who is 16-17 years old....don't you think you lack a bit experience in that matter?
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Azagal I see no point in continuing this further with quote wars so I'll summarize it without much quotes.
I don't actually get what's your problem. You say that I insult them -- I didn't even said it to their face, first of all, and I wouldn't even care what they would respond. What about saying "ugly" instead? Is that an insult too? I can't express my freaking opinion about what's ugly but you can express your opinion about what's sexy?
But "snow" is more than just 'ugly' (which is sometimes just unfortunate) -- it's something that they decide (dress up like that), first of all, and do it on purpose. They want to show off and do that, not because they are unfortunate. Do I hurt they feelings by saying that? So freaking WHAT? It's just a freaking opinion and they decided to dress up like that or apply makeup or whatever we're talking about. That's the world.
Everyone can express opinions about products on this board, saying how one sucks over another, or about politicians, saying which one is more of an idiot than another, or about "average" people, saying how idiots they are for playing too much WoW or whatever else, or about those people that suicide, saying they were idiots for doing it... and you make a big fuss when I express my opinion about girls? What's the problem? Not everyone will either agree that a given car will look the same. Or if someone says Lamborghinis are stylish, not everyone will freaking agree. What the hell? It's not like "idiot" wouldn't be an insult, but it's used more generally.
No wonder the world is so degenerating like that with such attitudes and people which perceive different things, and how most young 'beauties' sell their soul to the entertainment industry and become "snows" (sorry again, you know what I meant), an example would be Erika Sawajiri. No wonder there are so many problems with today's youth because of this stupid mentality from the "adults" giving them an example -- this includes drugs of course. I mean, who wouldn't follow the "trend" if their best friend just put a ring in their nose, shouldn't they follow the trend, right? It's "cool" right? Add all sorts of makeup or whatever, then maybe contracts to all sorts of magazines, and you end up with the "problem with today's youth" and the increased amount of all the things people want to stop but don't even look at the freaking source (drugs, 'human meat' trading, increased prostitution, and lots of lots of family troubles). There was some good movie about this on Hallmark channel I watched some long time ago, I don't remember the name though (the movie was INSPIRED FROM FREAKING REALITY).
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Are you kidding me? Of course it’s fine! Nobody forces anybody to watch that movie and if people felt like watching a movie in the park they aren’t doing anything forbidden lol.
I think I explained that already with the plasma TV in the park.
First of all, let's ignore the fact that the TV takes valuable PUBLIC SPACE and it "pollutes" the light that goes into people's eyes (which is similar to sound pollution: aka someone annoying you with high volume, yes you have a right to complain if its outside in public!).
But let's ignore that, because "snows" (again, you know what I mean) don't take up more space than anyone else (compared to a TV of course). However, when they do "show off" they DO SOMETHING in that public area, and might annoy others. They, consequently, pollute the light more, so to speak, with 100% their will and doing only that (not for something else). But that's not even my problem I'm discussing, just pointing it out.
My problem is, why the hell can't I express how I see them?
And Azagal, I don't know what problem you have, but it does seem to me like you avoid any reasonable argument because you resort to things like "childish" and all other personal crap. You're acting like a fanboy, who has a 'friend' that likes a certain game, let's say "Counter-Strike" to keep it more realistic. Now, you don't particularly enjoy that game but you have a friend that does.
What the hell is your problem if I go and say that Counter-Strike sucks ass? You start to defend your 'friend' against that but I don't see what's your problem with MY FREAKING OPINION about the damn game! I can further say Counter-Strike is bad. People can say drugs are bad. If I say Counter-Strike is like drugs, is that freaking offensive just because you have a 'friend' who plays it and you think I insulted him? Grow up, that's the world, people will disagree.
Now if you had a friend which took drugs, do you think everyone who says drugs are bad and for irrational people and all that insults them? And that you should make a fuss about it? Just accept that not everyone will have the same opinions or "keep it to himself". If I hurt someone's feelings, so what? It was their choice after all to take drugs (or dress up 'sexy').
