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master_learn
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walking to the library
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posted April 08, 2013 07:42 PM |
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The church have its official version of religion.
Every man with free will and a brain can compare many aspects of it with what he reads and see somewhere else and decide what he believes in.
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Ghost
Undefeatable Hero
Therefore I am
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posted April 08, 2013 08:47 PM |
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Right! Ea and Apollo are not God. They were poorly developed in God. God is one. Now you have a Bible on the Internet. Easy! You do not need their mother tongue teacher*, only one faith. When the priests had to translate, the ordination of women is absolutely correct. Evidence, perhaps means that you witness archaeological finds.
*English teacher etc
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Seraphim
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Knowledge Reaper
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posted April 08, 2013 10:07 PM |
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Edited by Seraphim at 22:18, 08 Apr 2013.
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all-powerful being should be able to HEAL all that.
Not at the price of your free will to NOT be healed.
If you don't want to be healed(understand take care of your health),the all-powerful being will not force you to be healthy.
Pff, nice logic there fella.
An ALL POWEFUL BEING can make you happy and live healthily without affecting free will.
Key word, all powerful means it can do ANYTHING imaginable. Impressive that rleigious folks dont even "Know" their god. How amusing.
I always enjoy the selective logic of people like you.
"God created man with free will" "God is almighty" and put men to the test of faith even though he should know the answer already.
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Either you are like elodin or just very bad at trolling because others have outdone you in so many lenghts.
Whatever, all I see from theists in this thread is pointless quoting of their favorite holybook, dodging facts with logical fallacies and more nonsense.
Its just annoying. Obviously, one cannot argue with someone else who speaks another language.
Eventhough we speak english, for you 1+1 = 4 and for others its 2.
Here is a thing, this thread is not about trolling, but then religion is like trolling.
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Salamandre
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Wog refugee
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posted April 08, 2013 10:19 PM |
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Ghost is the one ruling this thread. Incomprehensible, inn-attackable, defies any logic but can't be dismissed. Just perfect.
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Hobbit
Supreme Hero
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posted April 08, 2013 10:25 PM |
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Salamandre
Admirable
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Wog refugee
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posted April 08, 2013 10:29 PM |
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He is HC god, once he talks, no one has any argument against, ever. Just look, amazing.
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NoobX
Undefeatable Hero
Now, this is a paradox...
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posted April 08, 2013 10:46 PM |
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Edited by NoobX at 22:51, 08 Apr 2013.
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All I've been reading here is:
-God exists.
-Really? How?
-He created us and gave us free will.
-Cute, but that doesn't answer my question.
-*random Ghost's post, followed by a bunch of quotes from the Bible*
-I'm still waiting for my answer...
-Nonbelievers shall go to hell.
-What about the religious criminals?
-*yet another incomperhensible post from Ghost + a quote from the Bible*
etc.
So, what did we manage to learn?
Nothing.
@Elodin, if you really believe in God and you believe that the world was created a several thousand years ago, how do you explain the fact that scientist discovered fossils which are over a few million years old?
How do you explain evolution? Surely it makes more sense that the human being evolved to become better in every way than its ancestors, than the explaination that God created Adam and Eve and that the two managed to populate the whole world.
@Sal, that was a spot-on   Anyhow, you should really drop by the VW more often. It needs more witty people 
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Salamandre
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Wog refugee
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posted April 08, 2013 10:58 PM |
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NoobX
Undefeatable Hero
Now, this is a paradox...
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posted April 08, 2013 11:04 PM |
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Ack, you've got the point... Oh, well, how about the Tavern?
AND HERE'S A NEW QUESTION:
Why do you think your religion is the true one?
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gnomes2169
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Duke of the Glade
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posted April 08, 2013 11:25 PM |
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Nooby, Elodin does not believe in the "Young earth" idea. He also believes that evolution exists.  Maybe not that everything evolved from a simple organism, but he does recognize that things have changed since the beginning of the world.
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Yeah in the 18th century, two inventions suggested a method of measurement. One won and the other stayed in America.
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Seraphim
Supreme Hero
Knowledge Reaper
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posted April 09, 2013 04:04 AM |
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Edited by Seraphim at 04:17, 09 Apr 2013.
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Ok people. I believe in Jesus now and accept him as my savior. Thanks to Elodin ML and Drakon, I have communicated with god.
He did answer. He said that every christian that holds arms will end in up hell and that Orthodox christians and every other christain denomination are heretics and will end up in hell aswell for Eternity.
