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posted May 12, 2011 08:14 AM |
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Edited by shyranis at 08:20, 12 May 2011.
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That article was from in 2009, when the opposition was highest to the corporatist healthcare bill. The one that used all of the proposals Republicans always touted whenever faced with a Democrat instigating Universal Healthcare.
The Democrats are further right than the Conservative parties in most other countries. The only reason to percieve them as being a leftist party id because no such leftist party exists. If you want to see a real Leftist party, look at Canada. Our Center-right Conservative party just knocked the Centrist Liberal Party to third place since the country was founded. Fort the first time in recorded history as well, our Leftist party (the New Democratic Party) are the official opposition (second stongest party).
... at least the NDP crushed the far-left seperatist Bloc Quebecois down to 4 seats and made their leader of 15 years resign. And the Green Party (fiscal conservative, environmentally liberal, socially centrist) party also got their first seat ever.
But back to your country. Yes.
Look at all of the major policy decisions of the 2 only parties in your country. They run in complete parallel. Did you forget that George W Bush did a massive injection into the education system and medicare just before the 2004 election? And how about Obama, how easily did he give up on his lip service claims of ending the Patriot act, torture and letting the temporary tax breaks expire? (answer, actually pretty quickly)
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posted May 12, 2011 11:59 AM |
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Quote: Also left and right effectively don't exist with how well the two parties line up with what they actually do when they are in power. What's more, the Democrats aren't even a Leftist party. They are Center Right.
Take note. Memorize this. Remember it. Aren't these the people you have a problem with?
Oh, the dem party is the party America has a problem with.
No, the dem party is not a center right party. If they go any further left they will be communist. The democrat party will essentially be dead after the next Congressional election. They will lose the Presidency and the Senate. Americans simply will not tolerate being ruled by socialists.
Last time I checked the Democrats would the the part the most to the right on in Norwegian politics if they had gotten the chance to run for election.
The republicans would be an inch more to the right on the scale, but considering how far away they are from any parties with represenations and voters, they are more or less fascists parties per definition on Norway
Of course, there are more rightwing parties than that, but those parties are parties that under no circumstances get votes.
I would just love to see what happened if Red Election Alliance(Rød Valgallianse, the most leftwing party we have that get votes) suddenly ran in the American election. They would be more communist that anything you ever had, and the same applies to even FRP(Progress Party, gets 4-5% votes, if the most rightwing party of mainstream Norwegian elections), which would have been communist snows per definition.
So safe you profehy of doom, for the world is not doomed.
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posted May 12, 2011 06:00 PM |
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Edited by Elodin at 18:01, 12 May 2011.
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Two Americans have been arrested by New York City police for allegedly plotting to attack a synagogue in the New York area, Fox News has learned.
One source described the case as the latest example of “homegrown” radicalization. The two men were identified as Mohammad Mamdouh, of Moroccan descent, and Ahmed Serhani, of Algerian descent.
Serhani allegedly made a general statement about wanting to attack a synagogue –- though no specific synagogue was mentioned, according to initial information obtained by Fox News. With a history of drug dealing, Serhani was hoping to make enough money to purchase weapons and possibly explosives for the attack, one source said.
The plan, however, apparently never became operational, and the pair never acquired weapons for it, the source said.
Serhani and Mamdouh are now being charged under a New York State terrorism law. Federal authorities usually prosecute terrorism-related offenses, but they declined to do so in this case.
The New York Times and WNBC-TV report that the Manhattan District Attorney's Office plans to release further details about the men later Thursday.
New York City police have been on high alert for threats to the city since the U.S. raid that killed Al Qaeda leader Usama bin Laden over a week ago.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/05/12/men-arrested-alleged-terror-plot-new-york/#ixzz1M9dWkTcC
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posted May 12, 2011 06:08 PM |
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Edited by Elodin at 18:09, 12 May 2011.
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Quote: And how about Obama, how easily did he give up on his lip service claims of ending the Patriot act, torture and letting the temporary tax breaks expire? (answer, actually pretty quickly)
Liberals tend to be ignorant of the real world and live in lollypop land where a hug will turn a terrorist into a saint. When Obama got into office and became privy to the secret reports about terrorism, ect, it was an eye-opening experience for him. He learned hugs won't really turn a terrorist into a saint. He learned that information from torturing known terrorists has saved thousands of American lives. He knew if he was soft on terrorism and another major terrorist attack happened on US soil he would not have a snowball's chance in hell of being reelected.
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posted May 12, 2011 07:02 PM |
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Quote: Liberals tend to be ignorant of the real world and live in lollypop land where a hug will turn a terrorist into a saint. When Obama got into office and became privy to the secret reports about terrorism, ect, it was an eye-opening experience for him. He learned hugs won't really turn a terrorist into a saint. He learned that information from torturing known terrorists has saved thousands of American lives. He knew if he was soft on terrorism and another major terrorist attack happened on US soil he would not have a snowball's chance in hell of being reelected.
So you're basically agreeing with me in a roundabout way that when Democrats get into office they become the same as Republicans. Right?
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posted May 12, 2011 07:10 PM |
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So does that mean torture is ok against terrorism?
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posted May 12, 2011 07:45 PM |
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Quote: Liberals tend to be ignorant of the real world and live in lollypop land where a hug will turn a terrorist into a saint. When Obama got into office and became privy to the secret reports about terrorism, ect, it was an eye-opening experience for him. He learned hugs won't really turn a terrorist into a saint. He learned that information from torturing known terrorists has saved thousands of American lives. He knew if he was soft on terrorism and another major terrorist attack happened on US soil he would not have a snowball's chance in hell of being reelected.
because you think they would credible to terrorists by claiming they love them?
not that it would absolutely not work, but coming from some people, it smells way too much like hypocrisy.
Quote: He knew if he was soft on terrorism and another major terrorist attack happened on US soil he would not have a snowball's chance in hell of being reelected
I'm not sure it should be the primary concern of a president.
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posted May 12, 2011 07:54 PM |
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Quote: He knew if he was soft on terrorism and another major terrorist attack happened on US soil he would not have a snowball's chance in hell of being reelected
Tbh at that point the intel agencies should have been ALL disbanded for TOTAL and UTTER incompetence.
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posted May 13, 2011 12:18 AM |
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Quote: So does that mean torture is ok against terrorism?
Sure, as long as
-you love them
-the news said they're terrorists
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posted May 13, 2011 12:43 AM |
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Edited by smithey at 00:43, 13 May 2011.
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posted May 13, 2011 12:59 AM |
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$35?
For that kind of money I'd at least expect it to have a make-fun-of-Donald-Trump button.
Still, thumbs up.
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I read today that two former seals are now fighting over what actually happened and who did the shooting.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Osama_bin_Laden#Alternative_accounts
Which I find a bit ironic, because it'd have been way better had they captured their target, so he could be tried in court.. in this way, they're fighting over who "screwed up" the mission.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactions_to_the_death_of_Osama_bin_Laden#NGOs said: Since he was unarmed, they raised concerns that there was no attempt to capture him alive. While condemning bin Laden for crimes against humanity, Amnesty International stressed the importance of doing so in compliance with international law.
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posted November 07, 2014 06:18 PM |
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Lemme edit that and change their names to something goofy.
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