Heck just imagine how many times we 'insulted' Xerox saying WoW sucks ass! Clearly, if we go on by that route, the world will end up with as much censorship as political correction: which is, no one will be able to express their freaking opinion PROPERLY because of FEAR of not being "political correct". And it usually ends up in failure.
I thought we were past the freaking point of taking symbols literally and just accepted how people are by their message, and what they mean by it. The world would be such a better place and simpler to express yourself if people just accepted that different opinions about someone and even calling the opposite "bad" or whatever (NOT EVEN DIRECTLY) doesn't has any serious and grown-up consequences, apart from just hurting their feelings but heck, people can have their feelings hurt JUST BY DISAGREEING WITH THEM. So does that mean we should stop disagreeing? 
And @JJ, I see no problem with calling them mother****ers if you don't actually the literal way -- of course, in that case however, you do HAVE alternative words to choose from. If you'd give me any alternative to it, meaning the same stuff that I don't literally mean with it (I explained that) please do so, I would gladly use that instead. In romanian, there IS such a word. Not sure about english and translators don't help (some translate it to "*****" and others to "snow" and others don't translate it at all).
Nevermind, it seems I'll probably need to write "cheap & fake attempts at achieving style that sucks and destroys their beauty" everytime instead of "snow", just because people here seem to jump off like that on "symbols" instead of the "message".
Also another question: if indeed such women were literally "snows", would it still be wrong to call them that way? After all, I would just be speaking the damn truth in that case. It's like you can't accept it. (of course that was an EXAMPLE if it WOULD be that way, because clearly I have no idea if it is, even though I SUSPECT it has high chances of being true).
Back on track: I can't believe you guys don't find Aya Ueto beautiful lol. The opposite of her would be Paris Hilton, actually, the only reason you don't like her is because of the propaganda (Hilton, I mean). Nevermind the fact that Aya won a beauty contest, she has a clean face, cute smile and no 'sexy style' whatsoever (you know what that is). Simply put, she is beautiful. May not be 'sexy' but 'sexy style' decreases beauty IMO. But each to his own I guess.
Anyway, I think you realize that if I were Azagal right now I would start to crack up on you and starting to get personal just because you have different opinions on what's beautiful (since you don't find Aya beautiful, I can't believe it  ). But since I'm not Azagal, I can accept that, even though I may not understand you people at all
And I don't like blondes.
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And this comes from someone who is 16-17 years old....don't you think you lack a bit experience in that matter?
I think first he is mostly right, unless it is different in Germany, I've seen plenty of those girls, or those who hold their "pochette" or whatever it's called on a hand, you know, like almost about to drop off (can't explain).
Yes THOSE girls, those are just KIDS. Period. You'll never see such a girl having a serious relationship or serious life, some may even get in trouble, they are like spoiled brats who get support from their parents. No different than those who take tattoos, drugs, nose-rings, whatever other crap, or the emo-girls or goth-girls.
I know some who just realized this after getting kicked out from the house...
They aren't mature. Period.
Some however, still make it through the entertainment industry, which literally steals their "souls" and they get abused and probably even tricked further. (similar to putting a 5 year old in the military, and he becoming a 'slave', because of how he was taught).
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You can tell a lot about a person from the way they dress. Usually, if a girl dresses sexy all the time, she's not worth talking to.
And this comes from someone who is 16-17 years old....don't you think you lack a bit experience in that matter?
This time Mvass, You are wrong. So by your theory, if i dress black all the time, it means i'm a melancholic goth or something?
if a girl wears a piece of clothing with a reasonable neckline and short skirts(fitting in the frames of mind) so she's not worth talking to? Dude...
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What about saying "ugly" instead? Is that an insult too? I can't express my freaking opinion about what's ugly but you can express your opinion about what's sexy?