Every other religious group followers will end up in hell aswell for breaking the first commandment.
He said that the only true religion of the world is Mormonism.
I feel sorry for you people. May God have mercy on your soul in hell and may eternity not last forever for you.
I take no pity on you all because you made a choice not to believe in Mormonism.
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NoobX
Undefeatable Hero
Now, this is a paradox...
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posted April 09, 2013 06:51 AM |
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Nooby, Elodin does not believe in the "Young earth" idea. He also believes that evolution exists. Maybe not that everything evolved from a simple organism, but he does recognize that things have changed since the beginning of the world.
Wait, that's not quite the real Christianity then Well, this is interesting.
Btw, I'm saying that it's not the real Christianity because Christianity teaches about Adam being the first man and he was introduced on the sixth day of the world's creation as the Bible says, no? That proves that there was no evolution in the world and that every being you see today was made along with Adam.
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gnomes2169
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Duke of the Glade
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posted April 09, 2013 07:15 AM |
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You DO know that the word that is mistakenly translated as "Day" in genesis is actually supposed to be the Hebrew word for "Allotment of time," not an actual day right? In fact, the form it is presented in the bible means, "Undetermined allotment of time," so the Christians that proclaim that the earth and universe were created in seven days are actually doing so because of a translation error.  Elodin not believing in the "Young earth" idea is actually more accurate to the original judao/ christian understanding than the seven days fantasy. 
And yes, I am an atheist. I just pick these random factoids up because I'm exposed to them. ^_^ Oh! Also, Sampson only killed TEN men, not one hundred. Another mistranslation.
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Yeah in the 18th century, two inventions suggested a method of measurement. One won and the other stayed in America.
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Drakon-Deus
Undefeatable Hero
Qapla'
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posted April 09, 2013 07:23 AM |
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How could God create the world in literal 24 h days if in the beginning there was no sun to measure time by? Obviously the days are not meant to be taken literally.
@ Seraphim: Nice try, I'm not claiming my religion is the best or anything, but I've looked into Mormonism and Islam and found them to be as phony as a three-dollar bill.
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gnomes2169
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Duke of the Glade
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posted April 09, 2013 07:27 AM |
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How could God create the world in literal 24 h days if in the beginning there was no Earth and no sun to measure time by? Obviously the days are not meant to be taken literally.
And yet, there are a surprising number of people who do.  And it is them and smug, uninformed atheists that I like to use this little fact against~ ^_^
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Yeah in the 18th century, two inventions suggested a method of measurement. One won and the other stayed in America.
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NoobX
Undefeatable Hero
Now, this is a paradox...
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posted April 09, 2013 07:28 AM |
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Huh, that makes more sense, but it doesn't explain the insta-human spawning.
Btw, I have read the Bible only once and that was when I was a kid and believed in God. If I say something about it that isn't accurate, please have in mind that I can't recall how everything has been written.
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Drakon-Deus
Undefeatable Hero
Qapla'
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posted April 09, 2013 07:30 AM |
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Personally, I don't really care how much time it took for God to create the world, point is He did.
Do you know that there is such a thing as the flat earth society?
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gnomes2169
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Duke of the Glade
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posted April 09, 2013 07:34 AM |
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Do you know that there is such a thing as the flat earth society?
YES! It's HILARIOUS! ... And off topic... BUT HILARIOUS! XD
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Yeah in the 18th century, two inventions suggested a method of measurement. One won and the other stayed in America.
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artu
Promising
Undefeatable Hero
My BS sensor is tingling again
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posted April 09, 2013 07:35 AM |
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Edited by artu at 07:38, 09 Apr 2013.
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@gnomes
Since I cant speak Hebrew I won't proclaim anything but a lot of those discovered "translation errors" seems like PR and a way to gently adapt the scriptures to our age. I mean think of it, The Genesis becomes a pretty weird text when you take out day and fill in undetermined allotment of time.
When you read the holy books (both Bible and Quran), Occham's Razor suggests that they are indeed filled with factual mistakes of the times they were written in and not some mistaken translation that contains timeless information. Which is only natural and would be nothing to be ashamed of if some people wouldn't hopelessly insist they are flawless and timeless.
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Drakon-Deus
Undefeatable Hero
Qapla'
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posted April 09, 2013 07:38 AM |
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Ok, another way to look at it. Supposing God exists and He gave Moses the information. Would God really need to go in detail about how the world came to be or would He want to give them the basic idea?
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