This is just my opinion, but saying sexy isn't that bad of a thing. If I was a woman and someone called me sexy then I would take that as a compliment because they think that I look good. Being called ugly or a snow is not a good thing. You can express your opinion about what is ugly but it's often hard to do it without someone getting offended by it, if you know what I mean.
and before you start, yes i know it was just an example but I'm trying to make a point.
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posted December 30, 2008 04:37 PM |
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I understand what you meant, but that was exactly my point. Only positive criticism is allowed? Then "opinions" go out the window, literally... Why do we have opinions then? Is it only "either say something positive, or nothing at all?"
Is that where we are going? 
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You can have opinions that are bad but not to the point where you might be saying snows or anything. That's just wrong IMO.
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That would be "bitch" (sorry for NOT censoring it, but I just had to explain it). Which ironically, some romanian translators translate the less-offensive "snow" version (which i explained what means) into that (and others into "snow" and others not at all).
Weird world.
Furthermore, what if you would see, literally, a video with "snows"? Would it still be bad to speak the truth?
Or for that matter, saying "those Israel leaders are bastards for launching that attack" but saying "X are bitches" is different? I think it is just somewhat reasonable and not even direct, just an opinion because obviously, you don't know them all personally... Even though you can put it more nicely, which I agree (bitch =/= snow).
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Yes THOSE girls, those are just KIDS. Period. You'll never see such a girl having a serious relationship or serious life, some may even get in trouble, they are like spoiled brats who get support from their parents. No different than those who take tattoos, drugs, nose-rings, whatever other crap, or the emo-girls or goth-girls.
They are all evil! Burn them on a stack with holy fire of our purity! Whoever stands in our way must be killed! ZOMGBBS!!!111
Excuse me, but you got it all wrong. The tolerance and pluralism doesn't imply indifference and anarchy, it's just about accepting the ones we don't like. If you don't like girls of such kinds you either have to convince them they're doing wrong or stay silent, as your opinion is not superior to their habits and preferences. It is a issue only between you and them, not between your own reality and unholy deviation.
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"those Israel leaders are bastards for launching that attack" but saying "X are snowes"
There is an essential difference between saying "Mr. X and mr. Y caused death of innocent people" than "all people in Israel are murderers", don't you think?
You keep on talking about large groups of females in general, not any particular persons that may deserve it or could defend themselves.
As to the "light pollution" and other weirds, I ignore it as totally ridiculous construction you made up in a moment just to support your ungrounded accusations.
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There is no correct word.
What you look for is a word for a woman who clads herself in a cheap provocative way and may or may not have quite a lose moral.
THERE IS NO REASON IN THE WORLD TO USE AN OFFENSIVE AND DEGRADING WORD TO DESCRIBE A BEHAVIOUR FOR WOMEN THAT WOULDN'T EVEN RAISE AN EYEBROW WITH MEN!
You just display old-fashioned BIAS against women: a decent woman doesn't do that!
What about decent men?
There is no excuse for this old-fashioned crap.
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They are all evil! Burn them on a stack with holy fire of our purity! Whoever stands in our way must be killed! ZOMGBBS!!!111
Excuse me, but you got it all wrong. The tolerance and pluralism doesn't imply indifference and anarchy, it's just about accepting the ones we don't like. If you don't like girls of such kins you either have to convince them they're doing wrong or stay silent, as your opinion is not superior to their habits and preferences. It is a issue only between you and them, not between your own reality and unholy deviation.
And by calling them "snows", to you it means I want to start a crusade against them?
Just wow, I only expressed how I perceive them, and you think I want to chop their heads off.
Who do you think I am? Jack the Ripper? (j/k)
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You keep on talking about large groups of females in general, not any particular persons that may deserve it or could defend themselves.
Yeah like I talk about "Counter-Strike" addicts, or "WoW" addicts, but you don't make a fuss about that but about this?
It's not about the fact that they girls. Nothing to do with that. Men can be too. It's about a specific group (i.e like "emo" but this is a different group).
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As to the "light pollution" and other weirds, I ignore it as totally ridiculous construction you made up in a moment just to support your ungrounded accusations.
Think of SOUND pollution. Someone comes with some music you hate (let's say, death metal). They bring it in park and turn it to maximum volume. Is that ok?
They can do that in their personal private space. Not in public.
But that is NOT a problem I had as I have said, they don't take up more than anyone else, unless they SHOW OFF (i.e like "clowns", but in their "sexy style") which DOES INDEED affect others because they want attention -- so it does affect others. They can stay there without showing off, no problemo. See?
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You just display old-fashioned BIAS against women: a decent woman doesn't do that!
What about decent men?
There is no excuse for this old-fashioned crap.
Period.
Old fashioned or not (I have no idea about that anyway), it's still just an opinion. But then again, if I say that their appearance "sucks" would be less offensive?
And just because something is old-fashioned or outdated doesn't mean it's bad. In fact, it's almost always better and with more values. (but that is subjective)
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And by calling them "snows", to you it means I want to start a crusade against them?
No, you just call them snows all the time, what's the matter?
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it's about a specific group
A very specific group which you avoid to define and which includes a large part of population? What you say is not different than racism and xenophobia. "Women dressing sexy are not real girls" equals "Judes are not a real people". Sorry.
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Think of SOUND pollution.
There is a law which moderates the acceptable sound level. There's also a law which says what can be shown in a public and what can't. We live in a tolerant community and you must get over it.
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But then again, if I say that their appearance "sucks" would be less offensive?
Not-offensive would be saying that YOU find the way they dress sucky. Know the difference between the opinion and the fact. Get it right.
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A very specific group which you avoid to define and which includes a large part of population? What you say is not different than racism and xenophobia. "Women dressing sexy are not real girls" equals "Judes are not a real people". Sorry.
Well personally i dont think like that. I like sexy clothing,but only if a girl isn't abusing that.
If TheDeath thinks,like that, well, its just his opinion.
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A very specific group which you avoid to define and which includes a large part of population?
Does it matter if it's a large part or not? If a large part were junkies, would it make any difference in saying that drugs are bad?
Oh and if you think I haven't defined that group, then I must wonder why I waste so much typing in this thread.
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What you say is not different than racism and xenophobia. "Women dressing sexy are not real girls" equals "Judes are not a real people". Sorry.
Will you stop putting words in my mouth? I never said they aren't real people (aka humans). What the hell is the problem?
Saying "Blondes are ugly" isn't racism (against whites, because some of them have blonde hair naturally). It's just an opinion, of PERCEIVE value, just like people can say "small people suck" (not tall). Or when GAY people say "women are not attractive" is that SEXISM? LOL.
of course this isn't about blondes but what the hell, long live analogies
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There is a law which moderates the acceptable sound level. There's also a law which says what can be shown in a public and what can't. We live in a tolerant community and you must get over it.
Did I say that I don't have to obey the law? That's not even a point: aka "that must be right cause the law says so". But this ISN'T even about that.
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Not-offensive would be saying that YOU find the way they dress sucky. Know the difference between the opinion and the fact. Get it right.
So when some guy says "WoW sucks", you don't read that as an opinion? Why the hell don't you make fuss out of stuff like that either?
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posted December 30, 2008 06:26 PM |
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I don't really care about your mounth, but the claims you defend. I don't believe you really have so evil intentions, but instead of turning back, you go deeper in this crap. If that's not exactly your opinion, why are you getting so agressive 
Check how fast this thread evolved from easthetical discussion in the first post to insulting and attacking the people.
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when GAY people say "women are not attractive" is that SEXISM? LOL.
Tell girl she's not attractive and then -suprise!- I'm a gay. For sure it will be very funny.
Can't you really see it's all offensive?
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Why the hell don't you make fuss out of stuff like that either?
Because the language we use can be much more precise than what you present and much more dangerous than you think. Someone who is so respected should not throw strong words around as they were confetti.
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